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Old Oct 27, 2014, 08:19 PM
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What do you to get over the feeling of guilt or shame when you just spend the whole day in bed? I'm sure I easily could've spent several more hours sleeping, but I started feeling bad about it.
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Old Oct 27, 2014, 09:12 PM
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I was taught that guilt is healthy. It motivates you to do something about a behavior. Shame is when you internalize it and think you are a bad person because of it. Not healthy. If the guilt got you out if bed maybe that's good. If you think you are a horrible person for spending so much time in bed than not so good.

If you are severely depressed a lot of things you just can't help and have to cut yourself some slack. Acceptance and self foregiveness.

I often have to just let myself be depressed with the symptoms that go with it and accept myself as I am. While at the same time I am doing what I can to treat it. All kinds of treatment but often the treatment doesn't work.

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Old Oct 27, 2014, 10:11 PM
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I was taught that guilt is healthy. It motivates you to do something about a behavior. Shame is when you internalize it and think you are a bad person because of it. Not healthy. If the guilt got you out if bed maybe that's good. If you think you are a horrible person for spending so much time in bed than not so good.

If you are severely depressed a lot of things you just can't help and have to cut yourself some slack. Acceptance and self foregiveness.

I often have to just let myself be depressed with the symptoms that go with it and accept myself as I am. While at the same time I am doing what I can to treat it. All kinds of treatment but often the treatment doesn't work.

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Thank you for responding. I think it is the shame side that I need to work on more so than the guilt. Looking back at today, I don't think there's much I would have been able to do because of feeling so depressed, it's better I did just stay in bed and ride out the bad feelings.
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Old Oct 28, 2014, 02:20 PM
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I'm sure I easily could've spent several more hours sleeping...
How is your sleep in general? Are you getting enough sleep? Is the sleep you get restorative sleep?
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Old Oct 29, 2014, 12:45 PM
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How is your sleep in general? Are you getting enough sleep? Is the sleep you get restorative sleep?
Lately I've been oversleeping, 10-12 hrs, but it's been filled with weird dreams and nightmares, so I don't feel rested when I wake up.
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Old Oct 30, 2014, 08:19 AM
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For me the SSRI's like Prozac have always caused interrupted sleep. I dream like crazy and wake up every two to three hours. Have to get up for 5 or 10 minutes and then can go right back to sleep and dream like crazy again. I figured out I wasn't getting any stage 4 deep sleep which is what we really need. Its hard to know because depression messes up sleep too. I really hate to take a med to solve a side effect but I take Remeron for sleep and it has worked great. I have tried trazadone, nyquil, ambien, and nothing has worked as good as remeron. I get very good sleep with it and don't feel hungover or anything. safer than benzo's or ambien.
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Remeron 30mg for sleep
Klonopin .5mg twice a day, cutting this back
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Old Oct 30, 2014, 03:19 PM
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...I don't feel rested when I wake up.
That is its own problem. Consider talking to your doctor(s) about trying to get better quality sleep.
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