Home Menu

Menu


Reply
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 10:27 AM
Anonymous35014
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
So a lot of us have comorbid anxiety disorders. I see a lot of bipolar+GAD or bipolar+OCD. However, I'm talking about GAD in specific, not OCD.

Anyway...

Although mood episodes can have a profound effect on our anxiety levels and the types of anxieties we experience, I wonder if chronic anxiety is actually a symptom of bipolar rather than a separate disorder. Know what I'm saying?

I'm suggesting: GAD could be a specifier of bipolar, not an actual diagnosis. For example: "Bipolar I w/ psychosis" is a real thing. So why not "Bipolar I w/ psychosis and general anxiety?"
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123, xRavenx

advertisement
  #2  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 10:41 AM
wildflowerchild25's Avatar
wildflowerchild25 wildflowerchild25 is offline
Elder
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,434
There's a lot of people who have GAD but don't have BP.
__________________
Of course it is happening inside your head. But why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
-Albus Dumbledore

That’s life. If nothing else, that is life. It’s real. Sometimes it
f—-ing hurts. But it’s sort of all we have.
-Garden State
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
  #3  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 10:44 AM
Anonymous35014
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Quote:
Originally Posted by wildflowerchild25 View Post
There's a lot of people who have GAD but don't have BP.
Yes, that is true, but there are a lot of people who has psychosis (psychotic disorder or schizophrenia) but don't have BP either, even though there is a psychosis specifier for BP.. I guess that's what I'mg getting at. Sorry for poor explanation.
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
  #4  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 10:55 AM
wildflowerchild25's Avatar
wildflowerchild25 wildflowerchild25 is offline
Elder
 
Member Since: Mar 2013
Location: NJ
Posts: 6,434
Ah ok I see what you're saying.
__________________
Of course it is happening inside your head. But why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
-Albus Dumbledore

That’s life. If nothing else, that is life. It’s real. Sometimes it
f—-ing hurts. But it’s sort of all we have.
-Garden State
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
  #5  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 11:25 AM
99fairies 99fairies is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Sep 2015
Location: Alberta canada
Posts: 1,834
I was diagnosed with GAD years before I was diagnosed with bipolar. But now it's part of my label.
__________________
Bipolar 1
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
Thanks for this!
Phoenix_1
  #6  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 12:05 PM
Shazerac's Avatar
Shazerac Shazerac is offline
Grand Magnate
 
Member Since: May 2015
Location: earth
Posts: 3,029
Anxiety can be a separate disorder or it could be part of the bipolar spectrum.... it's hard to say. Diagnosis of mental disorders is not as cut and dried as it used to be.
__________________


Eat a live frog for breakfast every morning and nothing worse can happen to you that day!

"Ask yourself whether the dream of heaven and greatness should be left waiting for us in our graves - or whether it should be ours here and now and on this earth.” Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged

Bipolar type 2 rapid cycling DX 2013 -
Seroquel 100
Celexa 20 mg
Xanax .5 mg prn
Modafanil 100 mg

Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
Thanks for this!
*Laurie*
  #7  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 12:38 PM
RainyDay107's Avatar
RainyDay107 RainyDay107 is offline
Grand Member
 
Member Since: Feb 2017
Location: M
Posts: 989
I was separately diagnosed with GAD (among other anxiety disorders) after being diagnosed with bipolar disorder.
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
  #8  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 03:44 PM
bioChE's Avatar
bioChE bioChE is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Aug 2016
Location: New York
Posts: 2,075
I was diagnosed with GAD many years before I was diagnosed with BP.
__________________
Meds: Latuda, Lamictal XR, Vyvanse, Seroquel, Klonopin

Supplements: Monster Energy replacement. Also DLPA, tyrosine, glutamine, and tryptophan
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
Thanks for this!
99fairies
  #9  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 06:11 PM
xRavenx's Avatar
xRavenx xRavenx is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Jun 2016
Location: U.S.
Posts: 2,586
It's tricky, because most people I seem to know with Bipolar struggle with some form of anxiety, and it's not uncommon for the anxiety to be severe. However, GAD has its whole set of criteria. You can be diagnosed with both or just one or the other. I've been tested for GAD back in High School, and at the time I met most of the criteria. Later on, a psychiatrist told me that my anxiety (and sometimes paranoid ideation) is secondary to the Bipolar, or as a result of having the disorder. So it gets quite complicated!!
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
  #10  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 07:34 PM
Unrigged64072835 Unrigged64072835 is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Oct 2010
Location: Under the noise floor
Posts: 18,579
I was diagnosed with GAD and depression before being diagnosed with bipolar.
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
  #11  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 07:38 PM
1978dd's Avatar
1978dd 1978dd is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jan 2017
Location: Midwest
Posts: 144
Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebicycle View Post
So a lot of us have comorbid anxiety disorders. I see a lot of bipolar+GAD or bipolar+OCD. However, I'm talking about GAD in specific, not OCD.

Anyway...

Although mood episodes can have a profound effect on our anxiety levels and the types of anxieties we experience, I wonder if chronic anxiety is actually a symptom of bipolar rather than a separate disorder. Know what I'm saying?

I'm suggesting: GAD could be a specifier of bipolar, not an actual diagnosis. For example: "Bipolar I w/ psychosis" is a real thing. So why not "Bipolar I w/ psychosis and general anxiety?"


Because GAD has its own specific criteria. Anxiety seems common in people with depression and bipolar disorder.
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
  #12  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 07:40 PM
99fairies 99fairies is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Sep 2015
Location: Alberta canada
Posts: 1,834
My therapist thinks bipolar should be called tripolar...depression mania and anxiety.
__________________
Bipolar 1
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
Thanks for this!
xRavenx
  #13  
Old Sep 09, 2017, 08:39 PM
Travelinglady's Avatar
Travelinglady Travelinglady is offline
Legendary Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Sep 2010
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 49,212
I've been diagnosed with both, but I think bipolar could make anxiety worse.
Hugs from:
bizi, Sunflower123
  #14  
Old Sep 10, 2017, 07:03 AM
WildcatVet's Avatar
WildcatVet WildcatVet is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Sep 2017
Location: Rural New York
Posts: 632
I'm sure there's a great deal of overlap too. Just as a diabetic may have cardiac disease or a MS patient may have an immune disorder. I don't think GAD is necessarily a symptom of BP although many BP patients experience anxiety disorders too.
Hugs from:
Sunflower123
  #15  
Old Sep 10, 2017, 07:44 AM
Sunflower123's Avatar
Sunflower123 Sunflower123 is offline
Legendary Wise Elder
 
Member Since: Jan 2015
Location: USA
Posts: 26,579
I agree there is a great deal of overlap. My GAD was diagnosed separately as well. It is complicated. I've never thought about it. Great thread.
Thanks for this!
99fairies
  #16  
Old Sep 10, 2017, 08:30 AM
liveforsummer liveforsummer is offline
Grand Poohbah
 
Member Since: Jun 2017
Location: Home
Posts: 1,642
Quote:
Originally Posted by 99fairies View Post
My therapist thinks bipolar should be called tripolar...depression mania and anxiety.
Certainly true for me too. Just wondering, do any of our BP friends actually NOT suffer from anxiety as well?
  #17  
Old Sep 10, 2017, 08:35 AM
scatterbrained04's Avatar
scatterbrained04 scatterbrained04 is offline
Magnate
 
Member Since: Feb 2015
Location: Ohio
Posts: 2,868
Quote:
Originally Posted by liveforsummer View Post
Certainly true for me too. Just wondering, do any of our BP friends actually NOT suffer from anxiety as well?
That's a good question!

Personally, I was diagnosed with BP and GAD in the same visit. I'm not sure which came first.
  #18  
Old Sep 10, 2017, 09:04 AM
fishin fool's Avatar
fishin fool fishin fool is offline
Legendary
 
Member Since: Apr 2015
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 11,872
I have bipolar 2 and also have GAD, there is a great deal of overlap as others have
already said and I don't believe that doctors ever know 100% where the line is
between one and the other. My GF has GAD but does not have bipolar.
The lines can be truly blurred for many of us.
__________________
I traded it in for a whole 'nother world
A pirate flag and an island girl
  #19  
Old Sep 10, 2017, 10:03 AM
WildcatVet's Avatar
WildcatVet WildcatVet is offline
Veteran Member
 
Member Since: Sep 2017
Location: Rural New York
Posts: 632
Some day (soon I hope!) diagnostic tests will be available to give specific information about our illnesses. But even then treatment would be difficult because every individual will react to every medication differently. I think they've already developed some tests which show which antidepressants MIGHT be most therapeutic for some patients.
  #20  
Old Sep 10, 2017, 10:50 AM
franz kafka's Avatar
franz kafka franz kafka is offline
Poohbah
 
Member Since: Apr 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 1,168
I have SZA and OCD, and they feel like separate disorders to me. I know this thread is about GAD but i figured I'd throw my two cents in.
__________________
dx: schizoaffective bipolar type; OCD; GAD
rx: clozapine, clonazepam PRN
Thanks for this!
99fairies
  #21  
Old Sep 10, 2017, 06:51 PM
BipolaRNurse's Avatar
BipolaRNurse BipolaRNurse is offline
Neurodivergent
 
Member Since: Mar 2012
Location: Western US
Posts: 4,831
I have anxiety too but both of the psychiatrists I've had say it's just part of my bipolar.
__________________
DX: Bipolar 1
Anxiety
Tardive dyskinesia
Mild cognitive impairment

RX:
Celexa 20 mg
Gabapentin 1200 mg
Geodon 40 mg AM, 60 mg PM
Klonopin 0.5 mg PRN
Lamictal 500 mg
Levothyroxine 125 mcg (rx'd for depression)
Trazodone 150 mg
Zyprexa 7.5 mg

Please come visit me @ http://bpnurse.com
  #22  
Old Sep 11, 2017, 12:29 AM
jmariah001's Avatar
jmariah001 jmariah001 is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Jul 2008
Location: Geneva, Ohio
Posts: 267
I was diagnosed with BP first then years later with GAD. It seems like my anxiety has gotten worse the past couple of years.
__________________
DX: BPD, Bipolar NOS, GAD, and ADHD
RX: Trintellix, Lamictal, Rexulti and Buspar
  #23  
Old Sep 11, 2017, 12:40 AM
dshantel's Avatar
dshantel dshantel is offline
Member
 
Member Since: Mar 2015
Location: Johnson City, TN
Posts: 377
I've been diagnosed bipolar 2, social anxiety and also adjustment disorder with anxiety and depressed mood. I always wonder if the adjustment disorder wasn't there would the social anxiety go away or if bipolar wasn't there would there still be an adjustment disorder and vise versa. They don't really explain whether or not they are dependent on the other or acting alone.
__________________
Dx: Bipolar 2, Anxiety disorder, Adjustment disorder with mixed anxious mood.
Medicine: 40mg Latuda, 35mg HydroXYZ
Past Meds: 20mg Latuda, 150mg Seroquel XR, 50mg Topiramate (Trokendi XR), 25mg Vraylar, 25mg buspirone

You live and you learn
  #24  
Old Sep 11, 2017, 04:14 PM
*Laurie* *Laurie* is offline
Account Suspended
 
Member Since: Jan 2015
Location: California Uber Alles
Posts: 9,150
I was told by a pdoc a few years ago that my severe anxiety is a 'dysphoric mania' and is part of the bipolar diagnosis.

Who really knows.
Reply
Views: 1237

attentionThis is an old thread. You probably should not post your reply to it, as the original poster is unlikely to see it.




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:43 PM.
Powered by vBulletin® — Copyright © 2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.




 

My Support Forums

My Support Forums is the online community that was originally begun as the Psych Central Forums in 2001. It now runs as an independent self-help support group community for mental health, personality, and psychological issues and is overseen by a group of dedicated, caring volunteers from around the world.

 

Helplines and Lifelines

The material on this site is for informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis or treatment provided by a qualified health care provider.

Always consult your doctor or mental health professional before trying anything you read here.