Confessions of little turtle with love #7

Fuzzybear · Mar 20, 2023 at 07:46 AM

Grrrr…….

Rohag · Mar 20, 2023 at 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by little turtle

my psychiatrist has retired...i have seen him for over 25 years...

Wow.
I wish you as easy a transition as possible.

I have had many providers over the years.
Continuity of care has been ... challenging.
(Continuity of care has rested on my shoulders. Early on, I did not realize that would be the case.)

Fuzzybear · Mar 22, 2023 at 03:23 AM

Calla lily12 · Mar 22, 2023 at 07:15 AM

Losing your T after so many years is terribly hard.
I hope whomever you do find will help you with benzos. I must have told you but my memory is horrible. Years ago I was taking 100 mg of Valium a day.(my doctor said it was fine..) I don't know how, but I got off of it by myself after a massive od. Is there some herbal thing that might make it easier. I'm thinking of you, little turtle.

little turtle · Mar 22, 2023 at 05:48 PM

thanks for all your kindness...

Fuzzybear · Mar 26, 2023 at 09:50 AM

I’ve just been listening to 20 Minute Guided Meditation with Jon Kabat-Zinn.

little turtle · Mar 26, 2023 at 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

I’ve just been listening to 20 Minute Guided Meditation with Jon Kabat-Zinn.

he is my guy...

Fuzzybear · Mar 28, 2023 at 10:53 AM

Fuzzybear · Mar 28, 2023 at 11:12 AM

I was told by an ''expert'' irl that I ''can function on 2 to 3 hours sleep''

Any thoughts from the bus people?

The ''expert'' tried to mess with my meds and used scare tactics

Fuzzybear · Mar 28, 2023 at 11:36 AM

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Fuzzybear · Mar 28, 2023 at 11:43 AM

Confessions of little turtle with love #7

Rohag · Mar 28, 2023 at 02:35 PM

This got my attention quickly due to a long personal history of difficulties:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

I was told by an ''expert'' irl that I ''can function on 2 to 3 hours sleep''

Fuzzybear, was the "expert" referencing self or you? Did your "expert" offer you any supporting evidence for that assertion? "Function" - how well?

I did a simple search on "optimum sleep duration" in Pub Med Central and got 6133 results. Here's a 2018 article from the Nature and Science of Sleep journal: Sleeping hours: what is the ideal number and how does age impact this?

The authors use cautious language.

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However, the ideal amount of sleep required each night can vary between different individuals due to genetic factors and other reasons, and it is important to adapt our recommendations on a case-by-case basis. Sleep duration recommendations (public health approach) are well suited to provide guidance at the population-level standpoint, while advice at the individual level (eg, in clinic) should be individualized to the reality of each person.

That said, they observe in this "narrative review paper":

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Sleep duration recommendations have ranges, or zones of optimal sleep, suggesting that the relationship between sleep duration and adverse health outcomes is U-shaped, with both extremities, sleep durations that are too short or too long, associated with negative effects on health.47–51 There is a large body of evidence providing biological plausibility for short sleep as causally related to a wide range of adverse health outcomes; however, the role of long sleep is less clear. Aside from the elderly population, long sleep [≥ 9 hours - definition from other studies, Rohag] is generally associated with other health problems (eg, depression, chronic pain, low socioeconomic status) that can confound the associations.55,56 Reverse causation and residual confounding are thus better mechanisms to explain the associations between long sleep and adverse health outcomes.55,56 This may explain why the American Academy of Sleep Medicine and the Sleep Research Society recommends a threshold value for adults (≥7 hours per night) rather than a range (eg, 7–9 hours per night) (Table 1). However, excessive long sleep duration may be informative as it can be indicative of poor sleep efficiency (ie, spending a lot of time in bed but of low quality).

Fuzzybear · Mar 29, 2023 at 06:50 AM

How do you deal with haters?

Fuzzybear · Mar 30, 2023 at 09:22 AM

Rohag · Mar 30, 2023 at 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

How do you deal with haters?

How would Little Turtle deal with haters?
I cannot speak for Little Turtle. I hope Little Turtle has effective approaches.

As for me, for better and for worse, I recoil from personal confrontation.
When I encounter a hater, I disengage.

Regrettably, haters (and others) occupy my memory long after disengagement.

Fuzzybear · Apr 01, 2023 at 02:47 AM

Fuzzybear · Apr 01, 2023 at 07:06 PM

Little turtle?

Fuzzybear · Apr 01, 2023 at 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Rohag

How would Little Turtle deal with haters?
I cannot speak for Little Turtle. I hope Little Turtle has effective approaches.

As for me, for better and for worse, I recoil from personal confrontation.
When I encounter a hater, I disengage.

Regrettably, haters (and others) occupy my memory long after disengagement.

Rohag

Thirty shades · Apr 02, 2023 at 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

I was told by an ''expert'' irl that I ''can function on 2 to 3 hours sleep''

Any thoughts from the bus people?

The ''expert'' tried to mess with my meds and used scare tactics

Scaring another to do something they feel uncomfortable with sounds like abuse to me

Self love = looking after yourself and your needs

Does anyone on the bus have useful ways to self love?

Perhaps speaking the truth and making decisions that are right for us could be a start....

Sending hugs dear Fuzzybear

Thirty shades · Apr 02, 2023 at 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzzybear

How do you deal with haters?

Not very well...

I tend to go in my cave and ruminate.

The only advice (not helpful to me though) was being told it will pass...

Not sure what is worse the pain or my thoughts being out of my control?

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