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Old Mar 26, 2016, 06:29 AM
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I'm still unsure how to answer. Take for instance the question about the importance of music. While manic, I've experienced being "one with the music". I can remember thinking "the world would be a better place it it focused more on music an art and love! Other times during mania I can care less about music entirely. Even stable.... Sometimes I love and am really into my music, while others I go long periods without any interest. Even in depression, sometimes i could care less and sometimes the songs speak to me and add to my sadness, yet I cannot stop listening.

I would have a similar problem with a few of the other questions.
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 06:51 AM
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I'm still unsure how to answer. Take for instance the question about the importance of music. While manic, I've experienced being "one with the music". I can remember thinking "the world would be a better place it it focused more on music an art and love! Other times during mania I can care less about music entirely. Even stable.... Sometimes I love and am really into my music, while others I go long periods without any interest. Even in depression, sometimes i could care less and sometimes the songs speak to me and add to my sadness, yet I cannot stop listening.

I would have a similar problem with a few of the other questions.
In such cases, use an average. I tend to think a maximum is gonna give more consistent results, but that's like cheating.

So, an average.
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 07:43 AM
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Icare_7) how easily are you distracted by things in your surroundings?
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 08:40 AM
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How to answer?
A stepwise procedure for answering and conditions or context:

Conditions:
- answer the questions from your experience without reference to periods of depression, unusually high anxiety or psychosis (including mania, if applicable) and not with reference to unusual outside circumstances;
- if your answer would be highly variable over time, even after considering the first condition, give an average/mean of all the scores/answers you could give, given your entire life thus far.

Steps to come to a score for each of the answers:
- start with 0 1 as your score;
- iff (only if) a question describes something that is more true for you than for most others, as far as you can tell, add 4 to your score;
- iff a question describes something that you find characteristic for you, add 2.
- iff a question describes something that you find more characteristic for you than most other characteristics you have, add 1.

If you feel you should deviate from this procedure to give a better, still more honest, answer, do so.
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 08:42 AM
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Icare_8) how easily are you distracted by new ideas?
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 08:58 AM
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How to predict?

Conditions:
- all conditions previously mentioned apply;
- you predict what most other people with the same symptoms/syndrome/diagnosis as you would most likely answer, taking an average, as good as you can.

You may use the stepwise procedure for answering the questions for yourself, but applied not to yourself but to most of those that share your symptoms/syndrome, on average, as good as you can predict.
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 09:31 AM
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Icare_9) how easily are you distracted by unwanted thoughts?
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 10:23 AM
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Icare_10) how normal would you consider yourself?
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 10:29 AM
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That's it!

I will post some (clear) instructions about the prediction of correlations in a few hours.

Predictions can be posted from 4 pm (GMT/UTC; about 30 minutes from now) today for 24 hours. Right at the end of it you may immediately post your own answers. Of course, fairness and honesty/usefulness would dictate you either don't read any posts in this thread before posting your own answers or you post them exactly at that time.
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 02:03 PM
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How to predict correlations?
There many correlations possible (90 45), so you may just predict some. I will give you a weighed score based on the strength of the correlation (don't mind the statistics). The normal strength will get you 8 points. Weak correlations will mean less points, stronger more points.

For any correlation you want to describe, please use the following notation:

[Q] -> [Q], for a normal/positive correlation (if the one answer is an high number, it is likely that the other is high as well).

[Q] -< [Q], for an inverse/negative correlation (if the one has a high number, the other likely has a low number and vice versa).

[Q] >-< [Q], for no correlation (a "pure chance" that the one is similar or dissimilar to the other; purely random).

Where [Q] is something like Name_4 or Icare_7.

Answer notation
Please use something like the following to describe your answer:
QuestionnaireId_2: 6
QuestionnaireId_3: 3


The order of your answers matters not.


Interested to see your predictions! I will post mine later today. You still have more than 12 hours at least (too lazy for such arithmetic).

Edit:
I mixed up causation and correlation there, giving the maximum number. Is that (imprecision; makeshift thinking) typical for BP and especially not ASD? Maybe.
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Old Mar 26, 2016, 03:27 PM
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Because you messed up and entangled this thread (you know who you are!; look how tidy the ASD version is kept!) I will make a new thread for the predictions and one for your own, personal answers.

Obviously just kidding. Thanks for the questions.

If you don't want to take part in the prediction round but just want to give your own answers, please do.

You may after these two rounds post questions of your own in this thread (or before that time). Please number your questions and prefix your name to the numbers. The aim and rationale for this, aside from the game aspect, though it could help, is in the predictions thread. Just click on the link at the first word predictions in this post. Similarly, click on answers to find the thread for those.
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Still trying to figure this one out.
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