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Trig May 11, 2017 at 01:47 PM
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My shame started with being "wrong" and "failing" to be born "properly"..

The mother stopped pushing.. she shut down (maybe ambivalent about giving birth or already regretting ..)

I was "taken out" with forceps, I was "taken away" to a "special" ward or something..

This would not have helped with bonding..

"Bonding" was sub optimal throughout childhood and at a certain age I realised .. how much I "should be ashamed" ..how the family was not a "close family" - more so than I had realised..

This bear was "shunned"

And I internalised all the messages of

"Fuzzybear is...

Bad
Evil
Always wrong
Not good enough
Failure
Guilty (always.. no matter what I did or didn't do)
Ugly
Worthless
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Please don't tell me that all parents do the best they can..


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Trig May 11, 2017 at 02:04 PM
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((((((( Fuzzybear! )))))))

Some parents eat their children.

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Default May 11, 2017 at 02:06 PM
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"Failing to be born properly" oh fuzzy, that was never ever your fault. You shouldn't feel any shame about that. And if you have been told otherwise then that person is very very wrong..

That list of messages, none of those are true either. You are such a kind, loving friendly bear, and I'm honoured to call you my friend.

And Iwould never say that about parents. Parents do what suits them best while pretending it's best for everyone.

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Default May 11, 2017 at 02:41 PM
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My shame started with being "wrong" and "failing" to be born "properly"..

The mother stopped pushing.. she shut down (maybe ambivalent about giving birth or already regretting ..)

I was "taken out" with forceps, I was "taken away" to a "special" ward or something..

This would not have helped with bonding..

"Bonding" was sub optimal throughout childhood and at a certain age I realised .. how much I "should be ashamed" ..how the family was not a "close family" - more so than I had realised..

This bear was "shunned"

And I internalised all the messages of

"Fuzzybear is...

Bad
Evil
Always wrong
Not good enough
Failure
Guilty (always.. no matter what I did or didn't do)
Ugly
Worthless
Dirty





Please don't tell me that all parents do the best they can..

(((((bear)))))) I can relate ,I was never allowed to forget that she nearly died having me ,an I was a nightmare baby who cried too much ect ect ,'our crimes ' have been branded into our brains for so long we have come to believe them but that doesn't make them true .

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Default May 11, 2017 at 02:45 PM
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But we see you as...
Brilliant
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Always wonderful
Naturally generous & embracing
Friendly
Gorgeous
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Default May 11, 2017 at 02:56 PM
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fuzzy it is good that you are talking more about your feelings of shame...you can say whatever you want...we need to share our pain
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Default May 11, 2017 at 03:20 PM
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Right there with you, (((((Fuzzybear)))))

My mother told me how big and fat I was in the incubator compared to all the tiny preemies

(I was born with a blood disorder and had to have my blood exchanged - 13 transfusions in all)
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Default May 12, 2017 at 11:56 AM
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But we see you as...
Brilliant
Enigmatic
Always wonderful
Naturally generous & embracing
Friendly
Gorgeous
Unique
Worth It
Deserving

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And I totally agree with this

I don't know how and when the pain will fade, maybe the suffering will be lessened when we open up and let the pain out, but it's not your fault if you can't. You already talking about it, this is what kills the toxic shame, to be let out, because inside us it's like poison. So, let it out and talk hovewer much you need. Or, just scream it out. Or cry it out.
And it's not your fault, just know that.
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But we see you as...
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I agree wholeheartedly...
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Default May 13, 2017 at 11:19 AM
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Hi Fuzzy

You're not convincing us that excuse for "faulty" parents!!!
And as you know, I say that there are no excuses

Apart from, in no way was that your fault..........some other parents may develop even more of a bond with their child after a birth like that........having the worries/the fears, the "What if............"s, truely realising how fragile and precious theiir child is at that moment...........bringing out the caring instincts etc..........and the experience and recovery can even help them value their child even more than they may have.

Your parents were "faulty", and every negative thing they told you about yourself was "faulty" because we know that you are none of those things.
Fuzzy, you really have none of that to be ashamed about, the shame should lie with them

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