[moodycow]

hi all, I hope you don't mind me asking,is it possible to have did traits without having full disorder,as it is with bpd? . thankyou for reading

[Lady Lindsey]

Yes, I believe it is called Unspecified dissociative disorder
Here is a link that might be helpful
Dissociative Identity Disorder, Dissociation and Trauma Disorders

Originally Posted by moodycow

hi all, I hope you don't mind me asking,is it possible to have did traits without having full disorder,as it is with bpd? . thankyou for reading

Oh we don't mind hun, we're happy to help. Your welcome to ask and post anything you like.

Dissociation is a spectrum with varying degrees, so yes one can have DID traits brought about by a traumatic experience.

[moodycow]

hi guys , thankyou for your quick responses , t is going to get me to do the questionnaire next week after some things I said in last session , I havelooked at symptoms and definitely relate to some but not others. I will let you know how it goes )

[finding_my_way]

I definitely am on the spectrum. I would say I have dissociative disorder not otherwise specified but do have parts as well as used to have severe depersonalization and derealization (now those are few and far between thankfully).

I have never had times where I had items I didn't remember buying or people who knew me when I didn't know them, etc. Never have 'woken' up in random places.

For me, I have experienced large chunks of very hazy time, lapses of memory, yet not full on black outs...but I spend a lot of time at home, so it has never affected me like it might if I had to function daily in the outside world.

Although, years ago my dissociation was very severe (high school) and in childhood as well, but I did not know until I got older that I even experienced it as a child.

I have always had other parts, heard voices, felt shifts inside and all that kind of stuff with that type of dissociation, but over the years things have gotten a lot more quiet and less chaotic with it. I do still have times that are confusing and throw me for a loop...it is strictly internal, not external, as in I don't do anything noticeable that would make a person clue in that I was dissociating. It can be mild where I feel blended with another part or severe to where I am somewhere in between in this blank darkness unable to move my body or talk.

So, there definitely is a spectrum of dissociative disorders as well as severity and everything in between.

[-jimi-]

It is absolutely a spectrum, and people have questioned the DID diagnosis. It is real alright, but it is only the tip of an iceberg. There are no statistics from the new manual but going by the old one, only 40 % of the dissociatives had a specific dissociative diagnosis, and 60 % had a non specified one. Which is a failure to understand what dissociation is like. So at least half of the dissociatives do not live up to DID or any of the other specific diagnoses. Makes me wonder if there should be a specific diagnoses for others and more looking into what makes up their issues.

Originally Posted by -jimi-

It is absolutely a spectrum, and people have questioned the DID diagnosis. It is real alright, but it is only the tip of an iceberg. There are no statistics from the new manual but going by the old one, only 40 % of the dissociatives had a specific dissociative diagnosis, and 60 % had a non specified one. Which is a failure to understand what dissociation is like. So at least half of the dissociatives do not live up to DID or any of the other specific diagnoses. Makes me wonder if there should be a specific diagnoses for others and more looking into what makes up their issues.

I'm not sure how this goes, but DDNOS-1 is now Other Specified Dissociative Disorder (OSDD) in the DSM-5 for those that don't quite exactly make the DX of DID, or a holding tank before the final DX. My question is, does it matter?

You are who you are...HELP!

[amandalouise]

to the original poster...I see by your profile you are in the UK...a bit of information here in America we dont have something called DID traites. we have the general category of dissociative symptoms....

any one of any mental disorder or not can have dissociative symptoms.

example a person with PTSD can have the dissociative symptoms of feeling numb, spaced out, disconnected from their body or their environment, hear voices, or even have parts of self, dissociative type parts....

here in america DID is not a specturm (by that I mean we dont have different types of DID or different levels of DID like for example autism has many different types of autism or like psychotic disorders have more than one schizo type disorder that includes schizophrenia.) we have one mental disorder called DID and either a person meets the full diagnostics for it and gets the label or they dont meet the diagnostic criteria and do not get the diagnosis.

that said the general term dissociation is a spectrum meaning with in that category there are many dissociation levels and disorders.

you can find more information about what America goes by for what is DID in the link in my signature line.

keep in mind that this is only for america. your location of the UK may go by different standards so to find out whats what in your location you will need to contact a treatment provider in your off line location.

for those asking about DDNOS here in america DDNOS is broken up into many different mental disorders now. some was added to PTSD, Some was added to Depression, Some DDNOS symptoms are now covered by Dissociative Amnesia, depersonalization/derealization disorder, and DID, some was split into two new disorders called OSDD (other Specified Dissociative Disorder) and USDD (Un Specified Dissociative Disorder)

short version those with the diagnosis of DDNOS must nowe consult their treatment providers who will tell them what their new diagnosis's are and which one of their DDNOS symptoms are covered by what disorder now.

for example I know someone who was previously diagnosed DDNOS and now their diagnosis's are bipolar disorder, Anxiety, depression, Schizophrenia, PTSD and dissociative Amnesia.

because of the extensiveness of how the American Psychiatric Association broke up DDNOS into other categories\diagnosis's only your treatment providers can now say where you fit in with the new diagnostics.

[-jimi-]

From what I see, dissociation is common in BPD and even more common in c-PTSD (which many doctors see as BPD). What kind of dissociative symptoms you have can vary and you can have more than one type.

The common notion is that you cannot have "a little" DID, but I've met loads of people who had what was DDNOS and they did indeed have DID type of issues, but some stuff were lacking for a full diagnosis. They exist and I don't care if people say DID is a total binary, these people exist and they are probably more than people with DID.

Saying these people don't exist is as hurtful as saying that people with DID don't exist.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by amandalouise

to the original poster...I see by your profile you are in the UK...a bit of information here in America we dont have something called DID traites. we have the general category of dissociative symptoms....

any one of any mental disorder or not can have dissociative symptoms.

example a person with PTSD can have the dissociative symptoms of feeling numb, spaced out, disconnected from their body or their environment, hear voices, or even have parts of self, dissociative type parts....

here in america DID is not a specturm (by that I mean we dont have different types of DID or different levels of DID like for example autism has many different types of autism or like psychotic disorders have more than one schizo type disorder that includes schizophrenia.) we have one mental disorder called DID and either a person meets the full diagnostics for it and gets the label or they dont meet the diagnostic criteria and do not get the diagnosis.

that said the general term dissociation is a spectrum meaning with in that category there are many dissociation levels and disorders.

you can find more information about what America goes by for what is DID in the link in my signature line.

keep in mind that this is only for america. your location of the UK may go by different standards so to find out whats what in your location you will need to contact a treatment provider in your off line location.

for those asking about DDNOS here in america DDNOS is broken up into many different mental disorders now. some was added to PTSD, Some was added to Depression, Some DDNOS symptoms are now covered by Dissociative Amnesia, depersonalization/derealization disorder, and DID, some was split into two new disorders called OSDD (other Specified Dissociative Disorder) and USDD (Un Specified Dissociative Disorder)

short version those with the diagnosis of DDNOS must nowe consult their treatment providers who will tell them what their new diagnosis's are and which one of their DDNOS symptoms are covered by what disorder now.

for example I know someone who was previously diagnosed DDNOS and now their diagnosis's are bipolar disorder, Anxiety, depression, Schizophrenia, PTSD and dissociative Amnesia.

because of the extensiveness of how the American Psychiatric Association broke up DDNOS into other categories\diagnosis's only your treatment providers can now say where you fit in with the new diagnostics.

forgot to add the information that I supplied in my post and in the link on my signature is for American standards only.

others in the UK/Europe/France/Canada \Africa (or any other country in their profiles) will need to contact their own treatment providers to find out if your country goes by the same diagnostics (DSM 5) that Americans /the USA does.