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Default Jan 23, 2010 at 06:46 AM
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Is it possible to diagnose both BPD and Bipolar Disorder at the same time? (I was diagnosed at both different times)
I am in a similar situation I was diagnosed Bipolar II,Recurrent Depressive Illness, Anxiety and Social Phobia by my old Psych....However my new Psych is now looking at a dx of BPD...And according to him my dx could change from Bipolar to BPD or it could be both (I'm in the UK so if you're in USA they might work differently I don't know) So I'm confused too...He's keeping me under observation and I'm in the process of waiting to start some therapy so we'll see how it goes...If I get a change in dx or anything I'll let you know....

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I like this description of BPD because it is more than just a list, and I suppose because I relate to it very much. Learning more about BPD has helped me slow down the processes and find words for what is going on.

When this diagnosis is offered, it isn't always offered as an explanation for how we relate to ourselves and others and the intense emotions that result.
It is a complex way of being, as one thing affects another..affects another. It is no wonder we often feel overwhelmed.
I feel so fortunate to have a psychotherapist who understands, accepts, and is kind and patient.

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The symptoms of borderline patients are similar to those for which most people seek psychiatric help: depression, mood swings, the use and abuse of drugs, alcohol, or food as a means of trying to feel better; obsessions, phobias, feelings of emptiness and loneliness, inability to tolerate being alone.

In addition, these patients displayed great difficulties in controlling ragefulness; they were unusually impulsive, they fell in and out of love suddenly; they tended to idealize other people and then abruptly despise them. A consequence of all this was that they typically looked for help from a therapist and then suddenly quit in terrible disappointment and anger.

Underneath all these symptoms, therapists began to see in borderline people an inability to tolerate the levels of anxiety, frustration, rejection and loss that most people are able to put up with, an inability to soothe and comfort themselves when they become upset, and an inability to control the impulses toward the expression, through action, of love and hate that most people are able to hold in check. What seems to be of central importance in the symptoms and difficulties mentioned above is that the hallmark of the "borderline" personality is great difficulty in holding on to a stable, consistent sense of one's self: "What am I?" these people ask. "My life is in chaos; sometimes I feel like I can do anything—other times I want to die because I feel so incompetent, helpless and loathsome. I'm a lot of different people instead of being just one person."

The one word that best characterizes borderline personality is "instability." Emotions are unstable, fluctuating wildly, often for no discernible reason. Thought processes are unstable—rational and clear at times, quite extreme and distorted at other times. Behavior is unstable—often with periods of excellent conduct, high efficiency and trustworthiness alternating with outbreaks of regression to childlike states of helplessness and anger, suddenly quitting a job, withdrawing into isolation, failing.

Self control is unstable leading to impulsive behaviors and chaotic relationships. A person with borderline personality disorder may sacrifice themselves for others, only to reach their limit and suddenly fly into rageful reproaches, or they may curry favor through obedient submission only to rebel, out of the blue, in a tantrum.

Associated with this instability is terrible anxiety, guilt and self-loathing for which relief is sought at any cost—medicine, drugs, alcohol, overeating, suicide. Sadly, oddly, self-injury is discovered by many borderline people to provide faster relief than anything else—cutting or burning themselves stops the anxiety temporarily.

The effect upon others of all this trouble is profound: family members never know what to expect from their volatile child, siblings, or spouse, except they know they can expect trouble: suicide threats and attempts, self-inflicted injuries, outbursts of rage and recrimination, impulsive marriages, divorces, pregnancies and abortions; repeated starting and stopping of jobs and school careers, and a pervasive sense, on the part of the family, of being unable to help.
Since I've been on site I haven't knewn where to go. This descrpition is the same the diagnosis I was given0 about 1995, they called it Dissocitive, one step under multiple personality. I'm 49 the names change the disorder all and more, but too many to name they put them together and called it PTSD. blah blahblah . My Sister was M.P., Aunt used weapon,
Anyway I've been in Littles Room, a new garden for a bit bigger kids and a Teenage Garden for - all steming from this. where I to try and let sometimes out ...
So, well - this looks where I could belong, but I could do depression, anixety, bipoler
Well just thought I wanted to stop in. I feel weird, stupid, scared ,un-liked
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Default Jan 23, 2010 at 09:09 PM
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i just wrote a length description, diagnosis, bhaviors I'm 49 they have put diganosis together becuase there way to many which lead to PTSD. So if it were broken down - I'd have most of it - disociotive just under multple personality my sister was MP. full history disfuncing chemical imbalances lead very bad behavior add go chemical sttuff
I've been going in lLittle , just found Garden young kids and Teen Gardern, where are te mother (over seeer) hidden deep where to go for them anyone want sugguest or send me away
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Default Jan 29, 2010 at 12:46 PM
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How come I can know I'm medicating the self-loathing ... but I can't stop it!
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Default Feb 06, 2010 at 01:06 AM
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I just want to say thank you all for the support you give to new people right off the bat and the support you give to complete strangers. I am very grateful finding this site. Thank you again.
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aliceinwonderland, Hi and welcome!
I'm very glad you found this site, too.
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Default Feb 12, 2010 at 07:35 AM
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wow is that me or what
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Default Feb 15, 2010 at 04:19 PM
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Just asking............ am I normal or just one of those BPD symptoms??!!
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Lol!!...............
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Default Feb 23, 2010 at 02:17 AM
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yup...me too and
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thats very precise,i only wish you might have included here what one can do to heal themselves of this tragic,profoundly disrupting condition.i am bpd,and for me,i get ,used to get self injurious because i have all this frustration built up inside.and since it is most repulsive to me,to hurt someone,i hurt me.unfortunantly,i was hurting ppl who cared in the proces.thus i have ceased to self injure.i do not understand why i am so terribly dysfunctional,or how to heal my self.and when i think of commiting suicide,it is usually to rid my loved ones of the disturbances in their lives,to be brutally honest,when i was younger,all prior to the year 2000,it may have been manipulative.to bring things back to caring for me.but you must understand that i may possess that insight in looking back.at the time i knew very little about the psychology of all of this.In fact i am only just now able to see the perspectives of others,ie.my impact on them.i always thought myself to be an empath,and genuinely concerned for others.i;at this juncture in life,have only just begun to crack open and peer into the pandoras box that is me.The impact and reality of all this looking in the mirror is devastating to say the very least.i feel like a monster when i peer back,and now too.i would give almost anything to have been normal and good.i have never had a therapist,and have survived thus far;iam 42,by the sheer grace of God.my biggest fear at this time is that i will die untransformed,and as ruined by this disorder as i ever have been.treesa
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Default Mar 02, 2010 at 12:55 PM
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thanks sooo much! I never quite knew what was wrong with me until i read that. it all makes sense now
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Default Mar 09, 2010 at 11:09 AM
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The first time I read about BPD I felt terrible, because all I thought was real, has disappeared.
Today I wonder if what I feel is even true, or is it just me commanding.
I've never fitted into any description so perfect before.

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The first time I read about BPD I felt terrible, because all I thought was real, has disappeared.
Today I wonder if what I feel is even true, or is it just me commanding.
I've never fitted into any description so perfect before.
It can feel like a sudden curve in the road.
But curves in the road can lead to some beautiful places!
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Does this sound like BPD?

1) depressive
2) suicidal ideation
3) has had a psychotic episode
4)chronically irritable towards people
5)chronically unhappy
6)chronically lonely
7) feels empty inside when she isn't "in love"
8) doesn't know who she is
9)overeacts emotionally to things
10)thinks the world is a malicious dangerous place (the people in it)
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11) father and brother have anti social disorder
12)abusive childhood due to marital violence in the home
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Default Mar 22, 2010 at 03:53 PM
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Does this sound like BPD?

1) depressive
2) suicidal ideation
3) has had a psychotic episode
4)chronically irritable towards people
5)chronically unhappy
6)chronically lonely
7) feels empty inside when she isn't "in love"
8) doesn't know who she is
9)overeacts emotionally to things
10)thinks the world is a malicious dangerous place (the people in it)

Hi SophiaG, your list is absolutely spot on, did you read Echo's first comment on this thread? Good luck!
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