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Default Sep 18, 2014 at 05:45 PM
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Very thorough, and very true! I like that it describes it all in one shot. Some websites can have two pages of nonsense!

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Default Oct 28, 2014 at 10:41 PM
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I agree with christine. I dont kno if i have bpd but here is my situation: i would feel like a different person at times. There are 3 of me: #1, i love all my friends and family alot even when im angry at them. And whenever i hav a girlfriend, i would fall in love with her easily. I dont stalk and i dont harass. #2. Is when i turn into a cold bitter person who would get real mad at people and things for things i normally wont giv a s**t about. And #3 is when i get very sad bcuz of the things i did and though of. In other words... im a terrible person. I would almost worship a certain person this day, week or whatever, then suddenly i would not hate that person but i would either hav an intense anger towards that person, mainly because they hurt my feelings in the past. At that point that person would b considered a complete jerk until my feelings change toward them. Then i would b so sorry, depressed and empty for a while.the good part is i dont go around gettin in physical fights unless i hav to defend myself or someone else. I dont fight women. I really hate it when people think i dobad things for attention. I started cutting myself in 2010. The last time i cut was when i got highly upset at a hotel where i got drunk, broke a plate ( couldnt find a knife) and scratck both my arms alot. After that night i had to tell people i got drunk and fell in the bush. I did all that cutting bcuz the group i was with wanted to go home early and i had no other ride.

Can anyone giv me an idea of whats wrong wit me? I'll appreciate your help.
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I like this description of BPD because it is more than just a list, and I suppose because I relate to it very much. Learning more about BPD has helped me slow down the processes and find words for what is going on.

When this diagnosis is offered, it isn't always offered as an explanation for how we relate to ourselves and others and the intense emotions that result.
It is a complex way of being, as one thing affects another..affects another. It is no wonder we often feel overwhelmed.
I feel so fortunate to have a psychotherapist who understands, accepts, and is kind and patient.

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from the site: Personality Disorders Institute, borderline personality disorders, psychotherapy, psychiatry, and mental health, public

The symptoms of borderline patients are similar to those for which most people seek psychiatric help: depression, mood swings, the use and abuse of drugs, alcohol, or food as a means of trying to feel better; obsessions, phobias, feelings of emptiness and loneliness, inability to tolerate being alone.

In addition, these patients displayed great difficulties in controlling ragefulness; they were unusually impulsive, they fell in and out of love suddenly; they tended to idealize other people and then abruptly despise them. A consequence of all this was that they typically looked for help from a therapist and then suddenly quit in terrible disappointment and anger.

Underneath all these symptoms, therapists began to see in borderline people an inability to tolerate the levels of anxiety, frustration, rejection and loss that most people are able to put up with, an inability to soothe and comfort themselves when they become upset, and an inability to control the impulses toward the expression, through action, of love and hate that most people are able to hold in check. What seems to be of central importance in the symptoms and difficulties mentioned above is that the hallmark of the "borderline" personality is great difficulty in holding on to a stable, consistent sense of one's self: "What am I?" these people ask. "My life is in chaos; sometimes I feel like I can do anything—other times I want to die because I feel so incompetent, helpless and loathsome. I'm a lot of different people instead of being just one person."

The one word that best characterizes borderline personality is "instability." Emotions are unstable, fluctuating wildly, often for no discernible reason. Thought processes are unstable—rational and clear at times, quite extreme and distorted at other times. Behavior is unstable—often with periods of excellent conduct, high efficiency and trustworthiness alternating with outbreaks of regression to childlike states of helplessness and anger, suddenly quitting a job, withdrawing into isolation, failing.

Self control is unstable leading to impulsive behaviors and chaotic relationships. A person with borderline personality disorder may sacrifice themselves for others, only to reach their limit and suddenly fly into rageful reproaches, or they may curry favor through obedient submission only to rebel, out of the blue, in a tantrum.

Associated with this instability is terrible anxiety, guilt and self-loathing for which relief is sought at any cost—medicine, drugs, alcohol, overeating, suicide. Sadly, oddly, self-injury is discovered by many borderline people to provide faster relief than anything else—cutting or burning themselves stops the anxiety temporarily.

The effect upon others of all this trouble is profound: family members never know what to expect from their volatile child, siblings, or spouse, except they know they can expect trouble: suicide threats and attempts, self-inflicted injuries, outbursts of rage and recrimination, impulsive marriages, divorces, pregnancies and abortions; repeated starting and stopping of jobs and school careers, and a pervasive sense, on the part of the family, of being unable to help.
I just wanted to add that although I do not have this disorder, the whole thing about being more than one person is sort of true for everyone. Look at the dream state, all of those people in the dreams are parts of ourselves. Someone such as myself becomes aware of the same thing because for me that type of consciousness can sort of slip into my waking state at times a little bit (although I always stay in touch with reality). I became aware of this due to these hallucinatory experiences, but I think that people on this thread maybe just didn't really form a solid ego to begin with so they just sort of blend into their environment and these "alternate" identities sort of come through sometimes without the person even realizing it.
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Default Nov 05, 2014 at 10:05 PM
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Ditto, couldn't describe it better myself. Thank you and yet I carry burden for all of us who fit that description. I feel for us. It's a painful, difficult, confusing, chaotic life to live that usually results in being alone.

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Default Nov 05, 2014 at 11:13 PM
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Ummmm, yup, that's my husband of 20 years to a T...... Guess maybe I am the one who is Crazy,, to stay with him.....I love him but at times he is awfully hard to live with.......
Just remember if you have BPD and someone loves you enough to stay with you for 20 years,,,, don't take it for granted.... they have there breaking point too.....

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After 20 years in therapy it was by accident that i found out i was borderline. I happened to read a report stating "the patient has chronic anorexia nervosa and long stand anxiety disorder. This is all with the context of a borderline personality organization"
I had been married for twenty years and had no idea i had this disorder. I didnt realise that I had been acting so irrationally for most of our married years. Perhaps had I known earlier I would have done things differently in my marriage and would still be married today. So now i find myself all alone, no husband, no children after twenty years of marriage with the label of "borderline" tattooed across my forehead. I have never felt so alone and frightened in my entire life. On one hand its helpful to know that i have this illness but on the other i tend to question my think all the time and sometime act and have the mentality of borderline. Im not me anymore, im simply another statistic, a sick and flawed person who cannot be helped. I feel as though no one takes me seriously anymore. Sometime i can even work out whats fact and whats fiction in my own head. I have to stop and think, am i being rational or is the borderline? I feel afraid of myself, as though my mind is not mine anymore. I dont have any control of my thinking. I dont trust myself to make decisions anymore. And worst still my husband has left me at the worst time ever. I feel so painfully alone and abandoned. So many feelings of pain that im not able to control them any longer. I feel as though im slowly going insane and see no future for myself. I had a home and a husband who did care about me and looked after me financially. Now I have nothing. Im battling to receive social security payments in order to live. Im so afraid of what is to become of me.....so very afraid and utterly alone....
My therapist doesnt help either. He treat me like a borderline person. Just telling me what he thinks i want to hear and offers me no real help or ways of being able to cope with my illness. I always leave his rooms feeling worse than when i came in. He makes me feel as though there is no hope for me. I know this because apparently my gp was concerned about my depression at one stage and my therapist told him words to the effect of "dont worry, she's always ringing up and complaining. if its not one thing its another with her".
No wonder i sensed that my gp didnt take me seriously anymore. That was NOT my borderline thinking, that definitely was the case. Now i just think of myself as a burden to society, a loser, im not a person anymore. Im a wretched waste of space on this planet who has been used and abused by the people i trusted the most. Where do i go from here? Im 53 years old and all alone....and and as angry and confused as all hell

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LizzieV, I think maybe a new T might be useful. Try to forget about what could have been with your ex and focus on the now.

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Default Dec 16, 2014 at 09:17 PM
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I've been placed in the position where im forced to see the therapist i am currently seeing. He has been my treating therapist since my former therapist sexually abused me. Long story, ive posted my original thread re sexual abuse on http://forums.psychcentral.com/roman...-feelings.html

My current therapist is the only person who can provide evidence of my mental disability and state of mind and is "helping" to settle a claim towards my former therapist for sexual abuse. The compensation matter has dragged on for what seems like forever and now im informed that insurance company are NOT willing to pay for his negligence.

Of course my ex husband timed it so very perfectly. He left me when im at my most vulernable and has spent all the money i had saved since we were first married. I went into the marriage 20 years ago with $300,000 in assets and he spent it all.

If i could get rid of my current therapist i would have done so after the first few appointments, but as you can see im stuck with the useless arrogant creep.

Is it any wonder i feel as though im going totally insane or what ???? Or am i being a drama queen as he seems to think that i am? Just so very angry, bitter and confused atm. My moods shift from moment to moment that i cannot bear it any longer

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Hi,
I am new here and not sure I am replying in the proper place. This is my first post. I guess I will find out in a few minutes. I will take a copy of my reply just in case. IF I don't forget !haha
I feel I am in a rather strange position. I am almost 81 years old and believe I have finally been able to put a label on myself [BPD] which may [at the very least] allow me to understand why I have done a lot of mental suffering during my life. To what end understanding comes I don't know - It is rather late! and then I think of Karen Horney [Our Inner Conflicts] stating that "there is no reason a person should stop learning and changing until the day they die." Understanding why I am who I am will help me and I would like to think I will be able to help others with this knowledge. Specifically my children and their children and maybe their children. Only now do I think I accept that I have and have had a mental illness. A concrete illness - like a stone in my brain - a stone that bars access and has barred access to many areas of life.
I am fortunate - no cutting or thoughts of cutting - I didn't commit suicide although it has always been a temptation - I am Canadian so I was able to get psychiatric care without financial cost - I saw one psychiatrist for 13 years and I think he kept me alive during that time - I have done well financially and am
able to live well on money I earned myself etc etc etc.
I find it so strange that at this age I suddenly see the light go on [came across something about BPD in the internet and went chasing it] - could it be that my [our] physical brain changes and allows us to accept things we would not be able to accept at a younger age?
I don't know. What do you think? Thank you for your thoughtful post Echoes.
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Default Feb 18, 2015 at 10:33 PM
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New here, hello everyone. Thanks for clearing this up for me. I was unsure if I was just projecting an illness I thought I had to my psychiatrist, who then pulled up a list and asked which of the bullet points applied to me, without really going into depth at all. I felt like I was inadvertently diagnosing myself, and I see myself an idiot so that wouldn't do. I'm relieved that this fits because it eliminates some of my confusion, depite the news that I'm officially mentally ill.
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Sadly, that sounds a lot like me.
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So all of this is so me to a tee...but I haven't been diagnosed...kind of diagnosed myself and although it scares the crap out of me...when my husband says things like "you are sick" "you have BPD", etc...I get so enraged...I don't wanna be sick. I don't wanna have a mental illness....I just wanna be normal. I want to be able to control all the negative things that go on in my head. Its like there are 2 of me and I have no control of either. And as hard as I try...I fail, at least that's what my husband inadvertently, indirectly tells me, well I tell myself that too. I fight these feelings and emotions and thoughts...and somethings I succeed with my verbals words...but I still lose the battle.

My husband and I have been married 2 months and I have left him 3 times. I physically assault him regularly. (Now here is the justification for my assault, he is huge (Marine fit guy) and I am less than 100 lbs. I couldn't hurt him if I try, but I go into these uncontrollable rages over nothing, I mean nothing...and then the fight is on...and then I call the police and I beg them not to arrest him and then we make up and then we are great for a few days until I open my mouth again. And all he wants for me is to get better...and all I want from him is for him to shut up and quit telling me how I should be and what his opinion is and how wrong I am...oh my goodness I could go on for days....btw...he is a great man, he trys to be supportive and he loves me like no other ( I don't mean to sound so critical of him because he is so, so good to me.)

Anyways, I just want to fix me and I don't know how.
This sounds a lot like my relationship with my boyfriend. I get enraged whenever he blames my reactions on BPD because I feel like he completely disregards my reasons. I mean, I overreact, but I still have my reasons for feeling upset about something, even if it's out of proportion... on the other hand, I'm very critical of myself and others and perhaps I'm just trying to keep him to such high standards that he is humanly unable to meet. Anyway, I don't view borderline as an illness. It's more of a personality that didn't develop healthy ways of dealing with things. To be honest, I was relieved when I discovered I had that, I prefer to be borderline than an aggressive mad living failure...
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Yeah, my oldest sister used to tell me that I was special and more "aware" than other people--that I was more "deep" and blah, blah, blah. My mom and the rest of the family just thought I was angry, defensive and bratty.
I've also heard comments like that for my whole life, either people who tell you how 'special and unique' you are, or those that say that you're bad tempered and bratty... I once heard someone say that the connection with a borderline person is unlike any other friends they had, that at times it functions on some special level of understanding that goes beyond what 'common' people can see and experience, and sometimes the connection gets broken off completely.
I think even if on an emotional level we all might function according to similar patterns, intellectually the issues we deal with make us more aware and give us insights into the sides of life and interpersonal contact that might never even occur to others.
It's a struggle and there's no doubt about that but what I can at least to some extent appreciate about the whole situation is that I had to dig deep to understand why I am like that and why other people are the way they are, and it made me think.
BDP doesn't have to define us!
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Default Apr 21, 2015 at 08:37 PM
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It sounds so crazy in print I wonder why we keep repeating same stuff when it hurts so bad. That cat looks just like my cat.

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I used to wish I was wrong or my brain was wrong in watever my intuition was telling me. (Always bad) or wish I cud be unaware like some people but nope!

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Absolutely not opposit of regret

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I have always had these difficulties and realize others have seen it, including doctors, but I've never been sent for help. My entire life has been chaos in my head and through my actions..lost friends and haven't succeeded on anything to a decent level.
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There's always been this chaos and negativity and aggression in my life, and the worst thing is, I even lack the means to express it all when talking to people because it's all so bottled up in me that I can only shout these things out in anger and that gives people a very distorted view of what I'm going through. But I refuse to accept everything about having BPD is bad and hopeless... In a way, I like that it makes me different and it makes me think about things that have never occurred to others. Perhaps I've spent so much time working through my moods that I've built a whole ideology on it... Or perhaps if I didn't think that way I could just lie down and die because my whole life's been a complete mess.
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I feel that way too on one level im pretty confident in my abilities and know I'm smart but I'm 48 still dealing w same 3 guys it's a merry go round stopping same spot every time

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