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Old Jun 02, 2012, 11:53 AM
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Thank You! Thank You!

I want to say thank you so much for reading and responding to my previous post “DID is up for removal , please read.” I am sorry if we scared anyone but those that posted were very scared within me. For most of my life, I and those within me have gotten little to no help from the mental health community. I did have a wonderful therapist that I paid for out of pocket but all the state health insurance groups just wanted to medicate me and forget about me.

Now is the time for those with DID to speak out and make sure that we flood the DSM groups that we are real and that we are just now getting the help we need to recover from childhood trauma. The link below is the thread we started before , in post 8 is a copy of the letter available at the igdid link.

http://forums.psychcentral.com/showthread.php?t=231427


At this site is a form that all you have to do is give a name and an email address. You can say if you are a client, supporter, family, and therapist. And give a personal comment if you choice to.

http://www.igdid.com/h226-apa

This is the address of the letter of intent that was found online. Please read !

http://socrates.berkeley.edu/~kihlstrm/DissDisMaster.htm

This is the DSM site that you can reply to any of your concerns in person.

http://www.dsm5.org/Pages/Default.aspx
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Old Jun 03, 2012, 11:11 AM
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Anderson your vigilence is appreciated. It takes courage to step out and your bravery has not gone unnoticed. Thank you for caring about the greater good and for your very good intentions. There cannot be anything taken for granted and there is much gratitude in my heart for you.
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Old Jun 03, 2012, 11:12 AM
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Most of the FMS forums are closed but this letter was found and was asked to post it on other forums please read it is what we are facing in the upp comming years as those that are healing and coming forward to heal.

if possible copy the info and email it to your Therapist , Pdocs, or any other surport system. This not meant to scare those here but to educate and gather those together to see to our continued healing.

The Petition

DID is an extremely controversial diagnosis, and while I do not agree with it, the petition makes an extremely strong case against the diagnosis. In the service of promoting better understanding of the debate, which has at least three sides, I quote from the petition below (those who originally wrote the document asked recipients to circulate it freely).

The evidence supporting this diagnosis as a distinct mental disorder is modest whereas much suggests it to be a behavioral artifact equivalent in nature to pseudo-epilepsy generated by suggestion in vulnerable people. Its identification as a special, separate diagnostic entity in DSM has harmed the practice of psychiatry and undermined its scientific credibility. Although it is important for us to provide evidence to support these statements, we wish to avoid excessive detail, given that such evidence has been documented widely in the published literature.

Origins

The notion of dual personalities was founded upon cases of bipolar illness (1) and was followed by the idea of extra personalities. This expansion first occurred with the hypnotically-induced introduction of a second personality and the deliberate naming of those personalities as if they were separate entities (1).

Prevalence

Taylor and Martin (2) recognized a total of 76 cases occurring between 1816 and 1944�slightly more than one every two years; they thought a similar number might be unreported. In 1954 Thigpen and Cleckley (3) reported their case, which was published as �The Three Faces of Eve� in 1957. After a film was made of this case, the numbers of reported cases increased steadily; there was a further dramatic leap after the film of �Sybil�. By 1990 thousands of cases were being diagnosed; some authors identified more cases in their personal practices than had been described in the literature over an entire century.

Twentieth Century Suggestion

As is well known, Sybil, a patient of Dr. Cornelia Wilbur, was fully aware that her therapist wanted her to create extra personalities (4). In 1973, Dr. Wilbur gave tape recordings of Sybil�s interviews to Schreiber [the journalist who reported Sybil as a case of multiple personality disorder (5)]. Schreiber made the recordings available to Ronald Rieber, a professor of psychology, who amassed evidence showing that at least some of the personalities were artifacts overtly created in treatment (6).

Etiology

Dissociative Identity Disorder is often alleged to result from repressing an experience of childhood sexual abuse. This claim has not received adequate scientific validation. For example, Piper and Merskey (7) reviewed all the studies that claimed to corroborate DID patients� abuse recollections. These authors concluded that �no evidence supports the claim that DID patients as a group have actually experienced the traumas asserted by the disorder�s proponents� (7).

Proponents of the DID diagnosis assert that horrific, repeated childhood physical and sexual abuse is the primary cause of DID. Victims supposedly develop their multiple personalities as repositories for traumatic memories that the �host� personality is unable to tolerate consciously. The DID diagnosis thus relies on the concept of traumatic Dissociative Amnesia (DA or �repression�): the notion that the mind protects itself by banishing terrifying memories from awareness, rendering them inaccessible until the person feels psychologically safe to recall them, often years later. There is no convincing evidence that victims can become incapable of recalling genuinely traumatic experiences, as the trauma theory of DID requires (8). Indeed, an extensive survey of the historical literature, including both fictional and non-fictional written works in multiple languages, found no written example of �dissociative amnesia� prior to 1786 (9). Thus the notion of �repressing� a memory itself, like DID, appears to represent a recent culture-bound phenomenon, rather than a naturally occurring human psychological process.

In a comprehensive analysis of studies of people with documented trauma histories, not a single mention of spontaneous amnesia for the traumatic event was found�unless the forgetting was attributable to either organic amnesia or childhood amnesia (10). Finally, an examination of Freud�s original work gives reason to think that the evidence from psychoanalysis for repression is also very unsatisfactory (11, 12).

Harmful Effects

Due to the assumption that trauma is a primary etiological factor, the DID diagnosis has resulted in wrongful accusations of sexual abuse on the basis of recovered memories, not only in North America but throughout the developed world (references). DID has caused mockery of psychiatry, and, for patients, has led to misdiagnosis (13), mismanagement (14) and inadequate treatment of depression (15).

Lack of Consensus

Canadian and American psychiatrists show little consensus regarding the diagnostic status and scientific validity of DID. In surveys of board-certified psychiatrists in the United States (16) and Canada (17) fewer than one-third of Canadian psychiatrists and 35% of American psychiatrists replied that DA & DID should be included without reservations in the DSM-IV; fewer than 1 in 7 Canadian psychiatrists and only 21-23% of American psychiatrists replied that there was �strong evidence of validity� for these disorders. French- and English-speaking Canadians had similar opinions.

Conclusions

There are overwhelming reasons to question the validity of Dissociative Identity Disorder. We respectfully urge you as members of the Work Group and the Task Force to drop the category of dissociative disorders from the upcoming DSM-V: it is harmful to patients and their families, scientifically unjustified, and undermining the credibility of psychiatry.

REFERENCES

1. Merskey, H. (1992a). The manufacture of personalities. The production of multiple personality disorder. Brit. J. Psychiat., 160:327-340.

2. Taylor W.F. & Martin M.F. (1944) Multiple personality. J. Abnormal & Soc. Psychol., 39:281-330.

3. Thigpen, C.H. & Cleckley, H.M. (1957). The Three Faces of Eve. New York : McGraw-Hill.

4. Spiegel, H. (1993) Mistaken Identities: Toronto . Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. The Fifth Estate, 9 November 1993.

5. Schreiber, F.R. (1973) Sybil. Chicago : Henry Regnery.

6. Rieber, R.W. (2006) The Bifurcation of the Self. The History and Theory of Dissociation and Its Disorders. New York : Springer Science.

7. Piper, A., Merskey, H., (2004). The persistence of folly: a critical examination of dissociative identity disorder. Part I. The excesses of an improbable concept. Can J Psychiatry 49 (9): 592-600.

8. McNally, R. J. (2003) Remembering Trauma. Belknap Press/Harvard University Press: Cambridge , MA .

9. Pope, H.G. Jr., Poliakoff, M.B., Parker, M.P., Boynes, M.D., & Hudson , J.I. (2007) Is dissociative amnesia a culture-bound syndrome? Findings from a survey of historical literature. Psychol. Med., 37(2):225-233.

10. Pope, H. G. Jr., Oliva, P., Hudson , J.I.: (2005) Repressed memories. The scientific status of research on repressed memories, in Modern Scientific Evidence: The Law and Science of Expert Testimony�Social and Behavioral Science, 2005-2006 Edition. Edited by Faigman D, Kaye D, Saks M, Sanders J. Eagen, MN, West Group, pp 408-447.

11. Esterson, A. (1993) Seductive Mirage. Open Court: Chicago .

12. Crews, F. (1998) Unauthorized Freud: Doubters Confront a Legend. New York : Viking.

13. Freeland, A., Manchanda, R., Chiu, S., et al. (1993) Four cases of supposed multiple personality disorder: evidence of unjustified diagnoses. Can. J. Psychiat., 23: 245-247.

14. McHugh, Paul R. (2008) Try to Remember: Psychiatry�s Clash over Meaning, Memory, and Mind. Chapters 4 &5. Dana Press.

15. Fetkewicz, J., Sharma, V. & Merskey, H. (2000) A note on suicidal deterioration with recovered memory, treatment. J. Affect. Dis., 58:155-159.

16. Pope, H.G., Jr., Oliva, P.S., Hudson, J.I., Bodkin, J.A. & Gruber, A.J. (1999) Attitudes toward DSM-IV Dissociative Disorders Diagnoses among Board-Certified American Psychiatrists. Am. J. Psychiat., 2000; 157:1179-1180.

17. Lalonde, J.K., Hudson , J.I., Gigante, R.A. & Pope, H.G. Jr. (2001) Canadian and American psychiatrists� attitudes toward Dissociative Disorders diagnoses. Can. J. Psychiat., 46(5): 407-412.
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Old Jun 03, 2012, 01:21 PM
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Thank you too. It scared us but....what others posted helped us calm down. Glad you are less scared too.
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Old Jun 03, 2012, 11:23 PM
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Mike is mad because it sounds like no one believes us. Not fair--we hurt too much to be lying or deluded.
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Old Jun 05, 2012, 11:20 AM
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we are sorry that disbelief out of our circles is so common, we to where scared and hurt that we still have to fight to be heard and understood.

mike please know we believein you and understand the pain of disbief and continued abuse by those that want us to remain hidden and lost in pain.

sending gentle thoughts of hopes to you and those within you>

like we were told this is our chance to speak out then we have another 10 years before the DSM group to hear us again.

we hope u feel safe enough to let them know that we are real and we need their surpot to continue healinng.
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