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berystrawberry
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Default Jan 07, 2004 at 12:41 PM
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Hi. This is my first time doing a forum so I'm new. I was hoping maybe you guys could help since I've exhausted a bunch of other resources. I was going to school at a christian university when they kicked me out, discovering I had a history with depression. My roomates had found some stuff in my journal and took it to a bunch of people. That was in August of 2002 and I am still not back in school. They started charging me for some of that semester and say I have to pay the full bill before they will release my transcript. They still have what they took from my journal also. I had just gotten out of the hospital a few months before and was doing great. I was making friends, had a great support system, and I was very excited about the coming semester, plus I was doing great in school. I had taken 16 hours in the summer and made 3 a's and 12 b. I did drop a class though. After that. I e=went back home where I have no friends and I can;t get out and do anything. I start getting really depressed and have already been hopsitalized once. I learned yesterday that they still won't release my transcripts, so I can't even get into community college. I have contacted ACLU, NMHA< and doctors at hospitals said they would get in contact with student advisors but no one has helped me. Any ideas?

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Default Jan 07, 2004 at 01:03 PM
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What did the school claim was their grounds for kicking you out? They can't do that on the basis of any disability, including depression. If that is true, then you need to get a lawyer and fight them.

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Default Jan 07, 2004 at 01:14 PM
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Bery,

I'm interested to know why your roommate took your journal and showed it to people. Was she worried about you and trying to get you some help? I'd like to think so, even though you said you were doing so much better! I would ask the school to tell you exactly why you were expelled. If it was because you have a history of depression, then I would suggest getting thee to a lawyer, post-haste!

(((((((Bery))))))))

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Default Jan 07, 2004 at 02:16 PM
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bery,

Welcome to the forums. Provided you can get the proof you need that the college dismissed you based on your history with depression, you have a solid case based on the Americans with Disabilities Act. I would make an appt with an attorney, maybe one of those free consultations, and find out what your rights actually are. I wouldn't be surprised in you didn't have a lawyer chomping at the bit to get their hands on this case.

I hope you'll check this out and let us know what you find out? And again, I'm glad you found us! There are great people here and we're glad to have you.

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Default Jan 07, 2004 at 02:17 PM
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I'm thinking there has to be more to this story. My boyfriend dropped out of college last year because of his depression, wrote a letter to the school notifying them of the reason for dropping out, and they refunded 100% of his money despite the fact that he was well past the drop/add period.

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Default Jan 07, 2004 at 03:07 PM
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I agree with Rapunzel 100%. I never heard of anyone getting kicked out of school because of depression, even people in treatment for various other mental disorders, unless there was some major disruption made by the student and then even that can be remediated. You definately need to get some legal advice.

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Default Jan 07, 2004 at 04:00 PM
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Can I say it too? Find out EXACTLY why they dismissed you and get a lawyer if necessary.

I can imagine some grey area if you did something disruptive on campus to have you kicked out. If the behavior was due to depression it would be worth a fight.

But to expel strictly because of a history of depression? That doesn't sound right at all, and if that is their reason I would find a lawyer.

Also to make you pay tuition when they kicked you out and you didn't do something disruptive to get yourself kicked out is entirely wrong. Seems to me if leaving school because they kicked you out then they also owe you your money back.

Good luck and please keep us posted!

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Default Jan 07, 2004 at 08:54 PM
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What a shame. It is said Christians are the only army that shoot their fellow soldiers in the back! Since you probably had to have a sponsor, perhaps a minister, write something supporting you for you to be accepted, why not go back to that person and ask for help?

Christian Universities respond to remorse, repentance, acceptance of deed done, etc. Hiring a lawyer should be last resort. There should be a mediation counsel with the University, made up of mature Christian adults. Appeal to someone other than the office workers, if you haven't already. The staff rarely have enough power to override their "standard rules."

Even if what you wrote in your journal, there is some expectation of privacy, especially in a Christian school, and perhaps there was an agreement you and your sister roomies signed regarding their actions.

And, you can ask your local church to pray about this for you, without telling them all the details. God knows your heart. He knows exactly where you are... and also what we don't know: why. Hang in there.


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Default Jan 08, 2004 at 01:35 PM
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From what you have said, it seems to me you have a problem that needs the help of an attorney to intervene.

Regarding your transcript, is the school accredited? Fighting for your transcript may be futile. The reason I ask is my daughter in law went to about 3 years of a Bible college then transfered to a state university. The bible college was not accredited by whoever does that and none of her credits transferred. She basically was screwed out of 3 years work and money.

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Default Jan 17, 2004 at 09:35 PM
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CALL AN ATTORNEY.

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Default Feb 09, 2004 at 06:21 PM
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Many wars are fought in the name of Christianity. Now I know why they do not have a place to post spirituality topics, although I belong to a nondenominational church that teaches God is love. It has been a source of inspiration for me. How well I remember the churches of my childhood. "you are a sinner the minute you are born, God will punish you.....??????????????

Anyway, I find what happened to be totally unbelievable. I'm right on about a lawyer. Assuming you have done nothing disruptive. Let us know what steps you are taking.

Skybark, your post is very well written and has a lot of good points.


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