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Oct 11, 2018 at 01:07 PM
#121
“No confidence. Perceives as problem”
This is part of the notes written during a spectacularly unhelpful “consultation” I didn’t say I had NO confidence. But if I had....how could that NOT be a “problem” 
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Oct 11, 2018 at 01:18 PM
#122
How could skin lesions on a pretty young bear NOT impact bear’s life.
   Or skin lesions on anyone.
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Oct 11, 2018 at 01:51 PM
#123
Everything is fine..
****ed up Insecure Neurotic Empathic 
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Oct 11, 2018 at 02:26 PM
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 I guess I'm "F.I.N.E." too. Little Turtle, if you manage to wean completely off the Celexa, would you then not be taking any psychotropics? __________________ My dog  mastered the "fetch" command. He would communicate he wanted something, and I would fetch it.
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Oct 11, 2018 at 02:37 PM
#125
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Oct 11, 2018 at 03:07 PM
#126
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Oct 11, 2018 at 03:14 PM
#127
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rohag I only take celexa every day regular... no other psych drugs... but if I get too scared I take a little valium... |
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Oct 12, 2018 at 07:35 AM
#128
i have a mental illness...I have had a serious problem in my life..
I am ashamed...I lay the stigma on myself...others take me down... but I take me down....it is changing...I hope for the better... I am starting to speak up to my wife...she doesn't believe I have a MI.. with my wife I am no longer going to be ashamed or blamed or taken down.. |
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Oct 12, 2018 at 08:33 AM
#129
I am going to take the DSM5 and throw it in the trash can...
and then I will get on the AS IS bus... I am sick of all the labels put on us... |
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Oct 12, 2018 at 08:42 AM
#130
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Have you read any Dorothy Rowe? I may have mentioned her before. Where is the as is bus going today? __________________
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Oct 12, 2018 at 08:44 AM
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It sounds to me like your wife may have a “diagnosis” - like my PUS ... all that blame and shame they try to put on us. Grrrrrrrr
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Oct 12, 2018 at 04:56 PM
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thanks fuzzy... I am going to look up Dorothy rowe... |
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Oct 13, 2018 at 04:11 AM
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 (((((( little turtle )))))) Good for you! We can benefit from learning to be more assertive. Sometimes, at least in the beginning, changing a pattern of interaction can be scary and can generate more anxiety. However, it's usually worth it to change hurtful patterns of interactions with those closest to us. It takes courage! I hope you benefit greatly!  WC __________________ May we each fully claim the courage to live from our hearts, to allow Love, Faith and Hope to enLighten our paths.
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Oct 13, 2018 at 05:20 AM
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Oct 13, 2018 at 09:28 AM
#135
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fuzzy---I listened to Dorothy Rowe....I am ordering 2 of her books... I want to read about some of her ideas...I like what she is saying.. |
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Oct 13, 2018 at 10:22 AM
#136
Dorothy Rowe is a very interesting psychologist...
and I just listened to the 19 min ted talk by Kristin Neff on the space between self-esteem and self-compassion... it was very good.....I have very low self esteem...I lost my self-esteem in psychiatry....I was sick and so was psychiatry.. I need to be on the AS IS bus |
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Oct 13, 2018 at 10:29 AM
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I need to be on the AS IS bus where people don’t blame others and ignore the Truth That therapist felt threatened when I mentioned Dorothy Rowe. She doesn’t believe in tossing out ugly, inaccurate, stigmatising labels I can play that labelling game too  He is psychol. NPD ....
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Oct 14, 2018 at 06:16 AM
#138
this morning with my wife....
I am paying attention to what she is saying about me... I am paying attention to critical and blame comments... I am trying to point these out without getting angry... this is very hard for me...I am very angry at my wife... not for what she is thinking but what she is saying... |
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Oct 14, 2018 at 08:53 AM
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I have also been listening to Dorothy Rowe. Thank you to those who have mentioned this lady. She talks of Hot and Cold Anger. This has left me to think quite hard about anger. I have to admit to hot anger when triggered by abusive situations and people. I wish I had more control. My fight and flight responses seems to kick in, it seems. Anyone had any success catching themselves before talking or shouting with so much emotion? |
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Oct 14, 2018 at 12:43 PM
#140
Hot and cold anger, I hadn’t heard of that.. I haven’t read much Dorothy Rowe for a while.
I have difficulty sometimes with PTSD “fight” types / NPD who accuse others of all sorts of stuff that in fact belongs in the “family” of origin, and not in the “object” of their rage Step maternal unit specialises in that. Eff her 
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