[sujunew]

Although I was diagnosed with BPD years ago I know very little about it, and it is never brought up when I see my pdoc (which is fine by me)! At the moment I am looking for...not answers...I think just some advice. I came off my meds about 3 months ago and for the most part things have been ok- not as great as when I was on them (I was on Efexor and Serequal) but not too bad. But something I have noticed more and more is that I become angry very quickly, and it takes very little to trigger it. I don't normally have an issue with anger (I mean, I get angry but can usually control it and deal with it). Now though I literally explode att he smallest, least significant thing and even when I use strategies such as walking away, putting things into perspective, deep breathing etc etc the anger doesn't abate. I have heard that this can be a symptom of BPD but like I said I know very little about it and quite frankly I can't be bothered battling with my super-slow computer to try and look it all up! I am really loathe to going back on any sort of meds at the moment (I want a break from them; I want to try and prove that I can live my life without them; and I am being stubborn) but I don't want my girls to suffer from my outbursts any more. Does anyone have any insight, advice or reccommendations they could pass on, PLEASE?!?!
Many many thanks.

[SICKlySweet]

Originally Posted by sujunew

Although I was diagnosed with BPD years ago I know very little about it, and it is never brought up when I see my pdoc (which is fine by me)! At the moment I am looking for...not answers...I think just some advice. I came off my meds about 3 months ago and for the most part things have been ok- not as great as when I was on them (I was on Efexor and Serequal) but not too bad. But something I have noticed more and more is that I become angry very quickly, and it takes very little to trigger it. I don't normally have an issue with anger (I mean, I get angry but can usually control it and deal with it). Now though I literally explode att he smallest, least significant thing and even when I use strategies such as walking away, putting things into perspective, deep breathing etc etc the anger doesn't abate. I have heard that this can be a symptom of BPD but like I said I know very little about it and quite frankly I can't be bothered battling with my super-slow computer to try and look it all up! I am really loathe to going back on any sort of meds at the moment (I want a break from them; I want to try and prove that I can live my life without them; and I am being stubborn) but I don't want my girls to suffer from my outbursts any more. Does anyone have any insight, advice or reccommendations they could pass on, PLEASE?!?!
Many many thanks.

I can relate to that anger issue. I didn't have an anger problem ( I can however remember that it was slowly working it's way up (anger) post meds, I was on Effexor too. I am now wondering if after whatever settles down when coming off triggers something. Or if it is just all the anger that I had never dealt with that was boiling inside of me for three years of meds and b4. B4 I snapped. I would think so, bcuz on meds I was a walking Zombie.

I am trying to remember some exercises that were tried in group. If I can explain it correctly, this one that was brought up was when the anger comes, to cross your arms and tap/slap on opposite sides of your arms. Really Fast till the anger subsides. Worked for a lady there. I tried it, irritates me more so. I guess a person would just need to try it.

Distracting yourself from the anger or what's causing it.

When I want to bring my attention back I Self Sooth: Warm Bubble Bath, Coloring, Listening to some Tunes, Exercising . I know you don't want answers, just advice, but (AND believe me I really have alot of problems with it) but these skills are things that we use already in our day to day lives, they are just more defined. The Skills that are taught within DBT (Dialectic Behavior Therapy)

Anyways Sorry I can't be of more help.

[sujunew]

Thanks for that. Some good advice.
I have wondered too if it could be past issues triggering all this, but while I think it plays a part I don't believe that is the main part of my problem.

[Michah]

Oh yeah, babe. Good old anger..........I used to experience rage very often when first dx........hospital, meds and intensive therapy got me to a point where I could learn to control it.

In your case, I wonder if just some intermittent therapy would help.......just someone to talk to and then make sense of it........know you don't want advice and the other wonderful reply is good stuff. Thats all I can think of .......as that is really the only thing that works for me oh, and anti-psychotics.

Good luck........

[TLCCR2JEWELS]

well this site has lead me to the issues I have been enduring over the last 2 weeks. I am on wellbutrin twice a day along with a small dose of adderall. Here lately I have felt more rage and anger surfacing to the point my heart pounds and I can't breathe. I also just had my left kidney removed Jan 12 2009 due to a tumor in which was cancer. The adrenal gland was left behind. I do know if there are hormonal inbalances or even chemical one add a couple of good old drugs on top of the issues any one has who is to say what the triggers are. Have you ever tried to keep a diary of when the rage occurs and where you were, what day of the month, time of day, what activity were you doing etc. to help look for patterns. It is human nature to take the least resistant path with conflict it is what we are comfortable with.

[sujunew]

Originally Posted by TLCCR2JEWELS

well this site has lead me to the issues I have been enduring over the last 2 weeks. I am on wellbutrin twice a day along with a small dose of adderall. Here lately I have felt more rage and anger surfacing to the point my heart pounds and I can't breathe. I also just had my left kidney removed Jan 12 2009 due to a tumor in which was cancer. The adrenal gland was left behind. I do know if there are hormonal inbalances or even chemical one add a couple of good old drugs on top of the issues any one has who is to say what the triggers are. Have you ever tried to keep a diary of when the rage occurs and where you were, what day of the month, time of day, what activity were you doing etc. to help look for patterns. It is human nature to take the least resistant path with conflict it is what we are comfortable with.

Sorry to hear of all you have been through recently. I hope things are improving for you now. I had to laugh though at what you wrote, having just walked in the door from my session with t and she said the same stuff- keep a diary of each incident so that we can look at it and see what is happening at the time. She feels that a lot of it is probably 'unresolved anger issues', which coincide with the work we are doing on my past relationship and the abuses issues within it. I know that the level of anger is unjustified, but through keeping the diary and trying a couple of strategies which I already do, but putting them together, I hope that things will get better as quickly as poss. (The 2 strategies I am going to try together is walking away, then if I am still in a heightened state of anger changing the physical environment ie going out for a walk or a drive; sending the girls outside to play, changing what activity they are doing at the time...). I also think that by acknowledging it out loud is going to lessen my responses a little- that seems to work for me with other things anyway!!
Thanks for the advice too, Michah- but if I can avoid returning to the need for meds I will!!!!!!

[niecy440]

I wouldn't advise going off meds maybe just changing a few around or something. I still have ideas of going off my meds but know I will be angry with severe mood swings. I hate being on so much meds but i have bipolar too. I too had severe anger over the smallest things. I have so many regrets for the pain I caused my family as a teenager on thoough my 30's. I'm now 42 and have been almost symptom free with my meds for the past year. i'm on abilify, prozac, klonopin, trazodone. Other then the weight gain i'm feeling not as intense with emotion. Does anybody have trouble with that time of the month? Even with meds i still feel somewhat anxious and depressed and angry only not severe with meds.

[sujunew]

"I wouldn't advise going off meds maybe just changing a few around or something."
Yeah, I wouldn't recommend it either, and neither would my dr- it was 2 months after I came off them that I saw her (), although my nurse knew within a couple of weeks. I had planned to wean off them but just went cold turkey... and didn't even get withdrawls from it too badly- just what I would get if I missed a couple of doses. My dr would like me to be back on something but respects my wish at the moment to stay off meds...

"I have so many regrets for the pain I caused my family as a teenager on thoough my 30's."
I know that had I been diagnosed with depression 6 years before I was life would have been so different- for the better. I often think about that.

[Curiousdude]

Watch anger management with adam sandler guarenteed that will make you feel better

[sujunew]

true, lol!!!