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Default Jan 12, 2021 at 05:49 PM
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I don't think just rumination is mania as plenty of people have this problem without being manic, but if you have other symptoms (like lack of need for sleep and racing thoughts) the "speediness" of mania/mixed episodes might be contributing.

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I don't think just rumination is mania as plenty of people have this problem without being manic, but if you have other symptoms (like lack of need for sleep and racing thoughts) the "speediness" of mania/mixed episodes might be contributing.

sometimes I do have racing thoughts. Oh what I would do to just have stillness in my mind.
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does everyone think that these thoughts are being caused by mania?
I ruminate over bad things that happened that are deeply disturbing. I was not diagnosed BP. Much of the issues have run their course, and I no longer ruminate about them. Either I worked it out with the other person, or I reframed my thinking in order to cope and move on from the unfixable situation. It feels so incredibly freeing to me to have been able to stop the rumination!

My only triggers were interpersonal events that were really upsetting. I do not feel deeply and ruminate, in general, about things that did not directly involve me and that I have no control to repair or cope with.

I put in a lot of effort and deeply cared about the discord with the issues I’ve had with my relationships that went into the ditch. My efforts either helped us get closer, or were to no avail and I accepted the outcomes, knowing I did what I could. That makes me feel good about myself, how I gave it the effort because I cared. I was proactive. Good or bad outcome, I still feel empowered because I stepped up (even though in my case the other person did not).

Feeling like you love yourself and have done your best is great for accepting whatever someone else tries to do to hurt you or simply doesn’t care. That’s on them.

Also, in moving on from someone who was hurtful and didn’t care to repair, if you can find a way to see their personal weakness and feel sorry for them, it helps stops the hurt, anger, and causes for rumination.

The ruminating is due to something unresolved. Closure is the solution for it.

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Default Jan 12, 2021 at 06:21 PM
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I ruminate over bad things that happened that are deeply disturbing. I was not diagnosed BP. Much of the issues have run their course, and I no longer ruminate about them. Either I worked it out with the other person, or I reframed my thinking in order to cope and move on from the unfixable situation. It feels so incredibly freeing to me to have been able to stop the rumination!

My only triggers were interpersonal events that were really upsetting. I do not feel deeply and ruminate, in general, about things that did not directly involve me and that I have no control to repair or cope with.

I put in a lot of effort and deeply cared about the discord with the issues I’ve had with my relationships that went into the ditch. My efforts either helped us get closer, or were to no avail and I accepted the outcomes, knowing I did what I could. That makes me feel good about myself, how I gave it the effort because I cared. I was proactive. Good or bad outcome, I still feel empowered because I stepped up (even though in my case the other person did not).

Feeling like you love yourself and have done your best is great for accepting whatever someone else tries to do to hurt you or simply doesn’t care. That’s on them.

Also, in moving on from someone who was hurtful and didn’t care to repair, if you can find a way to see their personal weakness and feel sorry for them, it helps stops the hurt, anger, and causes for rumination.

The ruminating is due to something unresolved. Closure is the solution for it.


I think mine might be related to mental illness and a chemical imbalance in my mind.
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Yet you are thinking about bad memories of things that really happened. Have you had some bad memories that you have moved on from and others that have not healed which drives the ruminating?

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Yet you are thinking about bad memories of things that really happened. Have you had some bad memories that you have moved on from and others that have not healed which drives the ruminating?
Its strange I have had plenty of bad memories but some replay in my head and some don't
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Its strange I have had plenty of bad memories but some replay in my head and some don't
Me too. Some get under the skin more than others.

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has anyone found a solution to making these thoughts go away? and have a stillness in the mind
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has anyone found a solution to making these thoughts go away? and have a stillness in the mind

No. Medication slows the thoughts, but it does not stop them (for me).

Rumination is common with BD. This is a good reference: Rumination in bipolar disorder: evidence for an unquiet mind | Biology of Mood & Anxiety Disorders | Full Text

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Default Jan 18, 2021 at 04:10 AM
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mine probably i say 50/ 50 mania / ocd..
i repete lots of thoughts in my mind not just memories. a line in a song , a sentence i cant phrase correctly, some occurance be it good or bad that i cant stop rehashing.. the good cuz it keeps making me happy and the bad just to fume and think of do over what then and tad .. plan revenge ..
my worst replay is when some silly question comes up that i know vauge answer but have no clue right or wrong what the correct answer is.. ie who sang such such song? what was the name of that movie ... ih my gosh i get stuck almost into a frantic help me so i can stop thinking about this...i will ask anyone and everone that question until someone answers in a confidant manner and then im settled with that is correct answer and im over it... i usually go under an hr before i cant remember what that correct answer even was ..
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mine probably i say 50/ 50 mania / ocd..
i repete lots of thoughts in my mind not just memories. a line in a song , a sentence i cant phrase correctly, some occurance be it good or bad that i cant stop rehashing.. the good cuz it keeps making me happy and the bad just to fume and think of do over what then and tad .. plan revenge ..
my worst replay is when some silly question comes up that i know vauge answer but have no clue right or wrong what the correct answer is.. ie who sang such such song? what was the name of that movie ... ih my gosh i get stuck almost into a frantic help me so i can stop thinking about this...i will ask anyone and everone that question until someone answers in a confidant manner and then im settled with that is correct answer and im over it... i usually go under an hr before i cant remember what that correct answer even was ..


I often replay situations in my past that have made me angry. Where I was being yelled at or a situation where I could have lashed out and fought but I exercised self restraint and did not act on violence but sometimes wish I did and felt like I could.

I am currently on a diet called keto and I think it effects my mood in some way and might effect mania or something.
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Default Feb 08, 2021 at 02:04 PM
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YES, everyday. Some are from bad memories and are from events that would never happen. I see I’m not alone in these ruminations. Mine get quite delusional at times and kind of freak me out. I don’t dare tell anyone, that would freak them out. I wish they would stop, so much wasted time and energy. Sometimes if they go on too long I’m exhausted afterwards. What works to get rid of these? I’m trying new medication, but it is still early. BP2 is exhausting. Any thoughts?
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