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Hi, I live in Long Island NY and have not been able to find a Psychiatrist or Psychologist who's focus is DID accepting new DID patients. I found some that tell me to call back in a few months. Like February 2022. I thought I found one, I waited two months to see her. This was during covid so she was having her patients waiting outside in their cars. I parked behind the building in the shade because it was very hot out and I didn't have enough gas to let the car run with the air on. I didn't realize there was no phone service behind the building and missed her call for me to come up. By the time I realized I had no phone service behind the building it was too late. She said I was 15 minutes late so the appointment was canceled. I tried to make another appointment recently but I was told she will not see me because I missed the first appointment. She never got on the phone so I could only talk to her clerk. Who was very nice but still couldn't help me. My mental health has been at it's worst recently. Scary bad. Any way does anyone know a Psychologist or Psychiatrist in the Long Island NY NY area that is taking patients. I search on line everyday. I call someone everyday and usually I am told maybe in five months or I am referred to someone who hasn't worked with DID patients. Please help if you can. Thanks
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Hi Clarity! I'm so sorry you're struggling with finding a therapist - and one who is more open and understanding. It must be frustrating to deal with no cell service and then no second chances because of that technical difficulty, which the therapist should be aware of when she has some clients waiting outside and may not have cell service. Also, that sounds pretty harsh to not be able to see you after only 15 minutes of that, and then to not even schedule another appointment. I know times are tough, but that probably wouldn't have been a good fit for a therapist anyway, if that's the way her rules were.

I'm sorry you have to wait such a long time for a T. Before the pandemic and influx in mental health cases across the nation, I struggled for over a decade trying to find the right therapist to treat dissociation/DID. There aren't many out there when 50% of mental health professionals debate its existence, when research is lacking, and when few therapists actually get trained in treating these particular disorders (let alone assessing them). Hopefully times have changed, but it remains unclear when the dissociation population still has difficulty finding adequate, long-term treatment.

Here's a few websites that might help you in your search to inquire about therapists that specialize in dissociation and trauma, to ask for possible referrals for dissociation and trauma specialists, and/or to inquire about other programs that can help you in the interim of seeking traditional individual counseling (such as group supports, group therapies, etc., until you can get an individual therapist):

ISSTD

Good Therapy

Psychology Today

Therapy Tribe

NAMI NYC Metro

NAMI NYC Support Groups

NAMI New York State

Monarch New York

211 New York State (Dial 2-1-1 and ask for a mental health specialist treating dissociation and trauma, or support groups)

311 New York State (Dial 3-1-1 and ask for a mental health specialist treating dissociation and trauma, or support groups)

RAINN

Zocdoc

SAMHSA

Psychology Today - Trauma-focused Support Groups

Mount Sinai Morningside Support Groups

You can also contact your healthcare insurance to aid in finding you a provider who specializes and treats dissociation and trauma - both for individual and group therapies.

Hope these resources help.
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In addition to the above, here are some articles addressing tips for finding a therapist who specializes in Dissociative Identity Disorder, specifically:

Therapy Tribe - DID

Healthy Place - DID

NAMI - Dissociative Disorders

Healthline - General Inquiry on Mental Health

Web MD - Types of Therapists & Their Credentials

Mayo Clinic - Dissociative Disorders

American Psychological Association - How to find a good therapist

Mental Health America - Finding Help

Good Therapy - DID

Sheppard Pratt - DID

AAMFT - DID

PsychCentral - DID Treatment


BLOGS:

DID Research

Learn About DID

Carolyn Spring - DID Therapy

You can also contact out-of-state providers that are licensed to practice online across multiple states and jurisdictions. But see if your insurance carrier allows for this first.
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Hi, I live in Long Island NY and have not been able to find a Psychiatrist or Psychologist who's focus is DID accepting new DID patients. I found some that tell me to call back in a few months. Like February 2022. I thought I found one, I waited two months to see her. This was during covid so she was having her patients waiting outside in their cars. I parked behind the building in the shade because it was very hot out and I didn't have enough gas to let the car run with the air on. I didn't realize there was no phone service behind the building and missed her call for me to come up. By the time I realized I had no phone service behind the building it was too late. She said I was 15 minutes late so the appointment was canceled. I tried to make another appointment recently but I was told she will not see me because I missed the first appointment. She never got on the phone so I could only talk to her clerk. Who was very nice but still couldn't help me. My mental health has been at it's worst recently. Scary bad. Any way does anyone know a Psychologist or Psychiatrist in the Long Island NY NY area that is taking patients. I search on line everyday. I call someone everyday and usually I am told maybe in five months or I am referred to someone who hasn't worked with DID patients. Please help if you can. Thanks
great to see you posting again, hows the cancer treatments going? maybe your doctors can refer you to a mental health treatment provider.

I do have to say though in NY you probably wont find a treatment provider specifically and limited to DID. here in NY a majority of treatment providers no longer do the stigmatizing way of treating people with DID like you see in movies, books and internet clips and popular internet DID guru's.

here in NY treatment providers are trained for working with people of all walks of life and problems. Treatment for DID here in NY does .........not........ focus on things like treating people with "alternate personalities" in terms of regressions into acting like children. here a majority of mental health treatment providers are now on the new definitions, diagnostics and so forth.

what you will find here in NY is mental health treatment providers who work with people who have dissociation problems. here DID is a dissociative disorder. not a personality disorder. most also have strict rules and boundaries like being on time, not acting out violently or childishly and other outdated versions of DID.

my point when looking for treatment providers here in NY dont aim for "im looking for someone who treats DID"

aim instead for "I am having problem / symptom can you help me solve this problem / symptom.

example if I was right now looking for a mental health treatment provider I would pick up the phone and say....

hello are you accepting new patients with such and such insurance?

you are great. Im having a problem. when I am stressed out I feel (wording it in feelings, and as problems and symptoms not disorder names, if they need to know what my past diagnosis labels are they will ask or refer me for testing.)

Do you have anyone that works with these kinds of problems?

Great yes I would like to schedule an appointment.

That is fantastic. ok now before I come over are masks required? Do I need to bring with me any paperwork and vaccination card?

Ok thanks, what is your waiting room like, do I check in with someone?

now on parking (NYC and surrounding areas are a devil of a place for parking. some are lucky to have drive ways but most are street side parking) where would you like me to wait when I get there?

I get as much information about the upcoming appointment with a new treatment provider so that I am prepared and dont accidentally get marked down as a no show. my wife doesnt end up with a parking ticket and so forth.

remember here in NY you are not a disorder, you..... have...... a disorder.

Aim for why you want to be in therapy, what problems/ symptoms you are having and a general idea of what you need help from your new treatment provider on.
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If I recall, I found my psychologist who has DID experience through Psychology Today. He's also listed on my health insurance website via their online search. On his Psychology Today page he doesn't even mention DID, but if look at other places on the Internet he mentions his DID experience on some websites.

One thing to know is that most of the psychologist & psychiatrists listings on Psychology Today are out of date. Most of them who say they take my insurance don't. So it's best to just contact all of them in your area. Also they rarely mention anything about DID experience, probably because it's so uncommon for people to search for DID. So again, I found it's best to just contact them to find out.

Maybe you could contact those who specialize in trauma. A lot of them don't have DID experience, but they're willing to learn about it. Just as long as they have specialize in trauma.

Hope that helps. Best wishes finding a T or pDoc. Hope to see you around here on the boards.
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In the VA system, I had to specifically ask for a therapist who treats DID. So each institution's ethics on who they treat and see might differ. Some mental health specialists are obliged to refer out when their expertise is limited and cannot fully benefit or treat those with more complex disorders. The APA has statements on that, which is why, as a consumer, it might be best to save you time and seek treatment that is tailored to your needs - for both a good personality fit between you and your therapist along with the therapist's credentials and treatment specialties.

If you are unclear on what works best for you, you can always try finding a therapist who is trained in things beyond CBT, such as those who are also trained with EMDR, brainspotting, internal family systems therapy, CBT specifically for trauma, trauma-informed psychotherapy, feminist-approaches in psychotherapy (there are some who offer these kinds of approaches as well as those who cater to the LGBTQ+ communities), racial trauma and cultural competence in psychotherapy (which is especially helpful if you are a minority or part of the BIPOC community or part of the AAHNPI/AAPI/Asian community), humanistic approaches, and other modalities.

You have a right as a patient to voice when some treatment isn't working for you or doesn't seem to be fitting in with what you're looking for. You also have a right to request a different therapist if the current one assigned to you is too triggering or doesn't seem like a good personality fit. Some people look for different therapeutic dynamics, so that's important. It differs for everyone. So, what may work for some people may not work for others.

It depends on what you're looking for.

You might be looking for a long-term therapist, but times might be tough right now to find one. So, perhaps finding a short-term therapist in the interim might be one solution. You can always be up front and honest with the therapist by stating that you intend on finding a long-term therapist in the future, but you are willing to try short-term therapy for now.

Here's an article that the APA published regarding cases outside the therapists' skill set: What should you do if a case is outside your skill set?

And here's another article that the APA published regarding ethical pitfalls, including practicing outside your area of expertise (see #7): 10 ways practitioners can avoid frequent ethical pitfalls

The views on DID and dissociation differ, so some therapists may argue that anyone trained with minimal trauma training would be competent for DID, CPTSD, and/or PTSD with a comorbid dissociative disorder. But this may not be the case, and this may cause more harm than benefit unless the therapy is short-term and specified to one treatment goal, such as learning CBT or DBT for a short period of time (3 years or less). For those who seek treatment with identifying and working with alternate personalities, that requires someone who is specifically trained in trauma and dissociation, including internal family systems therapies and any alternative therapies. There are controversies on this topic as well as other ethical topics, but what matters is how it relates to what patients need and want in therapy. A patient who just wants to work on coping skills or certain symptoms, regardless of their diagnoses, may only seek those kinds of therapists. But a patient who wishes to seek treatment for complex disorders, such as DID or CPTSD, then those require specialists.

Perhaps write a list of what you're looking for in a therapist for your specific symptoms. If you don't know, then write that down, too.

Write a summary of the questions you'd like to ask your therapist on your first few sessions, which can address your symptoms.

Write down anything you wish to discuss with your therapist on your first few visits in order to get to know your therapist better. Your therapist will likely have questions for you, too. But most therapists will ask you if you have questions for them toward the end of their initial assessment and/or intake.

Sometimes there's an intake person who asks you questions before assigning you to a therapist. It depends on where you go, and where you feel comfortable going.

If you do a search online, you might find a more specific resource to help you. You're likely going to receive a lot of different answers here on this forum or on any social media site. But if you do a google search for what you're specifically looking for, you might find the information that is best tailored to your needs.
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In the VA system, I had to specifically ask for a therapist who treats DID. So each institution's ethics on who they treat and see might differ. Some mental health specialists are obliged to refer out when their expertise is limited and cannot fully benefit or treat those with more complex disorders. The APA has statements on that, which is why, as a consumer, it might be best to save you time and seek treatment that is tailored to your needs - for both a good personality fit between you and your therapist along with the therapist's credentials and treatment specialties.

If you are unclear on what works best for you, you can always try finding a therapist who is trained in things beyond CBT, such as those who are also trained with EMDR, brainspotting, internal family systems therapy, CBT specifically for trauma, trauma-informed psychotherapy, feminist-approaches in psychotherapy (there are some who offer these kinds of approaches as well as those who cater to the LGBTQ+ communities), racial trauma and cultural competence in psychotherapy (which is especially helpful if you are a minority or part of the BIPOC community or part of the AAHNPI/AAPI/Asian community), humanistic approaches, and other modalities.

You have a right as a patient to voice when some treatment isn't working for you or doesn't seem to be fitting in with what you're looking for. You also have a right to request a different therapist if the current one assigned to you is too triggering or doesn't seem like a good personality fit. Some people look for different therapeutic dynamics, so that's important. It differs for everyone. So, what may work for some people may not work for others.

It depends on what you're looking for.

You might be looking for a long-term therapist, but times might be tough right now to find one. So, perhaps finding a short-term therapist in the interim might be one solution. You can always be up front and honest with the therapist by stating that you intend on finding a long-term therapist in the future, but you are willing to try short-term therapy for now.

Here's an article that the APA published regarding cases outside the therapists' skill set: What should you do if a case is outside your skill set?

And here's another article that the APA published regarding ethical pitfalls, including practicing outside your area of expertise (see #7): 10 ways practitioners can avoid frequent ethical pitfalls

The views on DID and dissociation differ, so some therapists may argue that anyone trained with minimal trauma training would be competent for DID, CPTSD, and/or PTSD with a comorbid dissociative disorder. But this may not be the case, and this may cause more harm than benefit unless the therapy is short-term and specified to one treatment goal, such as learning CBT or DBT for a short period of time (3 years or less). For those who seek treatment with identifying and working with alternate personalities, that requires someone who is specifically trained in trauma and dissociation, including internal family systems therapies and any alternative therapies. There are controversies on this topic as well as other ethical topics, but what matters is how it relates to what patients need and want in therapy. A patient who just wants to work on coping skills or certain symptoms, regardless of their diagnoses, may only seek those kinds of therapists. But a patient who wishes to seek treatment for complex disorders, such as DID or CPTSD, then those require specialists.

Perhaps write a list of what you're looking for in a therapist for your specific symptoms. If you don't know, then write that down, too.

Write a summary of the questions you'd like to ask your therapist on your first few sessions, which can address your symptoms.

Write down anything you wish to discuss with your therapist on your first few visits in order to get to know your therapist better. Your therapist will likely have questions for you, too. But most therapists will ask you if you have questions for them toward the end of their initial assessment and/or intake.

Sometimes there's an intake person who asks you questions before assigning you to a therapist. It depends on where you go, and where you feel comfortable going.

If you do a search online, you might find a more specific resource to help you. You're likely going to receive a lot of different answers here on this forum or on any social media site. But if you do a google search for what you're specifically looking for, you might find the information that is best tailored to your needs.
great information.

NY is on American Psychiatric Association standards for treating and diagnosing DID not the American Psychological Association.

Example of differences...

psychological association is more concerned with state side where as psychiatric association is world wide.

psychological association does not publish the diagnostic manuals, they participate in the science side of things. where as the psychiatric association is who published the diagnostic manual of what is disorders, definitions and testing and so on.

its one of those weird things where two agencies are using the same initials but are two vastly different things.

When I said in my post that Clairity wont find treatment providers in NY treating DID by outdated standards of a personality disorder I meant this that is found on the APA (p meaning Psychiatry not Psychology) standards that DID is a dissociative disorder where someone has less than one personality not multiple personalities.

in other words here in NY treatment providers treat people with DID as ....one .... person. they are a human being with normal and dissociative type parts. what defines those parts as normal or dissociative type is the dissociation symptoms.

This definition of DID has been in place since 2013 but not made public for many years by the APA (P as in psychiatry not psychology.) thats what clairtytoo will find when looking for treatment providers here in NY.

he wont find therapists wanting him to be alternate personalities, or act out as alternate personalities, he will find therapists that treat dissociation symptoms and problems because by APA (psychiatry not psychology) standards DID is a dissociative disorder not a multiple personality disorder.

the reason I mention that and am explaining my post more clearly is because clarity and others many be looking for a therapist who treat them for multiple personalities when NY is now on a new standard.

you cant find therapists here in NY who treat in terms of Multiple personalities very often, a majority now treat this disorder differently (by symptoms and problems instead of disorder)

same disorder just different treatment approach now since the disorder is now labeled and defined as a dissociative disorder.

thanks again though for your links I found them interesting and remember seeing them before.
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great to see you posting again, hows the cancer treatments going? maybe your doctors can refer you to a mental health treatment provider.

I do have to say though in NY you probably wont find a treatment provider specifically and limited to DID. here in NY a majority of treatment providers no longer do the stigmatizing way of treating people with DID like you see in movies, books and internet clips and popular internet DID guru's.

here in NY treatment providers are trained for working with people of all walks of life and problems. Treatment for DID here in NY does .........not........ focus on things like treating people with "alternate personalities" in terms of regressions into acting like children. here a majority of mental health treatment providers are now on the new definitions, diagnostics and so forth.

what you will find here in NY is mental health treatment providers who work with people who have dissociation problems. here DID is a dissociative disorder. not a personality disorder. most also have strict rules and boundaries like being on time, not acting out violently or childishly and other outdated versions of DID.

my point when looking for treatment providers here in NY dont aim for "im looking for someone who treats DID"

aim instead for "I am having problem / symptom can you help me solve this problem / symptom.

example if I was right now looking for a mental health treatment provider I would pick up the phone and say....

hello are you accepting new patients with such and such insurance?

you are great. Im having a problem. when I am stressed out I feel (wording it in feelings, and as problems and symptoms not disorder names, if they need to know what my past diagnosis labels are they will ask or refer me for testing.)

Do you have anyone that works with these kinds of problems?

Great yes I would like to schedule an appointment.

That is fantastic. ok now before I come over are masks required? Do I need to bring with me any paperwork and vaccination card?

Ok thanks, what is your waiting room like, do I check in with someone?

now on parking (NYC and surrounding areas are a devil of a place for parking. some are lucky to have drive ways but most are street side parking) where would you like me to wait when I get there?

I get as much information about the upcoming appointment with a new treatment provider so that I am prepared and dont accidentally get marked down as a no show. my wife doesnt end up with a parking ticket and so forth.

remember here in NY you are not a disorder, you..... have...... a disorder.

Aim for why you want to be in therapy, what problems/ symptoms you are having and a general idea of what you need help from your new treatment provider on.

Hi My cancer is what it is thank you for asking. I have to say I disagree with your approach to finding a treatment provider. I have gone to many providers that didn't know I had DID and were unable to understand when I couldn't remember our last session. Or if someone else was at session and behaved differently toward them. Once I would explain my diagnosis sessions became distant. Either the t suggested I find someone who was familiar with DID or they would say I needed more specialized care than they could provide.The last provider I recently spoke to told me that I was psychotic. That DID is a form of psychosis. WTF. Also there is a change happening in ny regarding DID and treatment. I have found providers who recognize DID as a disorder and treat it as such. But they are difficult to find and when I do they are booked and want me to call back in several months. I don't want to go to a provider who has no knowledge of DID. I need a provider who at least knows what it is.and will take this into consideration when I am different during sessions. And a provider who won't be afraid to treat me. I'm still looking and I do think there is someone out there.
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Hi My cancer is what it is thank you for asking. I have to say I disagree with your approach to finding a treatment provider. I have gone to many providers that didn't know I had DID and were unable to understand when I couldn't remember our last session. Or if someone else was at session and behaved differently toward them. Once I would explain my diagnosis sessions became distant. Either the t suggested I find someone who was familiar with DID or they would say I needed more specialized care than they could provide.The last provider I recently spoke to told me that I was psychotic. That DID is a form of psychosis. WTF. Also there is a change happening in ny regarding DID and treatment. I have found providers who recognize DID as a disorder and treat it as such. But they are difficult to find and when I do they are booked and want me to call back in several months. I don't want to go to a provider who has no knowledge of DID. I need a provider who at least knows what it is.and will take this into consideration when I am different during sessions. And a provider who won't be afraid to treat me. I'm still looking and I do think there is someone out there.
Yes there is someone out there for you and yes its going to take time. yes NY is going through many changes in the mental health field.

DID is a form of psychosis... I cant go into great detail but its a diagnostic change thats happening here in NY and possibly other places and so on.

you know how in the diagnostics it states "reality remains intact"

short version if when you change into one of your parts you become mute/ unresponsive/ catatonic/ hallucinations/ delusions / behaviors that are more consistent with the 1950's version of MPD, TV, Movies, Youtube and so forth instead what dissociation is today, or you have the kind of internal system where you have fictive/ pseudo/ or characterizations to your parts its called psychosis not dissociative.

my suggestion is dont worry that some agencies and treatment providers are looking closer to that diagnostic criteria and differentiating whether a persons DID is more psychotic symptoms and problems then dissociative symptoms and problems. and if they are more psychotic have them get a different treatment provider who is more able to treat psychotic problems.

instead aim for how you are feeling. dissociation is a normal response to a trigger.

Like the feeling of anger and mad.. when someone says something (trigger) you dont like you ..........feel........... angry. (response to the trigger)

with dissociation something happens (trigger) to make you ...........feel ..... a certain way (dissociation symptoms). reality remains intact.

treatment for dissociation is different than treatment for psychosis.

since you are aware enough to know you are dissociating in therapy a good place to start is noticing what the trigger is, then telling which ever treatment provider you are with something like I need to stop and tell you right now Im feeling... then describe what you are feeling. then do some grounding to get yourself more stable (less dissociated)

I know that the fact that some treatment providers are telling you, your DID is psychosis. it may just be that they need more information from you on what you are .........feeling....... vs what you believe when you are dissociating.

I know things are confusing right now with how NY is making changes to their mental health system. I hate it too. thankfully I have been longer term with my present treatment provider so we are able to fairly easily navigate the changes.

my moto take it one step at a time, it will work out in the end.
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Yes there is someone out there for you and yes its going to take time. yes NY is going through many changes in the mental health field.

DID is a form of psychosis... I cant go into great detail but its a diagnostic change thats happening here in NY and possibly other places and so on.

you know how in the diagnostics it states "reality remains intact"

short version if when you change into one of your parts you become mute/ unresponsive/ catatonic/ hallucinations/ delusions / behaviors that are more consistent with the 1950's version of MPD, TV, Movies, Youtube and so forth instead what dissociation is today, or you have the kind of internal system where you have fictive/ pseudo/ or characterizations to your parts its called psychosis not dissociative.

my suggestion is dont worry that some agencies and treatment providers are looking closer to that diagnostic criteria and differentiating whether a persons DID is more psychotic symptoms and problems then dissociative symptoms and problems. and if they are more psychotic have them get a different treatment provider who is more able to treat psychotic problems.

instead aim for how you are feeling. dissociation is a normal response to a trigger.

Like the feeling of anger and mad.. when someone says something (trigger) you dont like you ..........feel........... angry. (response to the trigger)

with dissociation something happens (trigger) to make you ...........feel ..... a certain way (dissociation symptoms). reality remains intact.

treatment for dissociation is different than treatment for psychosis.

since you are aware enough to know you are dissociating in therapy a good place to start is noticing what the trigger is, then telling which ever treatment provider you are with something like I need to stop and tell you right now Im feeling... then describe what you are feeling. then do some grounding to get yourself more stable (less dissociated)

I know that the fact that some treatment providers are telling you, your DID is psychosis. it may just be that they need more information from you on what you are .........feeling....... vs what you believe when you are dissociating.

I know things are confusing right now with how NY is making changes to their mental health system. I hate it too. thankfully I have been longer term with my present treatment provider so we are able to fairly easily navigate the changes.

my moto take it one step at a time, it will work out in the end.

Thanks for some insight. My major concern is medication.I recently had an extremely bad reaction to dexamethazone, its a steroid used for my cancer treatment. I became suicidal and ended up on a psych ward for 13 days with almost no treatment. The psych prescribed aanti convulsive meds that threw me in to a profound depression. I barely lived through the experience. Now I am left with deep depressive moods panic attacks and endless anxiety. I have tried 5 different ssriPs since I got out of the psych ward but one worse than the other. Finally my gp prescribed xanax which saved my life but isn't long term. I am trying to find a provider who has educated knowledge of DID and can help me find meds that will get me back to sanity and not destroy what I have left. My mental state is day by day. I try very hard to keep us safe. I'm tired. Very tired. I have good days and bad.
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great information.

NY is on American Psychiatric Association standards for treating and diagnosing DID not the American Psychological Association.

Example of differences...

psychological association is more concerned with state side where as psychiatric association is world wide.

psychological association does not publish the diagnostic manuals, they participate in the science side of things. where as the psychiatric association is who published the diagnostic manual of what is disorders, definitions and testing and so on.

its one of those weird things where two agencies are using the same initials but are two vastly different things.

When I said in my post that Clairity wont find treatment providers in NY treating DID by outdated standards of a personality disorder I meant this that is found on the APA (p meaning Psychiatry not Psychology) standards that DID is a dissociative disorder where someone has less than one personality not multiple personalities.

in other words here in NY treatment providers treat people with DID as ....one .... person. they are a human being with normal and dissociative type parts. what defines those parts as normal or dissociative type is the dissociation symptoms.

This definition of DID has been in place since 2013 but not made public for many years by the APA (P as in psychiatry not psychology.) thats what clairtytoo will find when looking for treatment providers here in NY.

he wont find therapists wanting him to be alternate personalities, or act out as alternate personalities, he will find therapists that treat dissociation symptoms and problems because by APA (psychiatry not psychology) standards DID is a dissociative disorder not a multiple personality disorder.

the reason I mention that and am explaining my post more clearly is because clarity and others many be looking for a therapist who treat them for multiple personalities when NY is now on a new standard.

you cant find therapists here in NY who treat in terms of Multiple personalities very often, a majority now treat this disorder differently (by symptoms and problems instead of disorder)

same disorder just different treatment approach now since the disorder is now labeled and defined as a dissociative disorder.

thanks again though for your links I found them interesting and remember seeing them before.

When you say "you cant find therapists here in NY who treat in terms of Multiple personalities very often, a majority now treat this disorder differently (by symptoms and problems instead of disorder)" What symptoms are you referring to? And what type of problems do you mean? I am confused by this explanation. Depression may be something held by only one of us. And this part may not be at each session. So what than is the t treating? And one of us might be having trouble with something work related but she is the only one that works and may not be at all the sessions. We don't all know everything about each other. Who would the t be helping if we weren't treated individually as our selves?
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Default Oct 24, 2021 at 10:55 PM
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When you say "you cant find therapists here in NY who treat in terms of Multiple personalities very often, a majority now treat this disorder differently (by symptoms and problems instead of disorder)" What symptoms are you referring to? And what type of problems do you mean? I am confused by this explanation. Depression may be something held by only one of us. And this part may not be at each session. So what than is the t treating? And one of us might be having trouble with something work related but she is the only one that works and may not be at all the sessions. We don't all know everything about each other. Who would the t be helping if we weren't treated individually as our selves?
Your treatment providers that you get will want your answers on how and why you dissociate, they are not going to want amandalouise feels such and such when she dissociates. I also dont want to feed in to your mind that what I go through for dissociation symptoms is what you are going through when.

you posted you dissociate and have been diagnosed DID so you know how and what causes you to dissociate. if you cant remember reread your past posts, you have many times if I remember right posted about your DID, your problems and symptoms here.

you can also print off your posts and show them to the treatment providers. that can help too.

I asked my therapist so which part are you treating when this part has this problem and that part has that problem. my therapist would say "Im treating you. one person with many normal and dissociated parts a package deal"

took me a while to figure it out. but I eventually did and you will too.

heres the problem claritytoo. Im writing from the point of view of already going through DID and integration. you are just beginning. some questions I cant give you detailed answers for because what if I give you tooooo much information that you and your internal system are ready for. it could harm you.

therefore most of the time I err on caution and ask you to ask your treatment providers. in your case you are not yet settled into a routine with a steady therapist but yet you need answers. the best thing I can do is tell you that it will all work out as it should. its just going to take time, and actually doing the work.

through working with your treatment provider you will learn what your triggers are, how you feel when you dissociate, how to do grounding, accessing normal and dissociated parts of you, while still staying grounded in self mode instead of dissociating.... it will all happen for you but one step at a time.

when I cant remember because of medications or what ever, I go back and reread my journals, posts and so on. if you cant remember your dissociation symptoms go into your past posts and read what you have wrote about how and why you dissociate. thats about all I can tell you at your stage of healing. Im sorry I cant go more into detail. but know that what ever therapist you end up with they will want to work on your dissociation, your problems, your triggers, its all about you for its your therapy work.
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Your treatment providers that you get will want your answers on how and why you dissociate, they are not going to want amandalouise feels such and such when she dissociates. I also dont want to feed in to your mind that what I go through for dissociation symptoms is what you are going through when.

you posted you dissociate and have been diagnosed DID so you know how and what causes you to dissociate. if you cant remember reread your past posts, you have many times if I remember right posted about your DID, your problems and symptoms here.

you can also print off your posts and show them to the treatment providers. that can help too.

I asked my therapist so which part are you treating when this part has this problem and that part has that problem. my therapist would say "Im treating you. one person with many normal and dissociated parts a package deal"

took me a while to figure it out. but I eventually did and you will too.

heres the problem claritytoo. Im writing from the point of view of already going through DID and integration. you are just beginning. some questions I cant give you detailed answers for because what if I give you tooooo much information that you and your internal system are ready for. it could harm you.

therefore most of the time I err on caution and ask you to ask your treatment providers. in your case you are not yet settled into a routine with a steady therapist but yet you need answers. the best thing I can do is tell you that it will all work out as it should. its just going to take time, and actually doing the work.

through working with your treatment provider you will learn what your triggers are, how you feel when you dissociate, how to do grounding, accessing normal and dissociated parts of you, while still staying grounded in self mode instead of dissociating.... it will all happen for you but one step at a time.

when I cant remember because of medications or what ever, I go back and reread my journals, posts and so on. if you cant remember your dissociation symptoms go into your past posts and read what you have wrote about how and why you dissociate. thats about all I can tell you at your stage of healing. Im sorry I cant go more into detail. but know that what ever therapist you end up with they will want to work on your dissociation, your problems, your triggers, its all about you for its your therapy work.

I'm not certain you actually understood the question I asked but I appreciate the suggestion of printing out my posts and giving them to the therapist. Thanks
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Ok a just got a return call from a psychologist I contacted a few days ago. We talked and she believes she can work with me and I can work with her. She is familiar with DID and didn't seemed put off by it. That was a relief. I have to fill out forms than she will schedule an appointment. I felt really grateful on the phone and was shaking after I hung up. I just want to be able to talk to someone.
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