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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 10:59 AM
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Do you ever fear rejection?

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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:00 AM
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I used to... then I actually got rejected

Now I have no one to reject me. So nope, I don't fear rejection
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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:04 AM
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I used to... then I actually got rejected

Now I have no one to reject me. So nope, I don't fear rejection
There's always someone to reject you, you poor soul! What about at work?

Let me help you fear rejection.

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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:08 AM
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Idk the lady in the cubicle next to me is having a relationship with the Guatemalan cleaning lady. Yesterday they were putting grapes in each other's mouths in a sexual way, then giggling about it... even though the cleaning lady regularly sticks her hands in the toilet (cos that's her job)

I don't fear rejection from her. In fact, I would encourage it.

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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:21 AM
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And yesss, before anyone says it, I'm Hispanic/Latino, so I can make fun of my own people

I'm not Guatemalan tho. My dad's half sister's cousin is tho
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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:34 AM
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And yesss, before anyone says it, I'm Hispanic/Latino, so I can make fun of my own people

I'm not Guatemalan tho. My dad's half sister's cousin is tho
But you're not a cleaning lady. You make fun of cleaning ladies.

I reject your claim to righteousness.

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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:38 AM
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But you're not a cleaning lady. You make fun of cleaning ladies.

I reject your claim to righteousness.
I will become a cleaning lady then

Let me come over and scrub the sh*t stains off your toilets
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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:44 AM
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Do you ever fear rejection?
Related to this, I noticed that I get upset a lot fearing public embarrassment, e.g. through rejection/failure (probably more failure than rejection). Messing up on my own is fine, but my perfectionism and fear about public embarrassment seems to be the biggest thing I don't manage well... probably not what you meant though.

Been meaning to get CBT for it, not sure if DBT or something else would also be good for that.

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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:49 AM
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I will become a cleaning lady then

Let me come over and scrub the sh*t stains off your toilets
Maybe not too long from now (and I hope someone reads this and makes one) a computer will clean your toilet. Maybe you can write the software. You could be both a software engineer and cleaning lady.

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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 11:54 AM
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Related to this, I noticed that I get upset a lot fearing public embarrassment, e.g. through rejection/failure (probably more failure than rejection). Messing up on my own is fine, but my perfectionism and fear about public embarrassment seems to be the biggest thing I don't manage well... probably not what you meant though.

Been meaning to get CBT for it, not sure if DBT or something else would also be good for that.
It's not what I myself experience, not exactly, it's not so much public embarrassment for me, but it would be what I mean: it's certainly a fear of rejection, I'd say.

I really hope DBT would work for that. I'm waiting for a new (and first) appointment with a new therapist and we'll see whether I could join a DBT group maybe.

CBT might work. But I'm pretty good at dispelling crazy beliefs (obviously only when not psychotic). It's just impulsivity together with such beliefs which are the biggest problem, but CBT is rather too slow for that. But together with DBT maybe.

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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 12:25 PM
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I don't fear rejection. Is that weird? Maybe it's because I'm rejected all the time.

And I'm close enough to a cleaning lady. Don't knock cleaning ladies. I like dangling grapes into the mouths of clackers aka office people. lol

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I don't fear rejection. Is that weird? Maybe it's because I'm rejected all the time.

And I'm close enough to a cleaning lady. Don't knock cleaning ladies. I like dangling grapes into the mouths of clackers aka office people. lol
So that's what office people are good for!? Finally some answers.

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Maybe not too long from now (and I hope someone reads this and makes one) a computer will clean your toilet. Maybe you can write the software. You could be both a software engineer and cleaning lady.
I think that would piss off a lot of cleaning ladies.

Then my fellow latino friends will get deported because we don't have any jobs

I have to stick up for my people
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I don't fear rejection. Is that weird? Maybe it's because I'm rejected all the time.

And I'm close enough to a cleaning lady. Don't knock cleaning ladies. I like dangling grapes into the mouths of clackers aka office people. lol
well you can dangle grapes in front of weirdo's mouth

just be careful of her bucket hat and gangster bandana... those might get in the way
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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 12:33 PM
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I think that would piss off a lot of cleaning ladies.

Then my fellow latino friends will get deported because we don't have any jobs

I have to stick up for my people
That's rubbish. They just need to learn to write software or maybe teach Spanish or do scientific research or anything useful that is never enough.

People writing software earn way too much, so it's fine if more people do it. It's the new manual labour.

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Idk. Donald Trump wants to get rid of my friends... The struggle is real.

I think if my people had the choice between going to school and joining a cartel, they would choose the cartel.
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Default Jun 02, 2016 at 12:47 PM
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blue - It's alright. I'll use the biggest grape vine I can find.

She wears a bandana too?

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blue - It's alright. I'll use the biggest grape vine I can find.

She wears a bandana too?
Yeah sometimes she covers her face with it when she's typing at the computer (idk maybe her farts are really stinky?), but today she's not wearing one

She must've used some Tums to get rid of that excess gas

Edit: I should have clarified... She wears the bandana around her neck. She has a mowhawk that's not gelled up, and the mowhawk is under her bucket hat
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Idk. Donald Trump wants to get rid of my friends... The struggle is real.

I think if my people had the choice between going to school and joining a cartel, they would choose the cartel.
I don't believe that for a second. If the school is any good and if there's no discrimination based on ethnicity.

That kind of thing really doesn't help. Racism is racism, regardless of whether you talk about your own "race" with pride or with scorn.

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I don't believe that for a second. If the school is any good and if there's no discrimination based on ethnicity.

That kind of thing really doesn't help. Racism is racism, regardless of whether you talk about your own "race" with pride or with scorn.
Nah, for real... You have to look at the facts. Hispanics are a minority and most of them don't go to college. In many countries in Centeal and South America, the cartel is far more lucrative than getting an education and getting a normal job.

The Hispanics who flee Central and South America are often trying to flee the crime in hopes of achieving the American Dream. Most of the education down there is relatively poor, and a lot of them don't speak English, which makes it nearly impossible to get a decent job in the US unless they have the money to learn English.

So f given the option to choose an English education or join the cartel, they will probably join the cartel because it's easier and more lucrative unless they can somehow immigrate to the US legally, but that's very difficult. Usually you need a job and someone to sponsor your visa... and well, how are you going to get a job without an English education? It's going to be incredibly difficult

The other thing is, the cartel is a very scary thing for most. Having the protection of the cartel is something that might be very useful. So yeah, when it comes to cartel vs education, probably cartel. It's not racist; it's fact
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