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Default Sep 10, 2013 at 06:55 AM
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...don't watch Jim Norton stand up comedy, because he's an bumhat. :\ Watching him now, and he just utterly tore into hoarders. I know the title is "Please Be Offended", but seriously - there's a line, surely? Loved what I was seeing, until he got to that, although a few other jokes were like, ... OK, but inappropriate. Maybe I'm just too sensitive for something like this. ¬_¬

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Default Sep 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM
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Hi Akuma. As you know i call myself ' a not really a hoarder' just extremely de-motivated and untidy. But i sympathise deeply with hoarders and the emotions and stuff. I'll see if he is in youtube. I don't really get offended about stuff. The line for me is pretty high up. I love it when people make jokes about themkselves that shows a pretty healthy pysche i think. ( as long as as they know they are jokes haha. I remember seeing Bernard Manning ( for our US friends he was a well known rascist,sexist,bigoted fat English comedian- dead now but he could also tell a jokle and could be quite funny) at Butlins once in the 80's and he was being particualarly sexist that night. Loads of jokes about women and womens bits ( my most used smiley ) that i didn't find funny at all but other people ( inc women thought were hilarious). But like i say i dont really get offended. Either i think it's funny or i don't
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Default Sep 10, 2013 at 11:32 AM
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Fair enough. I'm certainly capable of taking a joke, but there's always a line, IMO. I'm not sure I like the attitude of some comedians, though - it's like: "I hate black people, just kidding!" yes, because it being a joke, makes it OK? I used a naff example, but hopefully you see what I'm driving at.

I'm probably more sensitive to this crap than some people, but then I'm also more appreciative of people's feelings, boundaries, and not a fan of people being slimy and snide, then calling it a joke, or mere jest/banter. I make fun of my own OCD many times, as we as other things, usually to someone whom I know will get it, but that doesn't mean I don't appreciate that inconspicuous line that some people seem to just know when not to cross.

Anywho, this thread was a warning to hoarders, just in-case.

In all honesty, I wouldn't recommend that anyone on this site, watch him, because he does kinda stoop pretty low, to get a laugh, although, to be fair, some of his material did crack me up.

I'm not just defensive of me, I'm defensive of other people. If I were a hoarder, I wouldn't want some jackass telling me I am a disgusting, dirty bastard that doesn't really have a problem, but rather I am just lazy and pathetic; how is that funny? As far as I'm concerned, it's just offensive and ignorant.

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Default Sep 10, 2013 at 12:26 PM
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Couldn't find the thing he did about hoarders, Akuma but i've just watched his one night stand HBO show and i thought he was pretty funny tbh. Didn't get all the US references but unfortunately i saw some of what he joked about in me but hey that's ok, i can laugh at myself. Jeez with a face like this i do it every time i look in the mirror. HAHAHAHA!!!!! **** that's me.

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Default Sep 11, 2013 at 02:41 AM
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I can handle jokes about topics that many consider "offensive," as long as I believe it's just a joke. If I thought they were serious, I'd drop them. I watch a lot of comics who tell jokes that might offend certain groups of people, including Jim Norton, Kathy Griffin, Ricky Gervais, Amy Schumer, Chelsea Handler, Daniel Tosh and--a new one for me--Anthony Jeselnik, who is consider the "dark prince" of comedy. I think he crosses a lot of lines, but I'm ok with it, as long as it's just jokes. I think humor helps us open up about topics that can be difficult to discuss.

I read an article, probably the last time I was on the computer (I haven't been here since around the end of last month!!!), from a magazine which I can't name here, for it is the B-word, a feminist zine, about rape jokes. Some of the comics I listed have done rape jokes (like Tosh and Jeselnik, but also Schumer, a female). I am okay with laughing (if I think it's funny), because I know I'm able to differentiate a joke from the actual thing. Still, I do wonder, if enough comics do it, will society look at rape as a lighter crime, rather than the horrific thing it is?

Of course, sometimes I wonder (but remain open to the fact that I don't know and can't tell) if a comic uses the stage to make jokes that aren't really jokes, that they believe what they're saying. You can't always tell. I do think we need to lighten up on some things that trigger groups of people to become offended, but that's a long discussion that I don't have time for at this moment, really. I'm supposed to be looking for a post I put up last month, and update it, but the topic of this thread caught my eye, and I couldn't resist joining the discussion. I'll just say this: When I say, we need to lighten up on hair triggers, I don't mean you shouldn't be offended by some things. It's more that we need to look at the intent of the person speaking; if someone says something racist, but doesn't know it's racist, shouldn't he or she get an explanation, rather than condemnation, as to why it might offend someone?

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