Why is mental illness a banned topic?

Discombobulated · Jan 26, 2023 at 07:51 AM

I don’t think it’s fair to generalise, some people are more open about mental health issues than others, that would depend on a lot of things, personal experiences, education, social conditioning. Some people are still afraid to discuss, for the same reasons. Others will discuss some mental health issues more easily than others, for example depression or anxiety, but less comfortable with more complex issues like psychosis for example.

How we see the world tends to be based on what we’ve personally experienced.

Willowtigger Im sorry you’ve experienced stigma. I hope coming here has given you freedom to discuss and be heard.

divine1966 · Jan 26, 2023 at 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Discombobulated

I don’t think it’s fair to generalise, some people are more open about mental health issues than others, that would depend on a lot of things, personal experiences, education, social conditioning. Some people are still afraid to discuss, for the same reasons. Others will discuss some mental health issues more easily than others, for example depression or anxiety, but less comfortable with more complex issues like psychosis for example.

How we see the world tends to be based on what we’ve personally experienced.

Willowtigger Im sorry you’ve experienced stigma. I hope coming here has given you freedom to discuss and be heard.

It makes good sense. Of course many people are not comfortable and are afraid to speak about mental illness and often for very good reasons. And of course it’s based on subjective experience.

But the question in the original post was about MH topics being “banned”. That’s what people are responding to.

If a question was why people are afraid or uncomfortable to speak about mental illness, that would be a different story. And it would be a great topic to discuss. But that’s not what being originally asked. So I don’t see generalizations here.

Discombobulated · Jan 26, 2023 at 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by divine1966

It makes good sense. Of course many people are not comfortable and are afraid to speak about mental illness and often for very good reasons. And of course it’s based on subjective experience.

But the question in the original post was about MH topics being “banned”. That’s what people are responding to.

If a question was why people are afraid or uncomfortable to speak about mental illness, that would be a different story. And it would be a great topic to discuss. But that’s not what being originally asked. So I don’t see generalizations here.

I think the use of the word ‘banned’ may reflect the user’s experience, they may have felt they were ‘banned’ from talking about this because of their personal experience. This is how I’m reading the post.

divine1966 · Jan 26, 2023 at 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Discombobulated

I think the use of the word ‘banned’ may reflect the user’s experience, they may have felt they were ‘banned’ from talking about this because of their personal experience. This is how I’m reading the post.

It could be that the poster feels it’s banned. But it looks like most people understood that the poster thinks these topics are actually banned, that’s why everyone responds saying these topics aren’t banned. So people aren’t generalizing, but rather responding to a question. That’s how I am reading people’s responses.

littleblackdog · Jan 26, 2023 at 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Discombobulated

I don’t think it’s fair to generalise, some people are more open about mental health issues than others, that would depend on a lot of things, personal experiences, education, social conditioning. Some people are still afraid to discuss, for the same reasons. Others will discuss some mental health issues more easily than others, for example depression or anxiety, but less comfortable with more complex issues like psychosis for example.

How we see the world tends to be based on what we’ve personally experienced.

Willowtigger Im sorry you’ve experienced stigma. I hope coming here has given you freedom to discuss and be heard.

But the OP started the post with massive generalisations. I live in the UK and mental illness is by no means taboo or banned. As I stated there is some stigma associated with some mental illness but it is nowhere near as bad as the OP made it sound.
There have been campaigns to raise awareness of mental illness and it is something that is increasingly talked about over here, so is by no means taboo or a banned topic.

Discombobulated · Jan 26, 2023 at 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by littleblackdog

But the OP started the post with massive generalisations. I live in the UK and mental illness is by no means taboo or banned. As I stated there is some stigma associated with some mental illness but it is nowhere near as bad as the OP made it sound.
There have been campaigns to raise awareness of mental illness and it is something that is increasingly talked about over here, so is by no means taboo or a banned topic.

I understand what you’re saying, I also understand that the OP felt the way they did although they didn’t elaborate further on their experience. Both responses are valid imo.

Jan 26, 2023 at 11:24 AM

In this village there is certaintly stigma, even the doctors in the surgery dont want to deal at all with mental illness

Discombobulated · Jan 26, 2023 at 11:50 AM

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In this village there is certaintly stigma, even the doctors in the surgery dont want to deal at all with mental illness

Willowtigger did you try to talk to your doctors about mental health issues? What did they say to you?

divine1966 · Jan 26, 2023 at 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by willowtigger

In this village there is certaintly stigma, even the doctors in the surgery dont want to deal at all with mental illness

Have you asked to see a psychiatrist? Is it possible? I know it’s not easy to get referred to one, but if your GP refuses to discuss your mental health concern, how do they expect you to get help?

A family member of mine used her private insurance to get mental health help because sadly wait list with NHS was way too long and help needed rather immediate.

When did you see your primary care doctors last?

Jan 26, 2023 at 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by divine1966

Have you asked to see a psychiatrist? Is it possible? I know it’s not easy to get referred to one, but if your GP refuses to discuss your mental health concern, how do they expect you to get help?

A family member of mine used her private insurance to get mental health help because sadly wait list with NHS was way too long and help needed rather immediate.

When did you see your primary care doctors last?

Before covid kicked off is when i last saw them, its impossible to get appointments with them nowadays, meaning everyone goes to A&E, which isnt the right place to get mental health help when i'm not a danger to myself

which means i had to let someone at work know i have mental health issues, which wasnt ideal, but i know work offer counselling sessions sometimes, but even they are overloaded so i'm low on their priority list, i'm having to look into private which isnt as easy as it sounds either cause they are all full as well .......

Jan 26, 2023 at 02:08 PM

This village is a dump anyway, one day I want to get out of this dump and go somewhere better.

I'm referring to the village I live in, thats what i'm calling a rat and litter infested dump, not this forum

just so its clear

and yes there are literally rats around here, neighbours leave food out which is encouraging them, cause they cannot be arsed to bag stuff up to put it in the wheelie bins

I'm unlikely to be able to move until Willow and Tigger are both gone to rainbow bridge

Discombobulated · Jan 26, 2023 at 03:04 PM

Willowtigger, it is difficult to access mental health resources on the NHS, and I’m sorry to read you can’t seem to access your GP at the moment.

Did you know you can self refer to NHS mental health talk therapy through an online form? The waiting list may be long unfortunately but there is an option to do this.

Would you like me to post a link here for you to take a look?

Jan 26, 2023 at 03:10 PM

which online forum is it that the link is posted on? thanks disco

I don't want you to get into a trouble for linking to somewhere else

Jan 26, 2023 at 03:12 PM

I'm not exactly happy with one of the doctors at the practice anyways cause back when Ebony was still with me, she wanted me to rehome both Ebony and Tigger

Her reason: she is not a cat person herself

even though at no point did I take Ebony or Tigger with me there.

Discombobulated · Jan 26, 2023 at 03:19 PM

@willowtigger

Find an NHS talking therapies services - NHS

If it’s not allowed then I apologise but this is the official NHS referral form, good luck!

Jan 26, 2023 at 03:21 PM

Literally people only move here to this dump if they cannot buy anywhere else for any reason. There's only one other place here that is a bigger dump than this village, and that particular town is getting worse and worse. They are getting caught in a cycle of "places close down there cause they are losing too much stuff to theifs who cannot afford to buy stuff they need anyways, businesses closing down is making more people struggle to afford essentials cause of the loss of jobs, which is forcing more people into having to steal from the businesses that are left, which is then forcing more businesses to close (all the small businesses there are gone, there's just a couple of supermarkets, a few charity shops, and a couple of businesses that don't contain stuff that can be stole), charity shops don't have paid staff, supermarkets have as many staff as they need there, so yeah that town is dying on its feet, businesses won't open up there now cause they don't want to get half their stock stole, even the police, when they go there, they go mob-handed to deal with anything

Jan 26, 2023 at 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Discombobulated

@willowtigger

Find an NHS talking therapies services - NHS

If it’s not allowed then I apologise but this is the official NHS referral form, good luck!

ok thanks disco, hope you dont get into a troubles for posting it for me

divine1966 · Jan 26, 2023 at 03:41 PM

Sadly we have the same issue in the US when people in small towns or rural areas just don’t have the same access to things. Longer wait and so on. What a shame.

Jan 26, 2023 at 03:49 PM

if disco gets into a trouble for posting the link, its willowtigger to blame

Discombobulated · Jan 26, 2023 at 04:24 PM

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if disco gets into a trouble for posting the link, its willowtigger to blame

Not at all willowtigger, please don’t worry about this. I’m okay!

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Anonymous32448 Guest Posts: n/a	Jan 26, 2023 at 11:24 AM #27 In this village there is certaintly stigma, even the doctors in the surgery dont want to deal at all with mental illness
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Anonymous32448 Guest Posts: n/a	Jan 26, 2023 at 03:10 PM #33 which online forum is it that the link is posted on? thanks disco I don't want you to get into a trouble for linking to somewhere else
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Anonymous32448 Guest Posts: n/a	Jan 26, 2023 at 03:12 PM #34 I'm not exactly happy with one of the doctors at the practice anyways cause back when Ebony was still with me, she wanted me to rehome both Ebony and Tigger Her reason: she is not a cat person herself even though at no point did I take Ebony or Tigger with me there.
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Discombobulated Grand Magnate Member Since Oct 2019 Location: UK Posts: 4,692 (SuperPoster!) 4 11.6k hugs given	Jan 26, 2023 at 03:19 PM #35 @willowtigger Find an NHS talking therapies services - NHS If it’s not allowed then I apologise but this is the official NHS referral form, good luck!
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divine1966 Legendary Wise Elder Member Since Dec 2014 Location: US Posts: 22,372 (SuperPoster!) 9 1,277 hugs given	Jan 26, 2023 at 03:41 PM #38 Sadly we have the same issue in the US when people in small towns or rural areas just don’t have the same access to things. Longer wait and so on. What a shame.
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Anonymous32448 Guest Posts: n/a	Jan 26, 2023 at 03:49 PM #39 if disco gets into a trouble for posting the link, its willowtigger to blame
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