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I would also add that although most people will never foal a mare, I think everyone knows someone with a mental illness.
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Not everyone knows someone at a personal level who has mental illness. I was actually in my 40's before it was more than something out there in the world that REALLY NEEDED my understanding. Life is filled with needs that require understanding in people's lives & spending the time to educate one's self about things in the world that don't touch their life is next to impossible. Even just knowing someone, if they aren't close & require much interfacing with, one does not always have the time to really get a real understanding until it hits really close & personal. Problem is that some people are arrogant with a "know it all" attitude that spew out opinion rather than facts. Those kind of people I don't listen to in the first place
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Yes I agree that everyone knows someone will an illness, mental illness is super common and I'm happy to educate anyone who is open minded and willing to learn. It's not the fact that people don't understand mental illness that annoys me, it's the total disregard and unwillingness to understand that gets on my nerves. I'm more understanding if someone has truly good intentions but just don't know what it's like, that's actually very common. I'll be honest, I once thought everyone experienced mental illness the same way but then I learned that's not true so I know not everyone who is not educated has bad intentions.
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There are lots of topics I know a lot about but never bring up unless someone starts a discussion on that topic. I am never shy about diplomatically expressing an opposing bit of information which can sometimes either lead to discussion or at least plant a seed of a differing way of thinking about it. If it falls on deaf ears.... nothing I can do about that
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I think for some or maybe even many people, it's not active denial; it's poor insight into one's mental health. Perhaps it looks the same one the outside -- the person does not seek or participate in treatment or will state that they don't have a problem -- but lack of insight is not a decision. It's truly not understanding something is wrong. I learned this from reading the book "I'm Not Sick. I Don't Need Help" by Xavier Amador
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I think the point of the OP is getting a bit lost. We're talking about people who feel it necessary to get up in our faces and deny that Depression/ Anxiety actually are valid medical issues, and who also feel the need to somehow deny that it exists at all.
I appreciate your metaphor about foaling horses, eskie. But I doubt many people, having witnessed you assisting with this amazing experience/ near miracle, would turn to you and say something on the order of, "You didn't just do that. Foaling horses does not exist. You shouldn't be proud of yourself; you didn't assist that mare or foal at all.". They'd be much more likely to be in awe of you, and to admire your courage and knowledge. They'd also probably leave the scene as slightly changed people, with new and different viewpoints. The discussion is really about people's possible motives for being mental illness deniers. In my experiences with these folks, I've just peacefully handled the situation; partly out of politics, and partly because I know that they would not be moved, no matter what I had to say. They were, in large part, attempting to diminish me and my genuine health concerns---and that falls under the heading of emotional abuse, in my book. And no matter whether I'm doing well or I'm currently just treading water, I do not welcome or forgive this kind of behaviour. I have had to give it all a lot of thought, as it's come at me from so many different directions. I am wiser than I was, and now do not simply share with casual acquaintances (even if they are very good friends of my husband) what is going on in my personal life. My mistake was to assume that they would be protective and sympathetic people. Now I know better. The attacks that came at me from a family member were the most unforgivable, because they were definitely designed and calculated to do harm. Don't even get me started on that. (She shot her patented poisoned darts at me several times on different occasions, probably trying to goad me into losing it; a favourite cruel game of hers.) I had to endure her tortures without complaint, because she had snowed everyone in the family into believing that she was this benevolent, harmless little dolly of an old lady. But she was quite the opposite, in fact. It amounted to me being in a great deal of emotional anguish for several years, as I could not visit my aging father without also having to see this person. It was a difficult time. I have always been curious about certain forms of mental illness. Perhaps because I was exposed to it from such a young age. I instinctively knew my brother was having some difficulties as a pre-teen and teenager, and I also suspected both of my parents drank to mask some mild and cyclical situational depressions. Friends would discuss personal concerns with me on a regular basis, because they knew I was a good confidant---someone who tried to be sensitive and supportive, and who would keep their secrets. So I was forced to think about these things fairly young, from my early teens, onward. But I do not believe it is EVERYONE'S job to educate themselves about mental illness. I DO believe it is everyone's job to try to be humane and considerate, especially when someone is sharing potentially painful and personal information with them. I fear for the future. People do seem to be becoming less and less civil and kind, in general. As you can tell, I've not had much luck in my dealings with other human beings. I hope I am wrong, of course, and try to stay positive about it all. As I'm forever saying, The conversation has only really just started. Last edited by MuseumGhost; May 16, 2022 at 11:52 AM.. |
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In the throes of deep depression (MDD), I was once told "you don't look depressed, you seem happy." Because I was out and about, and engaged in conversation. It really is very hard for most people, even those with mh issues themselves sometimes, to understand mental illness and the inner experiences of others. Mental illness related, or not. |
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