I read somewhere that people that have Dissociative Disorders (DID/OSDD) can have parts of their brain actively aware of the passage of time while they sleep and dream....like not the entire brain shuts down when they sleep.

Ever since reading about this...we’ve been very interested in how we dream, sleep, how it affects the mind and body, and does the body feel rested.

Can it really be different then how singletons sleep and dream?

I know diet and exercise impacts sleeping and dreaming patterns greatly, but we each do have a normal daily routine that results in the same physical/mental state of being nightly.

If I eat fresh raw white onions on a sandwich or burger for some unbeknownst to me reason....we sleep hard and dream train loud, vivid, frantic real dreams and wake up tireder then ever.... so white onions are off the menu no matter how much it adds to a sandwich (just can’t resist sometimes! Lol).

So is this true for multiples? How does it affect you? Care to describe?

It was a quiet dream off to the right and in the distance....I can envision blurry colors, barely any audible. It was mostly dark black.

I kept hearing voiced thoughts of worries: “I hope I don’t over sleep”, “I hope this wears off”, “I should of made sure that the alarm is going to go off”, “hope we get enough sleep”....then back to a daze staring into the darkness paying the dream no mind like a turned on t.v. In another part of the room. (We have to train a trainee today).

It was restful sleep even though I was aware and monitoring our sleep quality waiting for the alarm to go off.

Of course it’s broken up because Cleo wants to go walking, twice: at 2 am and 4:30 am...but each segment was the same.

I feel rested and calm.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

I read somewhere that people that have Dissociative Disorders (DID/OSDD) can have parts of their brain actively aware of the passage of time while they sleep and dream....like not the entire brain shuts down when they sleep.

Ever since reading about this...we’ve been very interested in how we dream, sleep, how it affects the mind and body, and does the body feel rested.

Can it really be different then how singletons sleep and dream?

I know diet and exercise impacts sleeping and dreaming patterns greatly, but we each do have a normal daily routine that results in the same physical/mental state of being nightly.

If I eat fresh raw white onions on a sandwich or burger for some unbeknownst to me reason....we sleep hard and dream train loud, vivid, frantic real dreams and wake up tireder then ever.... so white onions are off the menu no matter how much it adds to a sandwich (just can’t resist sometimes! Lol).

So is this true for multiples? How does it affect you? Care to describe?

I have never had any food items cause me and my alters to dream a certain way (for physical health reasons and eating disorder reasons I have kept food logs for over 20 years) the only time food items caused my alters and I problems was when one would eat a product the body was allergic to, then we had hives and allergic reactions.

sleep wise at one point my treatment provider, sleep study medic and I did do a bit of work on whether when I slept the alters were aware. it turned out that something in my sleep (either I heard a triggering noise, or was dreaming about something triggering...) which caused me to leave REM sleep phase, having my dissociative symptoms of anxiety then while partially awake enter my dissociative symptoms which caused my alters to take control. in other words my alters taking control was dissociation related.

yes I always felt calm and rested after my alters took control when I got triggered during sleep.

Im guessing the brain doesnt totally shut down when someone was sleeping because if it did then a person would be dead (no brain activity = legal definition of when medical doctors pronounce a person dead)

Given you are not dead Im guessing parts of your brain are still active while you sleep.

my suggestion if this continues to bother you, maybe find a place that does sleep studies where you are located, or talk with your doctors and they can tell you how to get an appointment at a sleep study center.

Last night, my son came home from his girlfriend h.s. Prom (he graduated) at 2 a.m. with his girlfriend...and we were upset about the no girl rule, but he then started telling us he was drunk and he was around the corner...so I said that I was glad he came here instead of driving.

So, we had four 16 oz beers in the fridge and threw the last one away at 4:30 am. We slept like a rock..can’t remember nothing, lol.

As much as I know A-

The normal sleeping brain is only active in the Rapid Eye Movement phase which is the dream state.

It has been suggested that a DID mind can experience parts that are actively awake whilst the rest of the body and mind is experiencing REM sleep at the same time- I find this fascinating to watch ones’ self dream as I’ve described in my posts.

I wonder if this happens to other people like myself or have it gone unnoticed.

Hoping to not sound conceited, but...I am my own favorite subject of observation...but so are the rest of all that is challenged by this condition. I just happen to be on hand and readily available.

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

As much as I know A-

The normal sleeping brain is only active in the Rapid Eye Movement phase which is the dream state.

It has been suggested that a DID mind can experience parts that are actively awake whilst the rest of the body and mind is experiencing REM sleep at the same time- I find this fascinating to watch ones’ self dream as I’ve described in my posts.

I wonder if this happens to other people like myself or have it gone unnoticed.

Hoping to not sound conceited, but...I am my own favorite subject of observation...but so are the rest of all that is challenged by this condition. I just happen to be on hand and readily available.

my understanding of the brain is that all areas of the brain are active through out the night. what changes is the kind of brain waves during sleep vs awake. (alpha, beta...)

example the thalmus is active during the daytime. its the pain center. its also active during sleep ever dream of getting hurt in a dream and during that it actually feels like you got hurt.

the hippocampus is the memories and emotions center for the brain. its active during awake hours and when alsleep. (where do dreams come from.. our remembered experiences and emotions related to those experiences and our imaginations...)

my point there are many many parts of the brain that are active 24/7 during sleep/ waking or under stress or relaxation.

my suggestion is maybe do a research project or join a college biology class that teaches all about the brain and how it functions and what each part of the brain does. the brain is an amazing organ and I really enjoyed my college health classes. I was amazed at just how much the brain continues to work even when we are asleep.

Originally Posted by amandalouise

my understanding of the brain is that all areas of the brain are active through out the night. what changes is the kind of brain waves during sleep vs awake. (alpha, beta...)

example the thalmus is active during the daytime. its the pain center. its also active during sleep ever dream of getting hurt in a dream and during that it actually feels like you got hurt.

the hippocampus is the memories and emotions center for the brain. its active during awake hours and when alsleep. (where do dreams come from.. our remembered experiences and emotions related to those experiences and our imaginations...)

my point there are many many parts of the brain that are active 24/7 during sleep/ waking or under stress or relaxation.

my suggestion is maybe do a research project or join a college biology class that teaches all about the brain and how it functions and what each part of the brain does. the brain is an amazing organ and I really enjoyed my college health classes. I was amazed at just how much the brain continues to work even when we are asleep.

Yeah sounds like an idea...an interest has been sparked....another unfinished project maybe....? Lol

You have any reading suggestions?

[amandalouise]

Originally Posted by AlwaysChanging2

You have any reading suggestions?

Amazon has many great books on how the brain works, just type in their search bar what you are interested in and it will give you lots and lots of books that you can click on to read a bit about that book, its index pages and a page or two from the book so you can get the right book that fits you.

the books I read are usually college textbooks I get from college book stores, thats another idea for you, if you have a college near by, go browse in their textbooks anything on the shelves marked for heath or psychology will be where you find books on the brain in these stores.

I haven’t remembered a dream in a long while....must have something to do with all the ale me be drinking.

Hopefully tonight be another night.

I do wish though that we are more peaceable then fort nights past or however they say that bloody word