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Location: California
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I am alone at home. Not cooking anything special. I am not lonely nor sad but I feel so disappointed and at a loss as to my next steps in treating bipolar illness. Just recently I tried the combo of Vraylar and Seroquel hoping that Vraylar would work for mood and a low dose of Seroquel would work for sleep. Two years ago I tried Vraylar alone and ended up not sleeping and ultimately feeling that it would devolve into mania, so I had to take Zyprexa again. This time I decided that it might work because after all Seroquel would be for sleep. For several days it sort of worked. I woke up very early but then took a nap and my total net sleep as measured by Oura tracker was about 7 hours which was good. But this past night Vraylar won and Seroquel lost: I fell asleep fast, then woke up in the middle of the night a couple of times but was able to to back to sleep, and woke up at 4AM and realized that I would not be able to go back to sleep.
I took another 25 mg of Seroquel (at bedtime I take 37.5 mg). It did not work at all. No sleep. So at 4:45 AM I resorted to Zyprexa as rescue medicine and took 7.5 mg. I woke up at 8 AM but needed two naps later in the day to catch up. Zyprexa works beautifully but I cannot take it for weight/hunger reasons. Lybalvi does not do the trick for me: I feel the same hunger as on Zyprexa. I have tried so many things: Clozapine caused debilitating depression at the slightest dose. I could not move. Risperidone caused deeply gray and at times psychotic depression and severe EPS, killed sexuality completely Geodon by itself was not enough for me to sleep, did not contain elevated mood, possibly caused anxiety a few times. I will now try it again in the company of Seroquel hoping that maybe this combo will do the job Abilify extreme nausea and did not help with elevated mood. Now I have Zofran for nausea so I am open to trying again in the company of Zofran. Lithium acne, hypothyroidism, and did not help Tegretol rash and sore throat that would not go away, depression, at a low dose. I did not try long enough because I halted the trial due to rash. Lamictal insomnia, possibly caused hypomania Zyprexa plus Wellbutrin, with the hope that Wellbutrin will quell the hunger. Wellbutrin caused insomnia and I stopped sleeping. It did nothing to the hunger. Saphris caused hypomania and I stopped sleeping. Trazodone caused hypomania and stopped working for sleep benzos do nothing for me at all. Do not help with sleep. Ambien and other medications in that class do nothing for me at all. Do not help with sleep. Only select antipsychotics help me sleep. Without medications I cannot sleep and it has been going on for more than 10 years. Latuda and low dose Thorazine immense sleep requirements, was on disability from work for this reason. Latuda and low dose Seroquel less sleep than with Thorazine but still a lot. Unpredictable sleep. Often had to come home from work to take a nap and go back. When this happens, I cannot function at all. Cannot think of anything but when I would be able to sleep. Also Latuda kills the libido and creative drive. I could live with that if I was at least guaranteed that with normal amount of sleep I could function. higher doses of Thorazine slept forever and ever. Maybe I should try again a very low dose, something like half a 10 mg tablet. Topamax caused depression at the slightest dose. It did not immediately resolve upon discontinuation of the medicine because it has a long half-life. I was glad when it finally resolved and swore off trying again. I tried it with Zyprexa hoping that it would counteract weight gain from Zyprexa but depression set in and was so very bad. Provigil and Nuvigil. Do nothing for me. If I am sleepy and take them, I remain sleepy and need a nap. Haldol I was not able to sleep on it. Maybe I should try it with low dose Seroquel. Gapabentin I take it but on it alone I cannot sleep. Seroquel at high doses. Caused akathisia that was like torture. Gabapentin helps with that, but Seroquel alone is not enough as a mood stabilizer: I get elevated mood and stop sleeping. What I did not try is taking a small dose of regular Seroquel at bedtime for sleep and a high dose of Seroquel ER in the morning for mood stabilization. Maybe that will do the trick. Dayvigo did not help enough with sleep and caused headaches I have not tried Caplyta. There I am concerned that it would not prevent elevated mood. But worth trying to see for myself. I guess there are so many FGAs I can try, especially now that I take high dose of Vitamin B6 which helps with EPS. Some people are insensitive enough to tell me that I should exercise to get tired and then I would sleep. Everything has been tried and when I exercise, which I do and will continue to do for other benefits, I still need medication for sleep. When I am underslept, I often feel very unpleasant discomfort on the left side of the chest. Sometimes it is to the point that I call the sensation "squeezed heart". I so far have never encountered another person with that symptom. It might be a physical manifestation of anxiety. There is nothing wrong with my heart which has been checked. I guess this is called treatment-resistant or intractable bipolar. __________________ Bipolar I w/psychotic features Last inpatient stay in 2018 Geodon 40 mg Seroquel 75 mg Lybalvi 5 mg as a PRN Gabapentin 1200 mg, Vitamin B-complex (against extrapyramidal side effects) Long term side effects from medications some of them discontinued: - hypothyroidism - obesity Suspected narcolepsy Treated with Ritalin 5mg Last edited by Tart Cherry Jam; Nov 24, 2023 at 12:53 AM.. |
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