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Default Jan 22, 2021 at 08:37 AM
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[QUOTE=Thirty shades;7014224]“You find peace not by rearranging the circumstances of your life, but by realizing who you are at the deepest level.” by Eckhart Tolle

that is interesting TS....that deepest level for me is idk
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I just deleted a message grrrrrrr.

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Can you say more about the deepest level for you being idk, little turtle?

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Can you say more about the deepest level for you being idk, little turtle?
fuzzy i just don't know....maybe something about my panic attack #1......
something about that awful dread/terror at night...
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at night...
"At night." That was the time of the attack? Was/is the nighttime significant?

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My brain speaks to my deepest level at night through my dreams/nightmares.
I don't always know what has been said.

The panic speaks when I wake. It can continue all day.

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"At night." That was the time of the attack? Was/is the nighttime significant?
thanks rohag...my #1 panic attack was in the day with a group of doctors...
now the dread comes at night...what do you think...
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My brain speaks to my deepest level at night through my dreams/nightmares.
I don't always know what has been said.

The panic speaks when I wake. It can continue all day.

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TS----can you say anything now about your deepest level
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my night-time dread -------------------
may have to do with fear of dying or going crazy
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TS----can you say anything now about your deepest level
There is a lot of fear.

I feel powerless, many have brought me down.

My body is ready for danger.
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my #1 panic attack was in the day with a group of doctors ...
what do you think
That number one attack happened in a significant social, professional, public setting. It makes sense to me it would have an important and possibly long-lasting impact.

Little Turtle, I don't know what to think. My experience is different. My most difficult moments, sometimes accompanied by intrusive memories, can occur at any time of day or night. I cannot discern a pattern. They are not confined to nighttime.

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i think i have more trouble with anxiety/fear than depression...
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i think i have more trouble with anxiety/fear than depression...
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I think that...
maybe...
it is difficult...
to disentangle anxiety from depression.

With more confidence I can say in my case depression and anxiety are so mingled it is nearly impossible to consider them separately. I feel the distinction, but I do not live it.

It might be valuable for clinicians to consider whether or not a patient suffers from both and, if so, develop tailored protocols for such.

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I think that...
maybe...
it is difficult...
to disentangle anxiety from depression.

With more confidence I can say in my case depression and anxiety are so mingled it is nearly impossible to consider them separately. I feel the distinction, but I do not live it.

It might be valuable for clinicians to consider whether or not a patient suffers from both and, if so, develop tailored protocols for such.
wow rohag...what good thoughts
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i think i have more trouble with anxiety/fear than depression...
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I think Rohag is right. the two are closely linked.

Anxiety/panic are my primary problem which brings on the depression.

I feel there is also a chicken and the egg problem to solve...

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dear fuzzy...i just had a thought about you...
when i first came on this depression forum...
i saw a fuzzy bear dancing /shaking in a hula outfit...
i said to myself this is a really good person...that is you
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dear fuzzy...i just had a thought about you...
when i first came on this depression forum...
i saw a fuzzy bear dancing /shaking in a hula outfit...
i said to myself this is a really good person...that is you
Dear little turtle,
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With more confidence I can say in my case depression and anxiety are so mingled it is nearly impossible to consider them separately. I feel the distinction, but I do not live it.

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Good post

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I think Rohag is right. the two are closely linked.

Anxiety/panic are my primary problem which brings on the depression.

I feel there is also a chicken and the egg problem to solve...

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