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Default Nov 02, 2021 at 04:14 PM
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When people decides who does or doesn’t have the right to like something or just disses on your interests and hobbies or likes or passions in general. I’ve often seen this done with the older generation who look down on the younger generations for their music taste. I saw a meme my aunt had posted with Kanye West sitting with Paul Mcartney and the meme said “if you don’t know the guy on the right (Paul) but you know the guy on the left (Kanye) I feel like slapping your parents. That’s considered gate keeping

Another form of gate keeping is hating on someone who wears a T shirt of a band they don’t listen to. They just like the T shirt for whatever reason.

Then there’s also the type of gate keeping of grouping an entire generation based on a single incident. For example calling Gen Z the tide pod generation. Although I have been guilty of doing this before since Gen Z can be sort of bully’s at times about other generations

Does this type of stuff bug anyone else?

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Default Nov 02, 2021 at 04:30 PM
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Yeah well tide pod is gonna be a hard one to live down! Altho, maybe you guys were just anticipating trumps orders to gargle with lysol and inject bleach? In which case, your comeback could be that you are all obviously presidential material! You were just ahead of your time!

Just look for the silver lining, the way to throw it back on people.

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Default Nov 02, 2021 at 04:57 PM
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I’m a millennial and I don’t support the orange one but I do know every generation has had some strange challenge/fad. People in the 20’s were swallowing live goldfish. The hula hoop was in the 50’s. Was it the 60’s where people were seeing how many people they could fit in a Volkswagen Beetle? My generation had the choking/black out challenge. Which was super dangerous and I never did. We also had the chubby bunny challenge where we had to see how many marshmallows we could fit into our mouth and a kid ended up dying doing it. I’ve also heard of Gen Z dying their entire eyeballs black and going blind. Which they learned of course from Tik Tok. Where else. Flash Mobs from the early 2010’s were cool though. Every generation since the 50’s or 60’s did variations of Bloody Mary.

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Default Nov 02, 2021 at 06:27 PM
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Yep ever since ancient greek times they have been lamenting the coming generation.

When you look at how erudite the founding fathers were, you gotta wonder. The New Yorker had an interesting story / book review about Henry Adams i think it was. Not a president, but a grandson or something. And spent his time writing about the times. I think i would find it worth my while to look into, to give me some hope and direction.
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Default Nov 03, 2021 at 06:47 AM
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It bothers me.

I blame educators for these divisions.

When I was a nontraditional middle-aged undergrad, my younger 20-something peers would tell me that I'm taking their peer's spot by going to college late, that I'm robbing them of their Social Security, that I'm slower than them because I'm older and have an older brain. They would cite their professors' statements about older folk.

Meanwhile, in a different world of I/O Psychology, the professor there would cite how "lazy" the younger generations are, how "rude" the younger generations are, how "disrespectful" the younger generations are, how "entitled" the younger generations are.

Then, not too long afterward, the "ok boomer" attitude became a thing. They even said it to the Gen Xers, because they lumped us into some apologetic category.

And all these things stemmed from Gen Xers teaching all the younger ones about these new terms, about social science, about economics, about politics, about ageism, and about divisions.

If it weren't for this cycle of education (stemming from high school on up), all the generations might just get along.

"Indoctrination" is more than CRT; "indoctrination" - defined in some cases as "fragility" from the opponents and "divisive" from the proponents is similar in all judgmental revenge-science theories pinning one social group against the other - and within the context of "education."

So here we are.
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Default Nov 03, 2021 at 12:14 PM
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What? There is an irony is blaming all educators for what ails you while complaining about people blaming all of a group for something else. Just sayin'.

And please don't speak of CRT and "indoctrination" in relation to education . . . I don't even know where to begin with that one. It's a political insanity about something that just isn't really happening on any grand scale (barely on a small scale). My high schoolers and the college kids I know (many) just roll their eyes at the idea that they are so fragile that their beliefs and values are going to be changed by that one weird teacher or professor. Kids tend to be smarter than their parents realize about these things - they aren't the fragile butterflies their parents believe them to be.

Some of the stupid antics of any generation are, honestly, worthy of criticism, but take it as a criticism of the stupid antics, not of the entire group.

If it doesn't pertain to you, don't own it. In general, many people are much too easily offended these days. Don't own what isn't yours. Roll your eyes and move on.
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Default Nov 03, 2021 at 12:56 PM
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It seems that you are one of the easily offended people that you mentioned.

My post was meant to just be for fun. It was not meant to be turned into a big political discussion.

Lighten up and have some fun.

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It seems that you are one of the easily offended people that you mentioned.

My post was meant to just be for fun. It was not meant to be turned into a big political discussion.

Lighten up and have some fun.
Actually no. Just pointing out the irony of the argument and responding to those who did take the question seriously.

You do not need to tell me to lighten up. I'm fine.
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It bothers me.

I blame educators for these divisions.

When I was a nontraditional middle-aged undergrad, my younger 20-something peers would tell me that I'm taking their peer's spot by going to college late, that I'm robbing them of their Social Security, that I'm slower than them because I'm older and have an older brain. They would cite their professors' statements about older folk.

Meanwhile, in a different world of I/O Psychology, the professor there would cite how "lazy" the younger generations are, how "rude" the younger generations are, how "disrespectful" the younger generations are, how "entitled" the younger generations are.

Then, not too long afterward, the "ok boomer" attitude became a thing. They even said it to the Gen Xers, because they lumped us into some apologetic category.

And all these things stemmed from Gen Xers teaching all the younger ones about these new terms, about social science, about economics, about politics, about ageism, and about divisions.

If it weren't for this cycle of education (stemming from high school on up), all the generations might just get along.

"Indoctrination" is more than CRT; "indoctrination" - defined in some cases as "fragility" from the opponents and "divisive" from the proponents is similar in all judgmental revenge-science theories pinning one social group against the other - and within the context of "education."

So here we are.
Both I and my husband went to school again later in life. No one ever told us we took someone’s spot or are slow or taking someone else’s social security (how?).

Who are these people who told you that? Were they talking to you directly actually telling you that you have slow brain?

I can’t wrap my mind around it. I know many people who obtain degrees later in life. I’ve never heard them having issues with 20-year olds peers. No one typically cares about college students’ age. Non traditional students isn’t anything unusual and it’s extremely common. Who are these people who care?

In addition college education in the US isn’t free so how can anyone take anyone’s spot? I paid my tuition and John Smith paid his. Both usually owe student loan regardless of age. This is puzzling. What kind of college did you attend where your younger peers spoke like this to you ?
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Default Nov 03, 2021 at 11:02 PM
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I do not run into “gate keeping” in my life.

I wonder if these are some particular crowds that do the kind of thing? Now yes some people like to generalize as many lack critical thinking skills hence they generalize or succumb to conspiracy theories. I just keep my distance from them.

Most decent folks don’t care what music others listen to or what shirts they wear. Most people are too busy to worry about others’ preferences.
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Both I and my husband went to school again later in life. No one ever told us we took someone’s spot or are slow or taking someone else’s social security (how?).

Who are these people who told you that? Were they talking to you directly actually telling you that you have slow brain?

I can’t wrap my mind around it. I know many people who obtain degrees later in life. I’ve never heard them having issues with 20-year olds peers. No one typically cares about college students’ age. Non traditional students isn’t anything unusual and it’s extremely common. Who are these people who care?

In addition college education in the US isn’t free so how can anyone take anyone’s spot? I paid my tuition and John Smith paid his. Both usually owe student loan regardless of age. This is puzzling. What kind of college did you attend where your younger peers spoke like this to you ?
Yes, sadly. I was in a McNair program (of all things), where the director told me that "older people don't do well in this program," and the competition to get into a PhD program (specifically) was very cut-throat. Some of my peers in that program told me that. This was back in 2014. I actually reported these things and wound up leaving the program, due to health complications and the program not accommodating me the same way the classes accommodated me. I found issue with that, even though it was supposed to be a program for all minorities, just just one particular kind.

I was really hurt.
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Default Nov 05, 2021 at 05:59 AM
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I started school at 60! My younger peers treated me as one of them (perhaps because I still feel 18!)
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