Controversial Topic: Me Too Movement and "the line"

*Laurie* · May 31, 2018 at 01:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

Lots of anger here...

I’m angry too,

I can’t take freakin meds. I’m sick of it

Yes. I'm angry at a lot of aspects of American society over the past few years. Very angry.

pirilin · May 31, 2018 at 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by BirdDancer

pirilin, I don't think he is innocent of what he did. He's not claiming innocence, but the issue is if what he did was so bad as the ruin his career. He did nothing illegal. Just very inappropriate. I've done and said inappropriate things in the past, too. Both of us have apologized. If we stop the behavior, how punished should we be?

I haven't had time to go deep in his case, however, I'm a firm believer that a man can do so much when it comes to a woman.
We try, yes. But we know when there is rejection. And who likes or dislikes what.

This a very inappropiate comment maybe, but here it goes:

I've been in bed with a woman both semi naked and I insisted a little, but she wanted to go up to second base only. Not the homerun.

I would dare to call her a p teaser, since you don't go that far to repent.
However, a rejection no matter how small, ruins the party for me.

*Laurie* · May 31, 2018 at 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by pirilin

I haven't had time to go deep in his case, however, I'm a firm believer that a man can do so much when it comes to a woman.
We try, yes. But we know when there is rejection. And who likes or dislikes what.

This a very inappropiate comment maybe, but here it goes:

I've been in bed with a woman both semi naked and I insisted a little, but she wanted to go up to second base only. Not the homerun.

I would dare to call her a p teaser, since you don't go that far to repent.
However, a rejection no matter how small, ruins the party for me.

Okay, I admit that I'm a bit frightened by your comment. I also will say, however, what I feel like I can't dare say these days.....

When I was growing up (yes, maybe I'm old and out of touch) young women were pretty much taught by our moms and older sisters that being a p-tease was not the thing to do. Not if you were a young woman with decent morals and values. Doing "that" wasn't fair to the young man and it betrayed your lack of self-respect.

Now. There IS a major difference between a PT and a woman who is truly a victim of an unwanted sexual advance...in other words, she did not do anything to encourage the advance.

BUT some of the women who are suddenly stepping up and accusing some of the men who are being accused...I mean, c'mon. I want to say, "Honey, you full-well knew what you were doing. Quit playing the 'poor me' BS."

*Laurie* · May 31, 2018 at 09:13 PM

Oh...and the whole thing about Kevin Spacey...it makes me sick. He is such a great and talented actor. Sometimes we have to separate the art from the artist.

UpDownAround · May 31, 2018 at 09:56 PM

I think of how things were done in my early years; there was not much talking when things got hot and heavy. You made moves slowly and backed off if told no or had your hand pushed away. It would have been weird to ask. The one exception to that was going all the way and even then it was asking about protection with the assumption things were progressing to it but it also gave her the opportunity to say no. I read the signs well and wouldn't make a move unless I was almost positive it would be welcome and the few times I was wrong I backed off immediately.
Now I hear stories of women who felt like they didn't have much choice because they were in a situation where they felt vulnerable and were afraid to say no. It makes me wonder how much of that went on and whether anyone I was with ever felt that way. I hope not.

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Laurie Account Suspended Member Since Jan 2015 Location: California Uber Alles Posts: 9,150 (SuperPoster!) 9 5,382 hugs given	May 31, 2018 at 09:13 PM #24 Oh...and the whole thing about Kevin Spacey...it makes me sick. He is such a great and talented actor. Sometimes we have to separate the art from the artist.
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