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Default Nov 30, 2022 at 08:01 AM
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Her denying that she said anything to her family is more gaslighting. Gaslighting is an abuse tactic used to confuse you, invalidate you and to make you question your perception and reality.

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Default Dec 14, 2022 at 08:07 AM
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Some thoughts - I do tend to share more about my inner thoughts and feelings than most people around me. For years I've wanted her to deal differently with those things I share - it isn't happening. I guess I'll have to learn to keep my thoughts to myself. The less I tell her about what's going on inside - what I'm thinking about - things that bother me - the better. I have had some successes over the last few years - as far as my own peace of mind goes - by focusing on goals.

It's a hard lesson to learn. My wife does some pretty crappy things.

I'm trying to take a more light-hearted view of what's going on, and what I can do to change.

Perhaps in 2 years I can look at divorce again - in the meantime I'll continue to work on what I can - specifically my own finances and mental well-being.

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Default Dec 14, 2022 at 08:36 AM
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I'm working on ways to distract myself. Lately I've been binge-watching Only Murders in the Building, gaming, and reading. I'm also working how to respond when she is obviously trying to push my buttons. - it really doesn't seem to make much sense to confront her - she just denies and/or claims she can't remember.

I would like to continue to find ways to make her uncomfortable when she is obviously playing mind games on me.

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Default Dec 14, 2022 at 08:44 AM
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I think she may be a little afraid of divorce. She brought it up before I ever did... something like "now don't divorce me if we win this lottery"

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I think she may be a little afraid of divorce. She brought it up before I ever did... something like "now don't divorce me if we win this lottery"
Divorce can be scary and being alone again can be scary for many people. Many will stay in a bad marriage because they're too afraid to pull that band aid off and be alone.

I was scared myself - but I'll tell you something - the more time that goes on, the easier it is becoming for me to be alone. I am now getting used to it and it's actually quite nice! I enjoy my own company and have been enjoying the peace and solitude without my husband ruining every day for me.

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Divorce can be scary and being alone again can be scary for many people. Many will stay in a bad marriage because they're too afraid to pull that band aid off and be alone.

I was scared myself - but I'll tell you something - the more time that goes on, the easier it is becoming for me to be alone. I am now getting used to it and it's actually quite nice! I enjoy my own company and have been enjoying the peace and solitude without my husband ruining every day for me.
How long have you been divorced?

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How long have you been divorced?
I'm not divorced yet, it's in progress. We separated over 2 months ago and that's about how long I've been on my own. It's getting far easier with each day that passes!

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Right now I'm just trying to act like a good roommate. Confronting her doesn't work. I just want to live in peace as much as I can. Talking with her or doing things with her aren't much fun right now.

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I think that maybe this is someone you shouldn't stay together with, because it doesn't really sound like she truly has your best interests at heart, or cares very much about the marriage either.
But you can try talking with her about (whatever the problems are) first.
If I'm hearing you correctly then it sounds more as if she's the one who does not know how to fight fair.
I'm not sure if you're doing any similar things when fighting back, or not, but at the very least she probably needs counseling for *her* issues equally as much.
Maybe she should go to therapy or maybe you both should.
And I know that the following probably seems sort of obvious but have you tried a marriage counselor?
We've both said and done things that we regret. Some of the issues that are really getting to me now are the same issues I saw when we were dating. We did some couples counseling years ago, but it didn't help. I agree that she probably needs to own up and get some help for her issues... but I doubt that will ever happen. I'd be pleasantly surprised if it did happen, though.

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I'm not divorced yet, it's in progress. We separated over 2 months ago and that's about how long I've been on my own. It's getting far easier with each day that passes!
Do you have support from family/friends? A support group?

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Do you have support from family/friends? A support group?
Yes, I have a lot of support - friends, family, abuse forums and I have an abuse advocate too from a local domestic violence center.

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Default Dec 05, 2023 at 07:05 AM
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We've made a little progress. But it's still frustrating in that she says hurtful and/or controversial things and then refuses to talk about it, or suggests she didn't even say what I heard her say.

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Default Jan 25, 2024 at 01:10 PM
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And a little progress in that we're talking about boundaries and consequences. It's a 2-way street - I know I've done things that "crossed the line" from her point of view so she's telling me what her boundaries are and what the consequences will be if I violate them.

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