Our Newest alters

Hey every one it’s Sally I’m still a human ghost but anyway out right now we all have different skills that Zelda dosnt have I can do some dancing and Claire can do some tennis and Rose is good at video games Ben can bake too like cakes and brownies Zelda is good at video games to but Rose helps her out some only if Zelda wants some of us can sing lots of skills Zelda is good at writing some our original any ways hope you all have a great night 😁

-Sally Williams/Dark

Hi Sally!

Hey omg it’s Taylor I’m 16 my skill is make up and I like almond milk I’m out right now we love shopping but our original ask for some money from her parents they give some to her we bought a Nintendo switch light pink which is for Zelda and a lot of us 😊 and a few songs I’m a witch too my mother is Lori and my sister is Ava in the system omg we also by close sometime we bought a jacket that some of the like it’s nice meeting every one have a awesome day

-Taylor Gray protector/Gatekeeper

It’s Zelda still I have amnesia episodes don’t even know my parents right now my alters help me which helps they just tell who they are but I don’t know personally my head dose feel fuzzy too the episode comes and goes but I seriously don’t know my parents my alter just told me I live with them anyway it’s scary have a good night

-Zelda

Hi friends it’s Tammi White I’m 3 but the world doesn’t seem real or other people I have blue eyes and black white hair and black fairy wings I love dark chocolate its yummy! I also love puppies 🐶 and kittens 🐈* we love candy us littles in our system Have a fun night we are trying our best

-Tammi

Hey it’s Zelda Anna came back so it’s back to 46 of us hope you all have a good night she is 35 and still looks the same

-Zelda

So Martha left so it’s back down to 45 it’s Zelda

-Zelda

So Rose and Anna are best friends this is how they sound like in my head it’s Zelda

Rose: hey Anna you know Zelda well?
Anna: yes since she was three
Rose: oh your Bens mom? Right? I’ve heard of you
Anna: yes and your my daughter in law your look cool with your blood eyes Rose
Rose: same you have black eyes with blood too I’m a demon your a ghost
Anna: yes and I could give you some mothering tips
Rose: thank you Anna!
And so on it’s like that 24/7 difference topics randomly in my head literally

I actually didn’t know what a daughter in law was tell Anna said it she loves to use big words because she likes to read a lot and loves Lemon sweets it’s Zelda

-Zelda

Zelda original Anna Ben Tiffany Meghan shadow Annie Bell Marry June Nathan Kate (Katlen) Ally (Alison) Sally El Elli Laura Lori Jill Rose Lily Liam Henry Luna Star Tammi Caroline Nikole Nikki Zoey Tanner Toney Aura Venus Tom Eve Ava Steven Sage Clair Mark Mike Jake Ryan and Roxey that’s all of us have a good night meds are helping to have some peace in my head sometimes

-Zelda

My name is Meghan I’m new to the world Dont know were I am but the other alters say I’m at home wich helps some I’m 40 with a deep red dress and a red cloak and red wings and pointy ears black eyes and light red hair and I’m confused don’t really know Zelda tell the alter said her name my daughter is Anna and my mother is Tiffany my husband is Shadow Midnight that all I know I’m a new alter I feel lost

-Meghan Midnight caretaker/gatekeeper

Hi Meghan!

We have caretakers and gatekeepers in our system, too!

Hi Zelda & Co.

We have a bunch of alters, too.

We can't say their names right now, but one day we will be able to share - hopefully.

Thank you for sharing!

Hey it’s Zelda We don’t think DID is rare a lot of people have it and we even have an awareness day have a good night

-Zelda

I’ve slowly become aware of my DID. I don’t know how many. But Jeremy has co-fronted with me many times before. I’ve done my research but I still feel unsure of a lot when it comes to my own system.

1. I have one that from what people have told me is definitely Jeremy. They don’t know I have no memory of these interactions. I also know because I’ve felt like I’ve watched him while I was in “the back seat.”

2. There’s another, though who can’t be Jeremy. This one seems to be a lot more interested in fun but occasionally volatile. He’s not mean but bolder.

I’ve found notes in my phone, and around the house I don’t remember leaving. Entries in journals, texts, the works, but I can’t seem to communicate with them. I don’t know who they are, or what they’re doing until I find whatever they left behind. Like makeup and clothes I’d never buy, or stories from others that don’t sound right. I wouldn’t believe it all if it weren’t for the memory gaps.

How do I find out more about them? I can’t afford regular therapy.

We agree with you, Zelda! Thank you for saying that.

Here's our thoughts on this:

There are continued controversies surrounding dissociative disorders, some of which have been deemed "rare," "culture-bound," "somatoform," and/or "ficticious." Others have previously categorized DID as a personality disorder (when Axis II disorders were still being used, and the DID was formerly MPD); but research had found that it's (a) an Axis I disorder (when there were such axes), and (b) it's dissociation-based, not personality-based. Furthermore, DID is NOT a "worse form of any personality disorder, including borderline personality disorder." While there may be some with comorbidity with borderline personality disorder, many people with DID do not have that disorder.

That said, many people with DID do meet the requirements for PTSD as well as the newfound controversial CPTSD (complex post-traumatic stress disorder). Again, CPTSD might be along the continuum of dissociative disorders, but it remains unclear whether or not there's a continuum there or merely an overlap between two disorders (i.e., comorbidity). Further, CPTSD is also thought to not be a personality disorder either, and many people with borderline personality disorder are thought to have been misdiagnosed with that disorder when, in reality, they have CPTSD instead.

Personality disorders are also highly controversial disorders, insofar that research continues to use such to describe adolescents and younger, even though ethically, practitioners should not diagnose personality disorders until a person has reached the age of 18 and has an extensive history that goes beyond being simply situational (as opposed to dispositional). Personality disorders are thought to be more dispositional, whereas trauma-based and anxiety-based disorders are thought to be more situational.

It would therefore be that, since a few personality disorders have been removed from the DSM (I think "passive-aggressive personality disorder" was removed), it would follow that, perhaps, borderline personality should also be removed as well. If dissociation and trauma have affected a person's emotion regulation, then borderline would be best thought of as a post-traumatic emotion dysregulation disorder. If the person with an emotion dysregulation disorder frequently has conduct issues, then there might be comorbidity with conduct disorder or antisocial personality disorder, as opposed to those features being lumped into one category of borderline personality disorder. The other personality disorders might have a lot to do with childhood neglect (the environment) coupled with a predisposition in the brain (biological/neurological features) to exact an actual personality disorder, but some people actually have personality disorders without any form of childhood abuse or neglect (i.e., childhood interpersonal trauma). When persons don't recall how they react to others in the instances of high stress, high trauma triggers, etc., then it is thought that dissociation might be another symptom either common to that particular disorder or comorbid with that disorder, since dissociation is thought to be trauma-related (including medical traumas that cause amnesia). Thus, dissociation should really be considered a form of trauma-related disorders and not just one out there on its own. (There's still, to this day, little emphasis on medical traumas, including repercussions from physical abuse, sexual abuse, medical malpractice, iatrogenic effects of medical mistakes or medical treatments given with true warnings, medical experimentation, ICU-related traumas, birth-related traumas, and even pandemic-related traumas. Some dissociation could stem from such medical traumas as well, even those that have occurred in childhood.)

The False Memory Syndrome Foundation is comprised of parents who were accused of child maltreatment coupled with lawyers affirming that parental rights are more important than children's rights. However, history has shown that children have consistently been abused and mistreated by certain parents with certain historical traumas and/or individual dispositions, and that it took animal rights (because animals had more rights than children at some point) to affirm children's rights in a court of law. Such animal rights that afforded children's rights gave birth to (a) the child welfare system and (b) the juvenile justice (therapeutic jurisprudence) system, whereby parental powers (parens patriae) and rehabilitation paradigms were more appropriate for youth and dysfunctional families than police powers (letter of the law) and related parental rights. Prior to this time, parents could ask the courts to have their children put to death. The False Memory Syndrome Foundation sought to fight against trauma-related disorders - in particular, dissociative disorders - in order to bring back parental rights and allow defendants once again to have more rights than victims (in this case, child victims). Dissociative disorders were made to be "false" - in much the same manner as disinformation is spreading about "false news" or "false this" or "false that." Things that are, in fact, NOT FALSE are being seen as "false" because of continued disinformation from those who, by and large, lack empathy and are abusers, spreaders of harm, and/or instigators of harm - who simply want to maintain power and control no matter how harmful their actions are to do so.

So, over time, dissociative disorders have continued to be questioned by society and those attempting to learn about it. In many of the same ways that our own educational system has been censored, so, too, has the education and therefore research funding for dissociative disorders also been censured.

Just read over all the controversial discussions about dissociative disorders, and then see which political leanings there are between those who are for and against the diagnosis and treatment for such disorders. You will find at least a correlation there. You will also find a correlation between those who uphold parental rights versus those who are proponents for children's rights. You see that today, in terms of medical neglect traumas being inflicted on children right before our very eyes, but no one seems to care about the kids, about the elderly, about the disabled, and about those with invisible disabilities (such as cancer, mental disorders, and immunocompromising disorders). All are controversial because of politics, and what's included in politics are defendant's rights to - basically - not get caught and then punished for their crimes against humans, society, etc., including children.

So, there's a lot behind why the DID diagnosis is controversial, and why people think it is "rare." It's actually more common than you think.

There are many people who are misdiagnosed with schizophrenia, schizoaffective, schizotypal, bipolar, fictive, somatoform, and personality disorders because they were actually DID with CPTSD instead. When the voices and images are on the inside (as opposed to the outside), it's most likely (not always) DID or at least a form of dissociation. Conversely, when the voices and images are on the outside (as opposed to the inside), it's most likely some sort of psychosis, delusion, or schizophrenia. I say most likely because it could be that there is comorbidity involved with dissociative disorders, or it could be that schizophrenia or other psychotic-based disorders have similarities to dissociation when voices and images are seen on both the inside and the outside or just on the inside as well. But history has shown us that DID is largely under-diagnosed, and that it could be more prevalent than what is stated today.

For these reasons, finding treatment for DID is really challenging. Also, getting a proper diagnosis is also challenging.

Hi and welcome to the Forums. It is nice to meet you.

I am sorry that you are burdened with DID. That must be an extremely heavy burden to bear. I do not know enough about DID to be able to be very helpful. I am wondering whether there are some self-help books out there in bookstores or public libraries that might be helpful? Or books one could order on the Internet?

There are people here on the Forums who struggle with DID. I hope they will see your post and respond to it in a kindly and helpful way. I want to wish you only the very best and apologize for not being able to be helpful to you!

So it’s Tiffany out we are real even though we are imaginary friends and Alters but Zelda believes in us we do talk to each other in her head not through ears anyway her parents and doct done understand she will pretend she doesn’t believe in us in front of them thanks for lessoning plus our therapist believes in us she has talk to some of us before that’s why we are seeing her she even has talked to other systems alters and yes she has talked to us one of our older therapist our first one a long time ago Didnt believe in us Zelda got confused before we got Diagnosed we just had schizophrenia then but her second therapist did he was nice but he specialized in addition which we didn’t have so we didn’t see him anymore but our current therapist dose understand us she is nice to Zelda got confused we had three therapist in the past now just have two NAMI and our current one

-Tiffany Snow

So it’s Zelda I just now remember our last therapist who will still see has helped us out I don’t know but she said she has talked to my alters she even has said “your not there when they come out” I didn’t remember but Tiffany told me that they did talk to them she is a nice therapist I’m will be seeing her again next week have a good night and she knows there is 45 of us

-Zelda

We are on a diet tell thanksgiving and then back on it tell Christmas then the rest of the holidays then back on it in January we trying to lose weight I get some of my alters on the diet program we are in for example Rose likes salt so I give her a salt diet dinner and some of us crave dark chocolate which I give them chocolate ice cream on our diet my mom is on it too with us or me the original can’t have fried or sweets or chips or surger but can have diet soda which my littles think are ok but they can’t have regular soda because we are in the same body but they can still enjoy soda just not the one with sugar we will be on it for months because our anti psychotics and anti depressant makes our weight gain so that’s why we are on a diet the littles like the chocolate diet milk shake they are good have a good night it’s Zelda

-Zelda