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Old Feb 28, 2024, 11:08 AM
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There is an advantage in varying your workouts. Like doing easy/hard days, longer/shorter workouts, faster & shorter vs longer and slower.
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Old Feb 28, 2024, 04:24 PM
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And add stretching seesaw to help prevent overuse injury. You are already doing a lot but stretching on top of it will help.
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Between walking and running I got in 9.3 miles so far. Still need to get dinner and head to the shelter.
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Old Feb 28, 2024, 11:11 PM
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There is an advantage in varying your workouts. Like doing easy/hard days, longer/shorter workouts, faster & shorter vs longer and slower.
I'm not debating that. I'm debating whether the guideline on the amount of time. Do ppl see better results working out for 1 hour 3x a week or 30 minutes 5 times a week?

Regardless, for now I need to do slow and steady and not be too intense so I don't hurt myself.

But regarding the science I am curious. Obviously intensity plays a part. But I am curious about the time recommendation.

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Old Feb 28, 2024, 11:21 PM
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Well it's my understanding that 30-45 min / day just maintains fitness, and that one needs 90 minutes most days to improve. My personal experiences, 20 and 40 years ago, took 10 hrs /wk (for several months) to lose 40 lbs.
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Old Feb 29, 2024, 01:54 AM
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Well it's my understanding that 30-45 min / day just maintains fitness, and that one needs 90 minutes most days to improve. My personal experiences, 20 and 40 years ago, took 10 hrs /wk (for several months) to lose 40 lbs.
Not necessarily only to maintain. If you aren't starting at the baseline of 30 minutes a day then that will contribute to weight loss.

In general weight loss is attributed to diet, not exercise.

But I guess my question is getting lost in translation. No worries.

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Old Feb 29, 2024, 05:09 AM
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Sorry! Ive read that breaking the 30 min per day into 3 ten minute sessions is still a 30 minute workout, so i would say the answer to your orig question is yes.

But to take it to its other extreme, thats why they say being a "weekend warrior" and only working out like 2 consecutive days is problematic. But you are being active even on your off-days.

Again, sorry for going off topic. I just have a really hard time with fixed schedules.
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Old Feb 29, 2024, 08:19 AM
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So far I've had a serving of blueberry almonds, a serving of dill pickle cashews, 1oz of Prosciutto, a medium cinnamon vanilla iced coffee, and a mini Baybel cheese. I am currently at 670 calories, 48 grams of carbs, and 25 grams of protein.
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Old Feb 29, 2024, 12:25 PM
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Sorry! Ive read that breaking the 30 min per day into 3 ten minute sessions is still a 30 minute workout, so i would say the answer to your orig question is yes.

But to take it to its other extreme, thats why they say being a "weekend warrior" and only working out like 2 consecutive days is problematic. But you are being active even on your off-days.

Again, sorry for going off topic. I just have a really hard time with fixed schedules.
No worries. I guess really I just am trying to validate that doing 30 minutes a day will get me there right now, since it's what I can commit to. In the past I would go hard, very intense, 3 times a week or more, but I'd end up injured or over tired, or doing too much, etc.

I need to focus on work and other things, but I want to be able to focus on my health in the meantime. I know, and research shows, that diet is truly the contributing factor to weight loss, but daily activity plays a role in overall health. So I'm just trying to get balanced right now.
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Old Mar 01, 2024, 12:56 AM
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Diet plays the leading role in weight loss, but exercise is the best longevity drug available. I listened to podcasts from Rhonda Patrick, PhD, who researched the benefits of sauna and even though they are significant and she is a champion, even she recognizes that nothing beats exercise. She says "exercise is king".
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Old Mar 01, 2024, 12:58 AM
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75 minutes of low intensity cardio, grey and blue Orangetheory zones.

I read yesterday that low intensity cardio is good when you have a bronchitis (I do), so I decided to try it indeed I feel and breathe better.

Did those 75 minutes as a mixture of:

- rowing machine
- recumbent elliptical
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Old Mar 01, 2024, 03:14 PM
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I've had a serving of almonds, a sumo orange, a piece of cheese, an Atkins bar, and 120 calorie pack of pistachios. And a can of Coke and a small coffee. Either I'm nauseated or anxious today but I'm not in the mood to eat. I'm at 956 calories, 145 carbs and 23 grams of protein.

I may figure something else out later. I know I'm low.
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Old Mar 01, 2024, 03:19 PM
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Ugh i need to go on dr nows diet. I gained 20 lbs since i started insulin. If his 500 lb person can lose 50 lbs a month, i can lose a proportional amount, right? Protein and veg for me from now on. Like im gonna follow that.

ETA - Okay, friday lunch went okay. Tuna over riced cauliflower and one tortilla, 15 gm carb. Thats cutting my carbs waaaay down from usual, and i feel good and energetic and not hungry. I need to keep shooting for the energized. I think my parents used to overstuff me at dinner in order to just calm my butt down.

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Old Mar 01, 2024, 09:33 PM
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Went to a 60 min yin yoga class. It was my first time doing yoga while having vertigo. It made for an interesting, rather enjoyable experience.

Had 8 oz of warm water afterwards. In 30 minutes will eat a complete meal. Maybe then my head will stop spinning.
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Made a meal! An iron-rich meal. Cooked ground beef in my new cast iron skillet. Then added onion, sauteed them. Then added canned diced tomatoes, tomato sauce, and some water. Cooked all of that on medium for some time. I know that makes iron from the skillet emit into the meal which is good for me (I am anemic). Then I added dried thyme, oregano and black pepper. Then I cooked while wheat spaghetti, adding frozen peas to the boiling water at the end. Then I ate this and fairly quickly became full. Did not want to finish the dish. Packed leftovers for tomorrow. That was some time ago and I am still feeling full and now will go to bed. I am afraid to jinx it, but it looks like my hunger pangs are gone.

I wore my weighted vest today. Both while sitting and while standing. I count that as extra exercise.
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I actually lost a pound now that I'm off the Wellbutrin and back on the lamictal instead. Today hasn't been too bad and my hunger has been fine. I've been a bit heavy on the sugary drinks though. I ordered some more Atkin meals and some bottled water. I like the vapor distilled kind.
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My weight has moved down by a bit. I am trying not to be overly optimistic.
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I always say, my weight "fluctuates" UP - it almost NEVER fluctuates DOWN. Thatz not a thing! Thats a bona fide loss!
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I get its not excercising but I did get 3 huge piles of laundry folded that have just been sitting in my closet. And I got another load done that I washed and theres one more in the dryer. It was a lot of clothes that have just been sitting there for a few weeks. So I consider that movement.
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I just read some place that doing laundry is considered exercise if you are carrying heavy loads of clothes.
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10 mins walking sideways in water

50 mins swimming

Feeling great after all of that.
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@Buffy01, you might find this relevant:

Swimming and asthma. Benefits and deleterious effects - PubMed.
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This is from Cleveland Clinic:

"At 50% to 60% of your maximum heart rate, you’re using 85% fat to burn calories.
At 60% to 70% of your maximum heart rate, that drops to 65% fat being used.
And at 70% to 80%, you’re only using 45% fat to burn calories."
How Heart Rate Monitors Benefit Your Health.

I have tried slowing down to hit the lowest intensity range. I can do it on the recumbent bike/elliptical. I cannot seem to do on the rower: even if I go slowly, my HR rises.
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And if you are taking a beta blocker, you will just never get your heart rate up, so all that goes to heck, and you are left with a metabolism slowed by about 200 cal / day.
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And if you are taking a beta blocker, you will just never get your heart rate up, so all that goes to heck, and you are left with a metabolism slowed by about 200 cal / day.
Really?? that is what blood pressure lowering meds do to you??
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