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Beth,lately,I was thinking of challenging myself and learn an ancient language I know Hebrew is one.Is it difficult to pronounce?

I think that people who are new to speaking Hebrew find it difficult to pronounce, yes. That's been my experience, anyway. I've heard American rabbis who pronounce Hebrew poorly.

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I think that people who are new to speaking Hebrew find it difficult to pronounce, yes. That's been my experience, anyway. I've heard American rabbis who pronounce Hebrew poorly.
I think it depends if one speaks other languages where there is a hard “h” sound. For native English speaker it’s hard to say the hard “h” sound as well as roll the Rs.
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Go easy on yourself! Hebrew is an extremely difficult language to read for those of us whose native language is based upon the Roman alphabet. Just getting into our brains the left to right is a major shift, it truly is. Bear in mind that almost all Israelis begin learning English in grade school, when their brains are young. Did you attend synagogue or temple as a small child (i.e., were you exposed to Hebrew pronunciation at a young age)?

When I was a child Jews were convinced that Yiddish was dead and there was great lament. But it remains very much alive in ultra-Orthodox communities globally and so many people have taken an interest in it and re-learned it. So maybe?
I know. I am aware. I am not that serious about being embarrassed about Hebrew alphabet. Was a bit of inside joke. I took a class in my synagogue mainly because of my own kid making fun of me at services having to read English transcription.

My pronunciation in Hebrew is good. Pronunciation isn’t an issue. My issue was with reading. Those aren’t the same things. I just had hard time with the alphabet. It required practice. I read, write and speak and am proficient in 3 different languages that use three different alphabets. So I assume how hard would that be to learn the 4th! I’ve learned English in my 30s. Guess reading Hebrew was a different story. I don’t give up!

Yiddish is on endangered languages list. Yes there is one. So that’s a reality
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Being proficient in reading ,writing and speaking in three different languages, I was looking forward to learn Hebrew. I gather it won't be easy.I think you become as good as a native if started early on.The ones I am very good at I started in my childhood.
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Torah in Spanish would be so-so connected to Sephardi Jews, roughly.
Interesting. The guy I speak of has an older brother that was good friends with my brother. I wonder if my brother would know if their family was Sephardi. I’ll ask him (if I remember lol).

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Being proficient in reading ,writing and speaking in three different languages, I was looking forward to learn Hebrew. I gather it won't be easy.I think you become as good as a native if started early on.The ones I am very good at I started in my childhood.
True. But I think it also depends on your immersion in language. I’d say my English is pretty decent and I didn’t know any of it until my mid 30s, BUT I am fully immersed in it. I’d never be as good as a native, it’s not possible, but it’s good enough My other two I know since childhood.
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Torah in Spanish would be so-so connected to Sephardi Jews, roughly.
Some Sephardic Jewish people speak Ladino. It’s a language that is a mix between Hebrew and Spanish
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I think it depends if one speaks other languages where there is a hard “h” sound. For native English speaker it’s hard to say the hard “h” sound as well as roll the Rs.

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I know. I am aware. I am not that serious about being embarrassed about Hebrew alphabet. Was a bit of inside joke. I took a class in my synagogue mainly because of my own kid making fun of me at services having to read English transcription.

My pronunciation in Hebrew is good. Pronunciation isn’t an issue. My issue was with reading. Those aren’t the same things. I just had hard time with the alphabet. It required practice. I read, write and speak and am proficient in 3 different languages that use three different alphabets. So I assume how hard would that be to learn the 4th! I’ve learned English in my 30s. Guess reading Hebrew was a different story. I don’t give up!

Yiddish is on endangered languages list. Yes there is one. So that’s a reality

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Fabulous, divine! What an excellent ability for language you have! Gosh, just learning English in your 30's...incredible. Too many native English speakers don't know English

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Fabulous, divine! What an excellent ability for language you have! Gosh, just learning English in your 30's...incredible. Too many native English speakers don't know English
I think the only way to learn it is when you have to. I had to and in a hurry! Thank you but I don’t think I have any special ability, to be honest. It’s like sink or swim. I chose to swim lol
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I think Hebrew and Arabic are hard to read cos they use diacritics for their vowels or sometimes just leave the vowels out of the writing altogether.
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I know German very well since I am German.My son is doing good with German since we have a trip to Germany scheduled next year to see family members there.A few of my family members over there know German only.I am glad my son is learning German.
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I think Hebrew and Arabic are hard to read cos they use diacritics for their vowels or sometimes just leave the vowels out of the writing altogether.
I know! For me letters look all the same but of course they aren’t the same!
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Some Sephardic Jewish people speak Ladino. It’s a language that is a mix between Hebrew and Spanish
Oh cool I have never heard of Ladino. Ty

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I know German very well since I am German.My son is doing good with German since we have a trip to Germany scheduled next year to see family members there.A few of my family members over there know German only.I am glad my son is learning German.
I tried to learn German using Duolingo. I kinda gave up on it cos the word order is so different from English that I just ended up doing it all wrong. But I may try again.
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I tried to learn German using Duolingo. I kinda gave up on it cos the word order is so different from English that I just ended up doing it all wrong. But I may try again.
Oh yeah the word order makes it fun! Its like, how many more words can you add to this sentence before it goes completely off the track!
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Oh yeah the word order makes it fun! Its like, how many more words can you add to this sentence before it goes completely off the track!
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