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Mar 21, 2017, 12:08 PM
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Particularly for those who receive minimal "help" from the professionals...
Can I genuinely shame myself into greater endurance or patience  Others can, and have, "shamed" me into silence (Thanks to the author for this quote  )Also, I believe shame can be, and often is, a killer ... toxic shame 
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Mar 21, 2017, 12:28 PM
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Quote:
 I know it is hard but you should not be ashamed. You have a right to complain because you have been wronged--you do not need to silent about what you have endured ever! 
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Mar 22, 2017, 03:51 AM
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"Shame", how'd you know my middle name?
It took a lot for me to trust a professional, again Fuzzy. Sometimes, I still question it and I still shut down. I still dial the number and debate whether to hit the button, call and say I cancel all future appointments. My 'trust' is very, very limited and very fragile, anymore with anyone, especially towards those in the mental health field. I didn't even endure all of what you did by professionals, either. I wish I had advice on how to gain security back in regards to docs. I don't. (((Fuzzy)))
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Mar 22, 2017, 11:39 AM
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I am shocked at how many professionals are paid to shame patients.
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Mar 22, 2017, 12:29 PM
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In fact, Fuzzy, we should not be seen as "patients" but as "clients" (or customers)
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Mar 22, 2017, 12:30 PM
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Sorry, I do not want to lecture you, but the doctors here
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Clara Hope is definitely not the same thing as optimism. It is not the conviction that something will turn out well, but the certainty that something makes sense, regardless of how it turns out. Vaclav Havel |
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Mar 22, 2017, 01:49 PM
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Some boxes of breakfast cereal feature pictures of outstanding athletes. Suppose I were to eat such a cereal for years and not become an outstanding athlete. Would berating myself for not being a great athlete despite consistently eating the cereal make me better at sports? Would self-generated shame even serve as an effective motivation to continue eating the cereal? Would it not be more rational to question the efficacy of the cereal?
I am glad for those whose compliance in therapy has resulted in their complete recovery from depression. (But I wonder what the true statistics might be.) Berating myself for not being helped by the same methods is not going to make those methods more effective for me. Is it not more rational - provided I retain some rationality - to reevaluate the methods? Quote:
 
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