[CalmingOcean]

Okay, if you read any of my post I am having a really hard time finding the in between of having different 'parts' and full blown DID.

I finally found a great explanation.

I hope this link works. Maybe research the ANP and EP (no mention of ISH in this article) as it is not explained fully in this article. But everything else I finally understand now!

Structural Dissociation of the Personality - Dissociative Identity Disorder, Dissociation and Trauma Disorders

[CalmingOcean]

I do want to say I am not against all the DID peeps and in no way am I so against having it myself because I would be ashamed, or other, I thnk it is amazing and fascinating the more I learn about it... I just don't think what I went through would justify the complexity of DID. Also, I don't feel as tho I have full blown alters, I don't think I switch and loose time (tho sometimes I know I change moods and forget parts if conversations, but I beleive that is more to do with dissociating and not 'being in my body).

So yeah, just wanted to say that.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by CalmingOcean

I do want to say I am not against all the DID peeps and in no way am I so against having it myself because I would be ashamed, or other, I thnk it is amazing and fascinating the more I learn about it... I just don't think what I went through would justify the complexity of DID. Also, I don't feel as tho I have full blown alters, I don't think I switch and loose time (tho sometimes I know I change moods and forget parts if conversations, but I beleive that is more to do with dissociating and not 'being in my body).

So yeah, just wanted to say that.

your links have great information but please be careful that website wikipedia here in american has admitted publically that they purposely place misleading/inaccurate information on their site and allow their readers to log in and make changes to the information as they see fit. they do a sort of check on any info that others submit but their checking is just making sure those submitting information can supply them with where else on the web they found the info...example someone can make a change to any of the DID information by quoting an article by a tabloid known for false information. I tried this out just for the heck of it one day to prove to one of my clients how unreliable wiki is. I sent in a change to them on a therapy concept and for proof I added a link to an article from an X rated made up story on a popular porn story writing site. the next day the change to the made up porn version was in the wiki information. I then wrote to them and told them what I had done and why did they allow such a thing to happen, wiki's reply they figured it was false information but they allowed it to show people you cant always believe what you find on the internet even on websites that claim to be encyclopedic in nature.

my suggestion take what you found to your treatment provider. they will be able to go through this information and point out the parts of the information that is valid/true and what is not for your location, situaiton/culture...

[Gus1234U]

i just want to say that i would rather trust Wiki or other Online sources than most therapists, who, after all, have no time or interest in keeping current, it seems to me~

[CalmingOcean]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

your links have great information but please be careful that website wikipedia here in american has admitted publically that they purposely place misleading/inaccurate information on their site and allow their readers to log in and make changes to the information as they see fit. they do a sort of check on any info that others submit but their checking is just making sure those submitting information can supply them with where else on the web they found the info...example someone can make a change to any of the DID information by quoting an article by a tabloid known for false information. I tried this out just for the heck of it one day to prove to one of my clients how unreliable wiki is. I sent in a change to them on a therapy concept and for proof I added a link to an article from an X rated made up story on a popular porn story writing site. the next day the change to the made up porn version was in the wiki information. I then wrote to them and told them what I had done and why did they allow such a thing to happen, wiki's reply they figured it was false information but they allowed it to show people you cant always believe what you find on the internet even on websites that claim to be encyclopedic in nature.

my suggestion take what you found to your treatment provider. they will be able to go through this information and point out the parts of the information that is valid/true and what is not for your location, situaiton/culture...

Can you take a quick little peek and validate it Are you a therapist? Your very knowledgeable... I hope it is legit the Secondary Structural Dissociation fits me perfectly, and this is what I've been looking for to show the different parts that my T told me about, without it having to be Dissociative Idntity Disorder.

That's quite the story about Wiki... Kinda dissapointed in their response to you sheesh.

[ThisWayOut]

That's an interesting concept. I will try to look into it tomorrow if I can remember. I had not heard about most of this as of 4 years ago, but that doesn't mean much... I'll keep an eye on this thread in case anyone else has info on it.

[Luce]

Calming Ocean, the theory of structural dissociation is the one adhered to by the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation, so yes, it is most definitely validated! The top experts and researchers in dissociative disorders from all over the world (including the USA) validate this theory. That is not to say that all individual therapists believe the same (some may not be up to par with the latest research and treatment models) but the top international experts in the field agree with it. Dissociation and Trauma: Join ISSTD!

My advice to you would be if your treatment provider is not aware of the most recent developments in the treatment of dissociative disorders and is not willing to learn more about it, then it is absolutely okay to seek a different provider who is open to learning.

Originally Posted by CalmingOcean

Okay, if you read any of my post I am having a really hard time finding the in between of having different 'parts' and full blown DID.

I finally found a great explanation.

I hope this link works. Maybe research the ANP and EP (no mention of ISH in this article) as it is not explained fully in this article. But everything else I finally understand now!

Structural Dissociation of the Personality - Dissociative Identity Disorder, Dissociation and Trauma Disorders

This entry on wiki is based on the extensive work of Onno van der Hart and Kathy Steel . . . I forget the other psychologist's name. The title of their book is THE HAUNTED SELF. I think it was published about eight or nine years ago. It's an excellent book on dissociation but very very dense in the information included. It's not summer beach reading but if you really want to understand dissociation and trauma, it's one of the "go to" books to read!

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by CalmingOcean

Can you take a quick little peek and validate it Are you a therapist? Your very knowledgeable... I hope it is legit the Secondary Structural Dissociation fits me perfectly, and this is what I've been looking for to show the different parts that my T told me about, without it having to be Dissociative Idntity Disorder.

That's quite the story about Wiki... Kinda dissapointed in their response to you sheesh.

whether a therapy approach is valid or not depends upon ones own location, culture, beliefs among ones own treatment providers....

that said....... here where I live and work ......it is not a valid model to go by due to the new diagnostic criteria for dissociative disorders and other more recent information about dissociative disorders here in my location. If you would like more information on this as it relates to my location and work place we can take it to private message.

to find out if this model is a valid one in your location/by your treatment providers and mental community where you live you will need to contact your treatment providers.

[CalmingOcean]

Originally Posted by Luce

Calming Ocean, the theory of structural dissociation is the one adhered to by the International Society for the Study of Trauma and Dissociation, so yes, it is most definitely validated! The top experts and researchers in dissociative disorders from all over the world (including the USA) validate this theory. That is not to say that all individual therapists believe the same (some may not be up to par with the latest research and treatment models) but the top international experts in the field agree with it. Dissociation and Trauma: Join ISSTD!

My advice to you would be if your treatment provider is not aware of the most recent developments in the treatment of dissociative disorders and is not willing to learn more about it, then it is absolutely okay to seek a different provider who is open to learning.

Thank you Lace, I was going a bit crazy trying to figure it all out I think. But someone I the forums is describing exactly how I feel... I shall become their secret stalker haha. Just kidding, I won't be quiet. Haha.

[CalmingOcean]

Originally Posted by Jaybird57

This entry on wiki is based on the extensive work of Onno van der Hart and Kathy Steel . . . I forget the other psychologist's name. The title of their book is THE HAUNTED SELF. I think it was published about eight or nine years ago. It's an excellent book on dissociation but very very dense in the information included. It's not summer beach reading but if you really want to understand dissociation and trauma, it's one of the "go to" books to read!

Thank you! I've seen it referenced a few times I will have to check it out!