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Trig Jan 16, 2016 at 12:17 AM
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Ive decided i don't really fancy suicide all that much in two months i don't know if I can stop myself but i don't want to die i don't know what changed and it still scares me thinking my parents are going to die but ive thought what if my next attempt is successful? and i want to turn myself in but im scared they won't take me seriously without attempting and im scared ill just act crazy and be injected with anti psychotic drugs cause i have a hard time controling myself in hospitals so i don't know what to do

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Default Jan 16, 2016 at 05:22 AM
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It sounds like you're in a really bad spot. I'm sorry you're struggling so much.

It also sounds like you can't keep yourself safe right now, or you're worried you're going to hurt yourself. Call 911, go to the ER, tell your parents or another trusted, responsible adult.

If you go to the ER and tell them you're feeling suicidal and that you have a plan and the means and intention to carry it out, by law they have to admit you. If you're worried you're going to act "crazy", can you bring something that will make you feel more secure? A favorite blanket, pillow, stuffed animal, a book to read, journal to write in, a friend, one of your parents? Or when you get there, after you tell them what's going on, you can ask for a pill to help calm you down, before things get out of control.

Don't let worrying about what other people are going to think prevent you from getting the help you need. You're in a dangerous place and you need professional help now. Please go to the ER or call 911.

Let us know how things go. Take care of yourself.
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Hi passion, their job is to help you before you make an attempt. Tell them how you feel, they will take you seriously. It sounds like you really want some help but are afraid that making the call for help won't go well. Please make the call or go to the ER, there are people who can help you.

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Hi passion, their job is to help you before you make an attempt. Tell them how you feel, they will take you seriously. It sounds like you really want some help but are afraid that making the call for help won't go well. Please make the call or go to the ER, there are people who can help you.
You don't understand I'm constantly there so much so they don't take anything seriously I've been sent home after major overdose I put a bag over my head to try and suffocate myself in the er I was still sent home I have a hard time expressing verbally what I want so I act out in hopes the'll know I want something I don't know how to handle this problem

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Default Jan 17, 2016 at 02:22 PM
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I wish I had an answer for you!!

Have you read up on success stories of people who have a history of self harming and how they were able to overcome?

Have you been traumatized as a child? There is a newer therapy called EMDR used on people who experienced trauma in their life (so much of it from childhood abuse). If interested, there is a book "The Body Keeps The Score" by Bessel van der Kolk. There is an online directory of professionals who have received EMDR training.
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I have suffered trauma as a child I was abused and touched inappropriately how exactly is ever different from other therapies? I hate my therapist and I don't think she does it I would need a new therapist how do I find a therapist that does it

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EMDR = Eye Movement Desentization and Reprocessing therapy.

I guess I would say EMDR is more of an active/physical therapy, not a talk therapy. The therapist has you literally do specific eye movements while you are recalling you trauma. Apparently, you don't even have to discuss the specifics of your trauma, but go through a very specific set of motions. This therapy was discovered quite accidently in the 1990s by Francine Shapiro.

So, summarizng van der Kolk, the author of the book I mentioned (and I know I will not do it justice):
- You experience a trauma (abuse for example).
- You experience fight-or-flight response (also called the fight, flight, freeze, or fawn response [in PTSD], hyperarousal, or the acute stress response) is a physiological reaction that occurs in response to a perceived harmful event, attack, or threat to survival
- Your fight-or-flight instinct is controlled by the deepest of 3 sections of your brain (called the reptilian section or reptilian brain) - I cut-and-paste as follows:
Humans have 3 independent yet interconnected sections in our brain:
1) The Reptilian section 2) The Limbic section & 3) The Neo-cortex section.
The Reptilian section (1) is the instant (no discernment) ‘survival mode’ response section of the brain. It is the oldest in terms of our human evolution, ‘The Old Brain’, The Reptilian Brain.
The Limbic section (2) is the section of the brain that first emerged in Mammals. It generates our feelings and emotions in regard to our current reality.
The Neo-cortex section (3) is the Neo-Mammalian section of the brain, the evolved section of higher order thinking. It generates creation, manifestation, imagination, awareness, development, logical thinking, objectivity, empathy and most importantly: consciousness
- You could neither fight nor give flight; you and your reptilian brain are trapped.
- You develop PTSD.
- PTSD goes deep and registers with the reptilian brain.
- Talk therapy engages the neocortex.
- Reptilian brain trumps the neocortex. Just because you consciously know the immediate danger (abuse) happened in the past does not mean your reptilian brain gets it. It keeps reacting.
- EMDR somehow engages the reptilian brain so that the trauma is processed and the continued mental suffering is alleviated.

You can find out more at http://www.emdr.com/. Poke around the site and you will find a link that sends you to a directory of EMDR professionals throughout the US and foreign countries. But I have to say that I really, really recommend the van der Kolk’s book – he really understands childhood trauma (as well as PTSD in general.) The book could be triggering for some as he does not sugar-coat some of his patient experiences. Which is a reason I love the book all the more – finally someone is willing to just say it like it is.

About treatment, relief can be pretty quick. It’s not one where you see the therapist just every couple of weeks or every month or so. I haven’t had an opportunity to explore the therapy myself, but it is on my To Do list.

I know you don’t want to kill or harm yourself. It's your way of seeking relief from the intense pain you carry over from your abuse. I am so truly sorry you had to go through such horrid experiences. You are by no means alone. Are you being heard? Really heard?

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Default Jan 19, 2016 at 11:30 AM
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I'm constantly there so much so they don't take anything seriously I've been sent home after major overdose I put a bag over my head to try and suffocate myself in the er I was still sent home I have a hard time expressing verbally what I want so I act out in hopes the'll know I want something I don't know how to handle this problem
Acting out that way tends to push people away because they don't know how to cope with the behaviors. What do you want to tell them when you act out? How do you want people to help? Asking without acting out will almost always yield better results.

Have you ever tried DBT? It is indicated for your problems.

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