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I stopped my Klonopin last Friday (15th) to see how things are going now that I've been on 30 mg of Trintellix for a month.

Things are still the same - lots of anxiety. I'm trying to get by without the Klonopin but I don't know if I can do it longer term.

Did you taper down Klonopin??! If not your going to have loads of rebound anxiety which isn’t a good thing. Take care

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I appreciate the input I've received and thank you!

The thing with CBT is that I first heard about it in my late teens. I went to a "rap group" (showing my age, there ), a bunch of friendly hippies older than I was sitting in a large circle with big throw pillows, on the floor of an old Victorian house. The facilitator encouraged the group members to read about and practice CBT. If I correctly recall, Aaron Beck originated the practice. I delved into it and got into practicing it with the same so-so success I have with it now. As for bipolar disorder and anxiety, CBT seemed to contribute to the problems, because I felt I was failing by not being able to succeed at CBT. That caused me to be anxious, depressed, and angry.

In my later 20's to mid-30's I practiced Buddhism intensively. I spent much time at Green Gulch Farm/Zen Center on the coast, just north of San Francisco. An absolutely truly magnificent place. My therapist back then was a practitioner of Zen Buddhism. I really got into it, and still use many of those wonderful techniques to this day. I once sat an 8 hour silent meditation (with one short break for a silent snack) - that was powerful. Like WOW powerful. It changed my life. But I sat zazen every day, usually twice per day. So yes, Buddhism has been a tremendous influence in my life, especially breath practice.

So I could go on with "credentials" - but my point is that when I walk into a therapist's office and they are all excited about teaching CBT to me it's disappointing. For me CBT is literally 42 years old in my life. I figure that if it would have been amazingly helpful for me it would have, by now. And like I say - I do obtain some value from CBT, but since my early 30's I haven't hit on the therapeutic technique(s) that I feel are as helpful as medication is.

Anyway. I called the new clinic and made an appointment for May 2nd to see a therapist there. It's so close to my home, I'll probably keep the appointment, mostly out of curiosity. A few days later I'm scheduled with my current T. And yes - she's an angel, a beautiful human being. And we do have a strong bond. All along, though, I have had a strong feeling that she's quite intrigued with me, but not quite sure what to do with me. I just don't know if there's anything more I can learn from her than I already have.

I know one thing. If I do keep the appt. with a (probably not, but potentially) new therapist, I am asking questions! I will be "interviewing" her before I tell her anything but the basics about myself. I want to know where she comes from, is she is/has she been married, kids or no...etc. I'm not interested in yet another therapist who is swooning over New Age culture. I have protection bells sprinkled with lilac essential oil hanging in my house and I love them, they're great, they're beautiful, I don't need a therapist to tall me about how I should hang protection bells in my home to help keep bad childhood memories away.

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Not yet, she will within the next week or so though

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Well my pain is awful and it’s more the PsA bit than Fibromyalgia. I can’t get comfortable at all. Aleve and Tylenol on board and not any help.

I finally threw up my hands and I just went back to bed earlier. Gus refuses to let me lay down alone. We did get a nap. So a short break.

Tomorrow we have to take the dogs for a nail trim and then to the vet for rabies vaccine. Gus is getting some CBD oil an hour before we go. He’s a year old now but still gets car sick ! Hopefully the CBD oil helps. Otherwise I’ll just have to accept him puking while in the car. Oooffff.

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You have had numerous “ types” of therapy work throughout your life and I truly believe we all need to pick and choose what parts from all of it works for us. It’s absolutely not one size fits all.

Maybe you just need to float for a while ??!

Yeah, I'm wondering if I do. I mean, I have my meds doing as well as possible, I think, and that's most important.

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It was nice to read about your life experience with therapies. I feel like i understand better why you're so pro-medication. I guess we mostly know each other here as we are in this moment, yet a person's history especially with therapies is so enlightening. Thanks for sharing.

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Well my pain is awful and it’s more the PsA bit than Fibromyalgia. I can’t get comfortable at all. Aleve and Tylenol on board and not any help.

I finally threw up my hands and I just went back to bed earlier. Gus refuses to let me lay down alone. We did get a nap. So a short break.

Tomorrow we have to take the dogs for a nail trim and then to the vet for rabies vaccine. Gus is getting some CBD oil an hour before we go. He’s a year old now but still gets car sick ! Hopefully the CBD oil helps. Otherwise I’ll just have to accept him puking while in the car. Oooffff.

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Poor baby, getting car sick feels horrible. I hope the CBD oil works.

I feel terrible about you being in such pain. Does more sleep help at all?

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It was nice to read about your life experience with therapies. I feel like i understand better why you're so pro-medication. I guess we mostly know each other here as we are in this moment, yet a person's history especially with therapies is so enlightening. Thanks for sharing.
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I'm going to start a thread telling about the most whack therapy we've tried, so we can better understand each other.


Gosh, thank you! I didn't mean to write a book. Great idea for a thread, Jane!

Decades ago I knew a woman, she was a hippie...long dresses, walked everywhere barefoot. What a character she was. She kept several gems and crystals in her mouth and kind-of swished them around. When she talked, I mean...it sounded like she had rocks in her mouth (obviously), She'd stick out her tongue with all the rocks on it, pink, green, blue, yellow. She believed that the crystals and gems had energies that would keep her mind/body/spirit in balance. What a trip she was.

Yeah, I have some stories about therapies...and the therapists who believed in them. If you don't start that thread, I sure will.

As for medication...I am a firm believer in it, and in biology. I just know how amazing it is when I hit on the "right" med(s), as opposed to how awful I feel unmedicated, or improperly medicated. And I see how effective medication so often is for others.

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Like others I am not good at taking meds during the day. I take my whole gabapentin dose at night (1200 mg at 8:30 and 300 mg at 11 PM). This works well for me. Sometimes really well and sometimes just well but it's better than anything else has been.

I'm glad you've mentioned that because I think I need to take my Gaba in either the AM or the PM. I keep forgetting during the afternoon. I can have the darn bottle sitting right on the table and still forget. Then I end up taking it late, anyway.

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Well my pain is awful and it’s more the PsA bit than Fibromyalgia. I can’t get comfortable at all. Aleve and Tylenol on board and not any help.

I finally threw up my hands and I just went back to bed earlier. Gus refuses to let me lay down alone. We did get a nap. So a short break.

Tomorrow we have to take the dogs for a nail trim and then to the vet for rabies vaccine. Gus is getting some CBD oil an hour before we go. He’s a year old now but still gets car sick ! Hopefully the CBD oil helps. Otherwise I’ll just have to accept him puking while in the car. Oooffff.

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jeff has been taking them to help him get to sleep at night.
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I'm glad you've mentioned that because I think I need to take my Gaba in either the AM or the PM. I keep forgetting during the afternoon. I can have the darn bottle sitting right on the table and still forget. Then I end up taking it late, anyway.
I do things like that too, put something in a prominent place so I’ll see it. It works for a few days then I don’t “see” it anymore, it’s just part of the background. I tell my doctors straight up that I only do medication am and pm, I can’t remember any other times. Antibiotics are short term so I can manage that, mostly

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I had an appt. scheduled with my therapist for tomorrow, but have cancelled it. I emailed my T and explained to her that I have been extremely traumatized by the psychiatrist the clinic hired. I told my T that I have been feeling fearful, self-destructive, having bad dreams, and have been having problems with rage again. I forgot to tell her that I haven't been sleeping much, some nights not at all.

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I am feeling real anxious I am making a big purchase if every thing goes right. Now this is not a manic purchase I have been saving and I got some insurance money. I am just buying this a year early then planned but we were saving up for two bikes so I had enough to buy the one I had planned on getting. I just feel guilty cause I am doing something we had both planned on doing together.
I might just do a flip a coin or something like like left,right,forwards, and backwards. Might be kind of fun to do something like that plan a couple of stops here and there and just have a relaxing time. Maybe get some light weight camping gear and camp a couple of night doing that. I have been looking at campgrounds that had small cabins and tents fully equipped and the prices are pretty good.

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I’ve not been well at all. I think I’m either losing my mind or going into a depression. Everything came crashing down around me yesterday and I didn’t handle it as well as I could. I got some bad news about my health that I’m not ready to talk about yet. There were other things that happened and then the final straw was losing the car keys when I had a social event last night. I never got to that social event.

I had a pleasant Easter despite M not being there. I’ll meet her half way Sunday to visit. We had a good meal and a scrumptious gourmet Strawberry cake. Everything was good really.

I’ve not been taking my medicine as prescribed. I can’t say why. It’s hurting me.

My friend has become a problem. It hurts and it’s all my fault. I invited this friend back into my life with all the hurt that goes along with that. I need to cut ties and heal and move on. Today is rough but I will get back on my feet and be stronger than ever. It just hurts right now. My friend turned out to be fair weather at best. It’s disappointing. I should have known better. I did know better. Shame on me.

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I was sooooo depressed the last three days. I hadn’t told RS bc I knew he’d be very upset as I’ve only been out of the hospital for a week but I had to bc my clinician was going to call him. He was indeed very upset and mentioned taking off to Florida to live if I went back to the hospital.

I know he was not serious but this is the second time he’s said something like this. But I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t actually do it. I know how hard it must be to care for me in this state. I told him he’s not alone in feeling that way and lots of caregivers feel the exact same way. So much so that there are many support groups for different types of carers. I know that NAMI used to run one for people caring for others with serious mental illness and they probably still do. RS would never go though. He knows what he said was a little hurtful and apologized immediately.

I know I’m not doing everything I can to help myself either and now I feel guilty about that. I have to admit my (possible) trauma actually did happen But it’s so scary…it will be so painful. See I can’t even write definitely here.

I did at least write about it in my journal which I haven’t been able to do so that’s a start.

I’m feeling better today so far, I’ll probably feel like crap at program but as long as I feel better when I come home it won’t be so bad.

Oh some good news - we got our new mattress yesterday and I did not wake up in unbearable pain today! I stretched my back out before I got out of bed and it did not scream at me when I put my feet on the floor lol. Of course I did not sleep on my back, and I must do that when my wedge pillow comes in (I’m snoring again bc I gained a lot of weight :-/) so hopefully it will continue to feel better. It’s pretty wrecked from those hospital beds.

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I got my gastro appointment set up. The soonest they had was July. They said if things got worse to go to the ER. I picked up my zofran and my antacid/pain med combo. My primary stressed a couple times it had to be taken excatly 15 minutes before I ate breakfast. Not after. 15 minutes excatly before. I didn't ask what the big deal was but there must be something big. He said I have to take it every day and I can't skip a dose. He said thats really important too. I didn't have any solid foods today besides a brownie at midnight. Only a couple Slim Fasts and 2 iced tea lemonades and a Coke. I did get some little snacky stuff from Walmart I think I can eat. I had a good amount of pain after the second slim fast tonight but I used the heating pad for an hour and it seems to be ok now. I can take more tylenol in a bit and I'll probably sleep with an ice pack. I'm hoping this med works until I get into see the doctor because I don't want to go to the ER. My primary said the gastro doctor might decide to "scope" me and I worry about going under anethesia again because its not that I have a bad reaction to the stuff itself but its just I seem to get into these funky moods after getting procedures done whether I get anethesia or not. My therapist thinks my phelebotmy procedure tramatized me a bit and theres no guarantee I won't need a second one of those. I'll have 4 injections under my belt by the time the blood test is due to be done which is plenty of time for the blood level to go up. I'm a bit nervous.

Could you have gallstones or something? They can flare up and cause pain after eating certain things….
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Moose - I think you accidentally posted on Miss Laura's thread, thinking it was the check-in thread.

I don't blame you a bit about Caleb and the smoking. I was in a relationship with a man who was a heavy smoker and it was his top priority, truly addictive. It's lousy, feeling like the addiction comes before you do.
Oops! I think I did too.

Yes it is lousy feeling like the addiction comes before you! Caleb told me the other day that he can go for over an hour without smoking- like at an airport or on an airplane- if he "has to" but that's the thing, isn't it: he doesn't WANT to not smoke every 15 minutes- or sometimes even less than that when chain smoking. Or maybe it's every 10 minutes I don't know- whatever it is it's too often for me. He doesn't care that maybe I don't enjoy being around smoke so often. And when he stays at my place he's going to want to smoke on my balcony which the lease says is strictly prohibited and you can get in trouble if you let your friends smoke on property! Addictions suck. What's worse is the mental addiction. The physical isn't as bad as the mental gymnastics they have to go through to justify smoking to themselves. Usually it's just "I want to so I'm going to. Period!"

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I didn't taper. I didn't think I had to because it's only been 2 months. But maybe I should just in case.

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Sapien? I was thinking of you too.

Beth, I have not found CBT to be of much help either. Does the T offer any DBT? She says she misses seeing you. Wow, no T has said that to me (I suspect they may be schooled that way in this area Or maybe I really am/was a ''horrible'' client.

Yuck. I'm sorry about the mouldy pie.

Our trifle was bought from the supermarket, mixed berry trifle.

(tbh, papa bear is more into cooking than I am. A step witch might have factored into that. )

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I just received this email from my therapist. I guess I'll remove the names, just in case someone on the forum knows these people. Not like I feel like protecting that pdoc bi*ch.

Hello Beth,
I am so sorry to read about your struggles with your mental health status and Dr. xxx. I am relieved that you have connected with a new psychiatrist whom I hope feels more supportive of you. I am supportive of your right to complain about mental health services that did not serve you well. I would like to suggest we continue our therapy sessions to allow a safe place for you to express and release your feelings and thoughts about your traumatic experience as described in your email. I am also surprised but yet not (you predicted it) the breakup of your daughter’s marriage. It would be good for us to process that also. I understand if you feel aversion to entering the clinic but would like to encourage you to reconsider continuing therapy not only for releasing feelings and thoughts but support in continuing to learn new Mindfulness/CBT exercises/techniques. In addition, I miss seeing you. Let me know. Please continue to take care.



See, I am so fed up with hearing about CBT. I get it. I use it as much as it's helpful, which (for me) is minimal. If I see a new T I will tell her that if she mainly uses CBT it won't be a good fit.

I had a decent night of sleep, but now I feel worn out. Haha, on top of all the therapy crap I bought a marionberry hand pie from a lovely kind-of gourmet grocery store and it was moldy Gross. I called their bakery and the woman there offered another hand pie. I told her probably not I'd rather have credit for something else, but I didn't feel motivated to suggest that.

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