[Icare dixit]

What is your political persuasion? Do you consider yourself left wing, moderate or right wing on the political spectrum? Or do you believe in some kind of synthesis of the two extremes? Do you care about politics?

Do you think BP predisposes someone to be of a certain persuasion or vice versa?

[Jan1755]

I care way too much and constantly change my voter registration. I have learned to back off and am mostly to the left. Too much politics is a bad thing for me

[fishin fool]

I am an independent. I could not live with myself if I said I was a diehard
member of either one of our treasonous political parties.
I tend to be quite liberal and I am proud of it.
Politicians and major corps. have sold us all out with their over the top
greed and IMHO should all be held accountable for their treason.
I do not believe bipolar plays any roll in how I vote or how I feel about
politics. I lean left I believe in very little that the right wing preaches.
Though like I said claiming to be a member of either party in this day
and age is something I cannot comprehend.
I am stunned at how little compassion so many people have these days.

[fishin fool]

It just hit me that bipolar may play a roll after all in how I vote.
I could never vote republican because they are IMHO the greater
of the evils. The democratic party is evil as well but it seems the
republicans want to cut everything they can that is important to
millions of Americans to survive. Every social program that helps
our fellow Americans they would do away with and continue to lie
and say it is for the greater good. Total BULLSHIP.
So maybe Bipolar does have some effect on how I vote after all.

[venusss]

Pro-western and liberal. Pirate Party is closest to my world view.

[ComfortablyNumb5]

I'm in no way a follower of politics, BP or not. Just really hope trump doesn't win lol

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I'm in the middle, honestly. For president, I tend to pick the candidate who seems most presidential. Yes, political views are important, but if the person shows no leadership skills, then I can't vote for them.

Oh, I'll just leave this here: Hard choices - Imgur

[pirilin]

More often than not, the good candidates don't even show. It all about money and political apparatus. None of the two frontrunners will get my vote.

[otherg]

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

What is your political persuasion? Do you consider yourself left wing, moderate or right wing on the political spectrum? Or do you believe in some kind of synthesis of the two extremes? Do you care about politics?

Do you think BP predisposes someone to be of a certain persuasion or vice versa?

I consider myself independent and left leaning. There is so much more the wealthy and big corporations could do to lift up the poor and disadvantaged. Not sure whether the DX of bipolar influences political views one way or the other. I am interested in politics but it is a messy business.

[scatterbrained04]

I don't get too involved in politics. I'm pretty middle of the road. I've voted for both parties. This presidential election is a joke though. I can't stand to see either front runner get elected.

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[BipolaRNurse]

I am a political animal. It's always been interesting to me, ever since I was a kid. I am a registered Republican and was proud of it until this presidential race. Now I'm embarrassed for my party. I will write someone in this year as a protest because I cannot in any good conscience vote for either of the two frontrunners. Hillary scares me. Trump scares me even more. (I'm not worried about Sanders because he doesn't really have a chance and I wouldn't vote for a socialist anyway.) And no, I don't think bipolar makes a difference in how people vote, although I can see there are a lot more left-leaning folks here. JMHO.

I lean to the far left. I don't believe my mental health issues play a role in the party which resonates with me. I chose the party after much education and thought. As I hope all voters do.

How much I care, and obsess over politics is definitely affected by my moods. I'm pretty hypo right now so I need to be very careful about how obsessed I become with politics. This election is down right terrifying. I probably shouldn't elaborate or I will get myself worked up.

[Icare dixit]

I like Dylan and Lennon and think changing society can help those deemed mentally ill to feel mentally free and not just the mentally "ill" but everyone.

I think the term used in the US is "communist" (with the exception of some parts of course). In much of the rest of the world it would be moderately left-leaning. In some other parts definitely leftist. Nowadays that is pretty conservative, but I hope with some creative de(con)struction. I prefer the term politically active (as opposed to laissez-fair or some conservative, we're not gonna change anything: passive).

I am a theorist: I like to synthesise opposing views. Many of the left, many of the right. But I think that is in itself left-wing behaviour (or just marxist, whatever).

I like to think many with psychotic disorders are theorists by nature. Whether they call that left-wing is less relevant.

Third way liberals (like the Democrats in the US) are in many ways worse than "true" right-wing parties. In the US, I might vote Republican. I might even vote for Trump, hoping to blow up the current system once and for all.

I highly doubt we have an ounce to say when it comes to financial change. Big business and old money work hand and hand with politics. No matter who is elected, they are still pulling the strings.

I see the elections as nothing more than a strategy used to test the social climate. Social progress is inevitable. The higher ups know this. But it must be done slowly, to prevent uprising (or too large an uprising)

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by ElsaMars

I highly doubt we have an ounce to say when it comes to financial change. Big business and old money work hand and hand with politics. No matter who is elected, they are still pulling the strings.

I see the elections as nothing more than a strategy used to test the social climate. Social progress is inevitable. The higher ups know this. But it must be done slowly, to prevent uprising (or too large an uprising)

I think you're pretty much correct, but less centralised and/or smaller and/or less corrupt countries really can be democratic: one man, one vote, financially viable without big business sponsorship.

This is one of the reasons, sorry venusss , I really am fiercely opposed to the EU. Not that I think Russia has any business annexing other countries. Though I don't care much about borders, but let people free to choose as they please.

[Icare dixit]

Is it fair to say not believing in the current political system is something of the left of the political spectrum? Or is it that you don't believe in a "big government", which would mostly be right-wing?

I like to think there is a correlation (given anti-status-quo and pro-care "left-wing" versus pro-independence or principled-conservative "right-wing") between BP and one's political persuasion, but it isn't strong in the traditional sense because we want both freedom and care. So too each other negating factors in what is traditionally seen as one-dimensional: left or right.

I think finding freedom important is caused by what makes you BP and having BP makes you find good (state/institutionalised but also (non-institutionalised) solidarity) care important.

Basically, we know better than to simplify. Generally, I think, that makes our mind so messy. But we may rationalise that mess and point out some paradoxical new way to go for politics/society.

Just thinking out loud. And being optimistic that politics will get us to a better future, among many other things.

[wiretwister]

I just yell at both of them on the tv ... all politicans are worthless by their very definition ... the last stateman's this country ever had was Henry Clay in the 1850's ... money grubber self serving thiefs since then ... of course I have no real strong opinions either way .... Tigger

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by wiretwister

I just yell at both of them on the tv ... all politicans are worthless by their very definition ... the last stateman's this country ever had was Henry Clay in the 1850's ... money grubber self serving thiefs since then ... of course I have no real strong opinions either way .... Tigger

Yes, I remember him. Fascinating man.

What about Franklin D. Roosevelt, maybe?

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

What is your political persuasion? ...Do you think BP predisposes someone to be of a certain persuasion or vice versa?

I don't know that it would necessarily predispose someone to any particular leaning. There are a lot of issues that play into these things.

That said, I've believed the same since long before I knew I had BP. And part of that is wanting no part of those who villianize and attack the most vulnerable in society. It's just plain wrong. At the very least one should reflect on the reality that is expressed in the saying, "There but for the grace of God go I".

Never well-to-do, but it was a moral belief, not a self-interest one. But times have changed (and yes, in this BP has played a significant role), and it has become both. It is a delusion to believe that hard work is a guarantee of being saved from need. Things happen. That is hell enough without being judged and villianized because of it.

No one's really on our side. I don't kid myself. Politics are politics. Least judgemental is the best I can hope for.

[Icare dixit]

I agree there is probably not one actively pro-BO/SZ-care party (they don't have to stop there, but we are really among the most vulnerable in more stable/wealthy societies/countries). Not enough voters.

Tragic.

Edit:
And I see being accepted really as freedom more than care.

I believe that not having faith in the current political system is a human thing, and crosses all party lines. I'm not pro small government. We just need to make huge changes to ensure that government is actually working and doing the important jobs. Things need a complete overhaul in functionality.

Someday, when I'm finally Supreme Ruler of the planet earth, you will see more of my ideas in action

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by ElsaMars

I believe that not having faith in the current political system is a human thing, and crosses all party lines. I'm not pro small government. We just need to make huge changes to ensure that government is actually working and doing the important jobs. Things need a complete overhaul in functionality.

Someday, when I'm finally Supreme Ruler of the planet earth, you will see more of my ideas in action

If left-wing (still) means anything, it means opposed to the way politics is done: just a way of co-opting the commoners to support the status quo, which they never do. It is like an endless cycle. I'd say progress.

Funny you should mention it: I was made Supreme Ruler only one mania ago and you know the term is for a lifetime, right?

[wiretwister]

Originally Posted by Icare dixit

What about Franklin D. Roosevelt, maybe?

fascist ...

[Icare dixit]

Originally Posted by wiretwister

fascist ...

Was he really?

Edit:
It's not as if he helped much when "England won the war". And talking about big government... Big Society, that's what we need!

Doesn't beat a true BP statesman.

[Icare dixit]

There is an upside to the EU and the US, of course.

Brain and skill drains cause wages to be so low it forces people to start their own businesses and be more creative. More knowledge sharing (less to remember). Good for those with BP.

We will inherit the present and future.