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Default Aug 22, 2007 at 03:55 PM
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I have been impressed with many of the genuinely empathic responses on this forum. Most supportive responses sound like they really know the feeling of depression. So, do I because I have talked to and treated thousands of depressed people.

I have written a long chapter on Depression in my book (see the link below.) I hope it is helpful. There are many sources of help--therapy, groups, readings, friends and caring loved ones. If you can think of important ways to reduce the awful feelings of depression, please share your wisdom and personal experiences with me directly or on the Sharing Self-Help Ideas forum.

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I'm sorry, but "talking to and treating thousands of depressed people" and being depressed yourself are two entirely different things. You can be empathic all you want, but you can't get it unless you've been through it, and it's wrong to say you understand if all you've done is listen to other people talk about it. It's like trying to say you understand what it's like to give birth just from having watched videos of it.

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I found the Depression Fallout Message Board very helpful. It focuses on helping the family and love ones of people suffering from depression. It was from there that I learned a lot about depression and prompted me to seek help for myself. I've also read Anne Sheffield's Depression Fallout Book and thought it was great.
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Candybear, she is a sufferer herself and I liked that about the book.

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I'm sorry, but "talking to and treating thousands of depressed people" and being depressed yourself are two entirely different things. You can be empathic all you want, but you can't get it unless you've been through it, and it's wrong to say you understand if all you've done is listen to other people talk about it. It's like trying to say you understand what it's like to give birth just from having watched videos of it.
I realize that this is an old post but I just had to say something. This is the best response I have read anywhere.

I have gone through years of depression and I can't even describe it here. I attempted suicide years ago. Without thinking of anything. And it was such an easy decision to make at the time.

I have heard of several different successful suicides by people that I did not know. After the news gets out people say that they understand the grief that this person must have felt or they say that there is no way that things could have been that bad. I even heard someone say how selfish this act is. They just do not get it. I deal with it every day again and no one can say they understand it if they have not been through it.

I have never been treated. I have never seen a doctor. Never even talked to anyone about it. But I can feel it. And I know what it is like.

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I'm sorry, but "talking to and treating thousands of depressed people" and being depressed yourself are two entirely different things. You can be empathic all you want, but you can't get it unless you've been through it, and it's wrong to say you understand if all you've done is listen to other people talk about it. It's like trying to say you understand what it's like to give birth just from having watched videos of it.
I can understand, but I think if the therapist or doctor actually believes you and is trying to understand it makes a difference.
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I'm sorry, but "talking to and treating thousands of depressed people" and being depressed yourself are two entirely different things. You can be empathic all you want, but you can't get it unless you've been through it, and it's wrong to say you understand if all you've done is listen to other people talk about it. It's like trying to say you understand what it's like to give birth just from having watched videos of it.


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That is the Truth. I have tried to place myself in someone else's place But until I am in that situation I will not understand.
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Dear Dr. Clay,
I believe that we are all devinely led to the right place at the right time. I have been feeling quite depressed for some time now and through this channel was led to your book. I have scanned over it and read some areas. I believe it will help me to self-help myself and plan to study it. I just wanted to thank you for being my Angel today by posting your book on this site.
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Depression Forum:

I have been impressed with many of the genuinely empathic responses on this forum. Most supportive responses sound like they really know the feeling of depression. So, do I because I have talked to and treated thousands of depressed people.

I have written a long chapter on Depression in my book (see the link below.) I hope it is helpful. There are many sources of help--therapy, groups, readings, friends and caring loved ones. If you can think of important ways to reduce the awful feelings of depression, please share your wisdom and personal experiences with me directly or on the Sharing Self-Help Ideas forum.

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"How could you not bow in front of such a human being (Dr. Clay Tucker-Ladd)! This is a great work, done by a brilliant mind, with deep ideas that point to a better humanity and to a better person. But it’s not only that. I found outstanding the idea of UPDATING, improving the knowledge that was transmitted by the book - “Psychological Self-Help”- after refining the new discoveries, validated by time and experts in the field, through the great experience of the author. I wish to see that done in any field; now that Internet and thoughtful-to-the-best-of-all-and-brilliant people allow us to have access to their achieved-and-enhanced knowledge.

Achievements and knowledge without soul means nothing to me! But reading from the book (work) and applying the advice there, reading Dr. Clay’s biography that shows his determination in helping others; it is lifting my mood and “increasing my serotonin” more than any pill or advice! J Am I bipolar or something? I don’t think so! But I think a little help in having a better assessment now would be desired! It’s not the first time I wonder how crazy I am and in what regard…!
And how can I not be excited, when I see such great people still existing! I felt the same when learning about Einstein, Stephen Hawking (Usually I write his name with an –s, even though I have seen it so many times. Probably I need a “-s” to express his many dimensions development J as a human being), and from the Brancatan (co.uk) site or Andrew Vachss’ site or other great people that I love, admire for works and attitude like a person during their life. Too bad Mendeleev (oh, my God, WORD heard about… Mendeleev! “That was amazing!” Shall I check if they heard about Mangele too? Maybe it’s better not to! He wanted to be remembered as a brilliant mind no matter how much harm he did! And for that reason better not to be added, not even like an EVIL example!) We still have the dynamic “periodic table of elements” wonderful site as an updated, enchanted work of Mendeleev, connected to Wikipedia!
I wonder if Dr. Clay’s work COULD, and WOULD be transformed in something similar in every-day or self-help psychology science."

As a "Thank You" I just copied from my journal (I like to call it my Red Book :-)) I am sure Dr. Clay will understand my homage.
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I have been impressed with many of the genuinely empathic responses on this forum. Most supportive responses sound like they really know the feeling of depression. So, do I because I have talked to and treated thousands of depressed people.

I have written a long chapter on Depression in my book (see the link below.) I hope it is helpful. There are many sources of help--therapy, groups, readings, friends and caring loved ones. If you can think of important ways to reduce the awful feelings of depression, please share your wisdom and personal experiences with me directly or on the Sharing Self-Help Ideas forum.

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