Sherri: I really don't think that we are bipolar. I think we seem bipolar because the AD is making us feel that way....plus the moody Others that present. We really don't have sleepless nights, psychosis, mania,...

I've been reading about AD inducing bipolar...is it really bipolar? I think they're even trying to make it Bipolar 4,5, or 6 or something.

It sux that to take a pill, I have got to take another pill to take that pill....there is something wrong with that. Damn the pharm. We just went in for slight depression!

Ultra rapid cycling.... Sounds like an allergic reaction in me- I've never been like that before the AD.

Soooooo, I got a 30 day pill box and started the weaning process, all slowly like. The only way to know is to just quit taking all these pills.

I'm just wondering and hoping that these meds haven't made me dependant on them like inducing bipolar and now I'm stuck like that. Idk.

We shall soon see.

[Icare dixit]

You might have BP-V, better known as normalcy, BP-wise.

Don't use boy-cried-wolf meds like these longterm even if you are lucky not to become manic, I'd say.

However, there is an underlying vulnerability for psychosis, every way you look at it: most people on antidepressants don't get manic, just dependent and unable to develop better coping skills (again, if use is longterm).

All I know is, if I want to go from 0 to manic in less than 24 hours, certain ad's are a sure thing almost 100% of the time.

I used to wonder if Paxil caused my first manic episode, but I'm now certain I can put that theory to rest. I had my first manic episode 4 years before ever being medicated in any way.

No matter how you acquire this illness, it sure does suck donkey balls.

[Melmo]

Originally Posted by ElsaMars

All I know is, if I want to go from 0 to manic in less than 24 hours, certain ad's are a sure thing almost 100% of the time.

I used to wonder if Paxil caused my first manic episode, but I'm now certain I can put that theory to rest. I had my first manic episode 4 years before ever being medicated in any way.

No matter how you acquire this illness, it sure does suck donkey balls.

I love your username

[Miss Laura]

I can't take anti depressants as they send me into hypo or worse mania. I have to ride the depression out on my own which is hard

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[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by Miss Laura

I can't take anti depressants as they send me into hypo or worse mania. I have to ride the depression out on my own which is hard

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But it makes you stronger (again, not saying those that do use it are weak). Better equipped.

[Miss Laura]

True.... but sometimes you wish there was a pill I could take to even ease the sadness/suicidal thoughts

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I lived this long without meds...ain't planning on dieing anytime yet.

[Melmo]

I have heard that anti depressants take weeks to take effect...can they cause mania as fast as 1 day?

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by Melmo

I have heard that anti depressants take weeks to take effect...can they cause mania as fast as 1 day?

Not from experience, but apparently the effect is strongest when you start taking them, but is rather paradoxical: no fun, no relief, for no-one, BP or not. That would make sense. It needs some time to be really effective.

So, yes, it could be. But again, no experience with it myself.

[Melmo]

Just wondering because I took my first dose of Effexor this morning and tonight I got a burst of energy, did a bunch of cleaning and now I still feel hyper, sitting at my laptop and can't stop moving.

[Wander]

Originally Posted by Melmo

I have heard that anti depressants take weeks to take effect...can they cause mania as fast as 1 day?

When starting an AD I go hypomanic within 24 hours. It is weird as the anti-depressant effect doesn't kick in for a few weeks for most people. With my i need to be on the lowest dose of AD to prevent mania and ease the depression.

Day one of Wellbutrin, can have me feeling the beginnings of hypo the very next day. Yes! Stay on it a week, and I might as well be doing lines of Coke all day long. No joke. For me, mania feels very similar to using stimulants. (I've experienced several stimulants which have this effect). Right now I'm hypo (for about a week). I'm not taking meds, no caffeine or anything, and I feel VERY stimulated. I'm sensitive to meds, but I doubt I'm the only one whose experienced this? I've taken it several times to test the theory.

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by ElsaMars

Day one of Wellbutrin, can have me feeling the beginnings of hypo the very next day. Yes! Stay on it a week, and I might as well be doing lines of Coke all day long. No joke. For me, mania feels very similar to using stimulants. (I've experienced several stimulants which have this effect). Right now I'm hypo (for about a week). I'm not taking meds, no caffeine or anything, and I feel VERY stimulated. I'm sensitive to meds, but I doubt I'm the only one whose experienced this? I've taken it several times to test the theory.

Just keep taking it, you know you want to!

ACAB.

If I could reliably fall into good positive hypo, I actually would! And I'm not opposed to taking it PRN if things get bad. (Under supervision). But unfortunately it sent me into dysphoric mania so I definitely need to take procausions.

[Tucson]

Originally Posted by ElsaMars

If I could reliably fall into good positive hypo, I actually would! And I'm not opposed to taking it PRN if things get bad. (Under supervision). But unfortunately it sent me into dysphoric mania so I definitely need to take procausions.

If we can only control our moods. That would be so nice! But we cannot. Can we? I have found that ADs do not cause mania with me, even the potent combination of Fluoxetine and Bupropion. My doc tells me that it does not induce mania in most people with BP this way. It is unfortunate that this is not the case for everyone else. Such a powerful tool in the fight against depression. The problem with me is the marginal therapeutic effect that it does provide for me.

By the way, I do like your nickname!

Originally Posted by Melmo

I have heard that anti depressants take weeks to take effect...can they cause mania as fast as 1 day?

Hell yeah.

Thanks for liking the nickname . I was hoping at least a few people would recognize it. It's not the most popular season after all. I don't really relate to the character in a real world way. I just found her facinating, complex and of course SUPREMELY acted (season 3 pun attended)

I'm sorry the ad's don't work for you . I have that problem with mood stabilizers and controlling mania without causing a rock bottom depression. But at least I do have 2 ad's I can turn to (with supervision) if things get bad. Problem is, I can't take them long and need to be very careful because agitated depression is much more serious in my case than my nearly catatonic depressions. And if I take them together, they don't seem to work together and cancel each other out. I cycle as usual (((Hugs to you))))

[neverending]

Actually I had been fairly stable 3 to 4 months through fall n early winter on very low dose paxil n quitiapine. However I was running on the hypomanic side so my pdoc took me off the paxil n I went into depression. After s few weeks of it getting worse he put me back on the paxil n it took about a month to kick in. However even increasing my quitiapine I have been rapid cycling every 3 to 4 days n now I guess I m mixed because I m very upset, depressed, n agitated. My pdoc called yesterday to tell me olanzepene was approved for me n is in the mail. I m terrified to try it. I don't want to feel sick on it.

I wish I had NEVER gone off the paxil. I was doing well. Now I can't seem to do well again. I am very upset and right now feel hopeless n frightened. I m so tired of this. So VERY VERY VERY tired. Su.

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by neverending

Actually I had been fairly stable 3 to 4 months through fall n early winter on very low dose paxil n quitiapine. However I was running on the hypomanic side so my pdoc took me off the paxil n I went into depression. After s few weeks of it getting worse he put me back on the paxil n it took about a month to kick in. However even increasing my quitiapine I have been rapid cycling every 3 to 4 days n now I guess I m mixed because I m very upset, depressed, n agitated. My pdoc called yesterday to tell me olanzepene was approved for me n is in the mail. I m terrified to try it. I don't want to feel sick on it.

I wish I had NEVER gone off the paxil. I was doing well. Now I can't seem to do well again. I am very upset and right now feel hopeless n frightened. I m so tired of this. So VERY VERY VERY tired. Su.

Do you use any mood stabiliser? Olanzapine is not very different from quetiapine: mostly just less tiring, less antihistaminic, and it stays in your system longer.