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Old Jan 14, 2019, 02:12 PM
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I read this phrase in a book i was reading and it really stunned me. How could excessive self-hated be as malignant as excessive self-love? I guess in both cases, you're still over-involved with yourself. I do notice that when i was feeling well recently i was much more compassionate and empathic. Now that i'm feeling sh_tty again i lack those attitudes. Hmm... Has anyone else heard of narcissistic self-hatred? What do you think of this term? What's your explanation of it?

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Old Jan 14, 2019, 07:43 PM
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I deal with self loathing a lot. I don’t have the opposite side of that coin tho.

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Old Jan 14, 2019, 09:56 PM
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Being narcissistic doesn't seem to necessarily go with high self-esteem -- of the healthy sort we tend to think of anyway.) (I know one.) Narcissism is often cover for people with very fragile egos. It's a malignant way of "protecting" one's image. Which is why one tends to get blasted with narcissistic rage calling the narcissist out -- seeing behind the curtain. They don't like that.

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Old Jan 14, 2019, 10:43 PM
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It sounds reasonable in light of the DSM V's criteria for NPD. However, this does not mean that all people who experience self-loathing are true Narcissists as other traits have to be shown, like total lack of empathy for others. So the label Narcissistic self loathing does not apply to you.
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Old Jan 15, 2019, 07:12 AM
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However, this does not mean that all people who experience self-loathing are true Narcissists as other traits have to be shown, like total lack of empathy for others.
So true.
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Old Jan 16, 2019, 12:20 AM
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you're still over-involved with yourself.
This is the right term - self-involved. A self-involved person may not have the time, bandwidth and mental energy at the moment to feel empathy for others, just as a poor person does not have spare resources for philanthropy, but it dos not mean that the self-involved person, if relieved of his or her suffering, would display callous disregard for the suffering of others the way narcissists do.
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