[mum2four]

I'm sitting her on my bed feeling palpitaion in my chest is a really frustrating thing to ignore.....it just thumps and it feels like butterflies are fluttering inside my chest it make my whole body feel fatiuged it makes me want to take to sedative just make it go it away.......I'm not scared of it I know I'm not having any heart issues its just rediculus I dont know why I get it there not much going on inside my head I feel distracted unable to focus but i cant really hear any thoughts that might be causing it......... it just feels like some one is tapping on my chest I wish I make them stop but of course it not a person I wish I could reach in side my chest and squeeze my heart to make it go back to normal.........it just does not make sence ........I know lots of people get palp but they normally talk about a fear of a heart problem ect I dont have that issues so why cant I make it stop I feel like I need to turn the music up really loud till its pulsating threw my body and I cant figure out whats causeing it...................I want to scream at what eva decided to make this happen to me I want to get away from the feeling but of course thats not possable cause my heart is keeping me alive..............................I would slap my self over what eva stupid thoughts started the palps but thats not posable..................make it leave me alone I just want to be normal symptom free a ok healthy I want to have fun I want to be relaxed i want to just be the me I know is in side me.......................if it was not for the pals I would not think I was anxious it makes no sence....arrgggggggggggggggg

If it's any consolation, I went through a big spell of panic attacks and they'd just come out of nowhere. Just at random weird times for no apparent reason. Didn't make any sense to me either.
Big , they're a drag. Sending soothing thoughts your way...

[mum2four]

Originally Posted by Innerzone

If it's any consolation, I went through a big spell of panic attacks and they'd just come out of nowhere. Just at random weird times for no apparent reason. Didn't make any sense to me either.
Big , they're a drag. Sending soothing thoughts your way...

but I've had a good day I dont feel like I'm going to panic I have not been panicing or stressing out I have not even really been anxious today its so frustrating.....................

[mum2four]

some time I feel like it useless trying to get over anxiety speically when symptoms like this just pop in for a visit with no other reason but to frustrate me...............

[mum2four]

so far its about a hour since I first notice the palps how long do outh people often get them for.....

[mum2four]

when palp go for this long I start to wonder if I'm imaginating the whole thing which is counter productive to ignoreing them so thay'll go away.......

[maestrodimente]

Have you tried any form of CBT to help ease your palpitations? One that works for me is that which I learned recently from a friend who had travelled over from USA to Scotland to train me! I'd had a panic attack during a talk I was giving ( absoultely no idea where it came from!), and she soothed me with this;

Imagine your breath entering and filling your whole tummy. Breathe in deeply and allow the breath to fill your whole stomach, and gently exhale. I repeat 5 times and I do find it works for me. I hope it does for you too!

The whole "filling your stomach" bit might seem a bit odd, but it seems better than imagining the air filling just your chest or lungs.

[perpetuallysad]

Maybe your medication is causing them?

I've just started a new med (Invega) and I have rapid heartbeats that I can feel all the time when I'm really still; lying down, whatever. Maybe that's it?

[mum2four]

Originally Posted by perpetuallysad

Maybe your medication is causing them?

I've just started a new med (Invega) and I have rapid heartbeats that I can feel all the time when I'm really still; lying down, whatever. Maybe that's it?

what eva the reason its just so frustrating some time when there seems to be no reason for them I had a heart murmer as a baby/child some time I just think what if its not anxiety......I have not had palp much in last year but I've have them several times in the last week or so.......I read that low iron can cause it cause the blood cant suplly the body with oxygen properly unless it works harder and I was meant to go have a blood test for iron level last week but I was so busy and it was so hot that I did not want to go have it done and feel horrable cause I have to not eat for 12 and I dont so well on a nice day when I have to not eat for a blood test.....I could hope that it is my iron level thats easier to fix......

[Pup]

i get palpation but i have health issues going on that are the cause of that.

but alot of things can cause them#
they are annoyig very annoying#
hope it passes

[Rhapsody]

Yes they are.... and I hate when they come about as I am laying down to sleep for the night.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

[lynn P.]

I get them occasionally and mine aren't related to anxiety. Have you had yours checked out by a doctor. I had to wear a 24hr heart monitor at home, to see if they were the dangerous kind- they weren't. Medications can cause them, excess caffiene and skipping meals. Hope you feel better.

[schitzo-girl626]

Originally Posted by lynn P.

I get them occasionally and mine aren't related to anxiety. Have you had yours checked out by a doctor. I had to wear a 24hr heart monitor at home, to see if they were the dangerous kind- they weren't. Medications can cause them, excess caffiene and skipping meals. Hope you feel better.

i get them too. i never did till i was 40. i get mad and look out, candidate for heart attack later. i was told by a cardiac doc to have no stimulants, as in nicotine, caffine, alcohol,or any stimulant meds. after i stopped all of that, i didnt have them. i am back on nicotine some, and i mix coffee 1/2 decaf to 1/2 caffine. if i smoke alot or drink only caffine coffee i get them. so, i think its from all the years of using these stimulants that has caused it. so try to avoid all of them and see if it helps.

[mum2four]

Originally Posted by schitzo-girl626

i get them too. i never did till i was 40. i get mad and look out, candidate for heart attack later. i was told by a cardiac doc to have no stimulants, as in nicotine, caffine, alcohol,or any stimulant meds. after i stopped all of that, i didnt have them. i am back on nicotine some, and i mix coffee 1/2 decaf to 1/2 caffine. if i smoke alot or drink only caffine coffee i get them. so, i think its from all the years of using these stimulants that has caused it. so try to avoid all of them and see if it helps.

I dont drink caffine or smoke or even do drugs or drink alcohole I dont even touch gurana products the new caffine.....If dare to have a coffee one every fue month I know the next day I will regret it but some time I just want to feel normal for a while.

[mum2four]

Originally Posted by lynn P.

I get them occasionally and mine aren't related to anxiety. Have you had yours checked out by a doctor. I had to wear a 24hr heart monitor at home, to see if they were the dangerous kind- they weren't. Medications can cause them, excess caffiene and skipping meals. Hope you feel better.

No Dr has done any test on me they automaticlyt say all my symptoms are anxiety related.

[Bill3]

You've not recently had, for example, an EKG?

I used to have frequent, disruptive palpitations. They turned out to be caused by a physical condition that was fixable. I got things fixed and I don't have those palpitations anymore.

My vote, fwiw, would be for a cardiologist to check you out.

[mum2four]

I've never had EKG.....I was born with a heart murmer and grew out of it Dr's say I dont need any tests it anxiety....The first time I had palp I was pregnant with first baby at 17y old. Then not much but with my second baby it was worse then it continued after having her and the Dr said if it keeps happening I send for a test but it did not happen for a while by the time it started again I was not seeing that Dr I think she left the clinic. every other Dr had passed it off as anxiety and never done test to be sure I want to be sure speically when there seems to be no fear at the times it happening...I have a new Dr cause I got sick of being told automaticly that every symptom was depression and anxiety. But I scared to ask for a test just be sure I dont want to seem like a hypercondracts.

[Bill3]

It sounds like you are now thinking about perhaps having an EKG with your new doctor. If it turned out that everything was fine physically, though, are you saying that you might feel as if you had wasted the doctor's time?

[Rhapsody]

Originally Posted by mum2four

No Dr has done any test on me they automaticlyt say all my symptoms are anxiety related.

While that may be the matter in this situation I still would like to remind you that a study was done stating that a large amount of women are being told they have anxiety when it is in all actuality a heart condition that just takes a little more time and specific testing to locate the source of.

Just a little FYI for you -

[mum2four]

Originally Posted by Rhapsody

While that may be the matter in this situation I still would like to remind you that a study was done stating that a large amount of women are being told they have anxiety when it is in all actuality a heart condition that just takes a little more time and specific testing to locate the source of.

Just a little FYI for you -

Yer I'll feel like it was waste of valuable Dr's time a resorces....but I it would also make me feel like Dr's care about....while I know anxiety is not just attenstion seeking it some time feels like that way to me. Proberly cause I been callled an attenstion seeker all my life till I finally got the real answer. While I'm scared of having a more serious problem I would rather know and deal with it just for the chance to make some or all my symptom go away. I'm scared that other problems might exist and that Dr's have just automaticly saying anxiety and depression.....Even my mum has plenty of test (proberly too many) to RULE OUT all sorts of illness and while I think some time that she is a attenstion seeker cause she would see a dr every every fue day when I was growing up. At least she has the knowlage that nothing serious is going on or if it was serious thay took steps to fix it. Nothing satisfiys my mum she always has something wrong and while I fully understand how she feels and not trying to beltille her symtoms she is for eva making me feel like or telling me that I'm the attenstion seeker. Like I cant rain on her parade her attention like it all about her she called me the hypercondract all my life all because I love reading medical books. Yet she reads about the danger and side effect of mixing certain med and ignore the fact that her Dr's has given her meds that counteract each other. When I mentioned this to her after reading her med's instruction after she said she felt thay were not working for her, she changed the subject and started picking on my life. I rarly go the Dr's have so many things I would love to tell a Dr but I so scared of being called a hypercondract or attentsion seeker. I'm slowly becomeing less scared to talk about more issues but the more I talk about the more I fell certain my Dr will see me as hypercondract. I dont want invassive proceedure but it would be nice to have my symptoms acknolaged JUST ONCE as not part of my anxiety or depression.....Just so I know my Dr care about my health. My mum has had many minor invasive proceedures and a fue opt which were all important dont get me wrong but add to my fear that there might be something more going on with me as well. As much as I'd hate to more dx's or lables or condition's I'm for eva hearing people talk about the way the Dr's ruled out the syptoms then said it was anxiety ect. I'm sure I have anxiety ect but I'm still human and not incapable of getting other issues, I prety much never seek Dr's help too I'm at my bracking point with a symptom. Yet I supose I feel like because I have anxiety the Dr is of the thinking that I'm exagerating or something. there just this feeling of what if that I feel is normal and not my anxiety make scared of the what if's. it hard to explain.

[Michah]

Just my 2 cents......please get your thyroid hormones and sex hormones checked.......my experience to do with long term and consistent heart palpitations is to do with this.......yes, can be caused by anxiety, but please get a physical just to be sure. I sometimes take 2.5mg of diazepam just to slow it down, even in the absence of anxiety. Please talk to your doctor if it is worrying you.

Take good care.......

In stillness,

Michah

[Bill3]

I have anxiety the Dr is of the thinking that I'm exagerating or something.

The doctor will listen to what you say and will also rely on actual measurements of activity in your body. You can find out the truth about what is going on and then you can decide what if anything to do next.

[mum2four]

I have palpitation again this time from just doing sit up type action several times. I was ajusting pillows and once I finally layed down I could feel heart thumping in my chest. It made me think of the tilt table test I saw on the programe "house", and how my heart would react if I given that the tilt table test. I dont sleep without several pillows never have, as a kids the room would spin real bad when was laying flat so i use to sleep i half sittig postion most night knights, it gets better them worse every night is different to the last but I rarly sleep with only 1 pillow due to the dizzy feelings. Some nights I have to roll up a towel and put it under neck to make my self feel better. Most nights I have to fall asleep on my side or the I feel yuck in general, or worse really dizzy and extreamly bad a migrane and I cant stand movement or light ect.

Back to the palpitation and doing a sit up motion I cant do sit up due to getting dizzy and getting palipation. I cant see this being anxiety related but it might be. I would love to see the results of a tilt table test I'm really curious now lol. I cant even swing on a swing for a fue tiny swings with out becomeing extreamly dizzy.

[Bill3]

What is the tilt table test?

[mum2four]

A tilt table test is a medical procedure often used to diagnose dysautonomia or syncope. Patients with symptoms of dizziness or lightheadedness, with or without a loss of consciousness (fainting), suspected to be associated with a drop in blood pressure or positional tachycardia are good candidates for this test.

Preparations

Before actually taking the test, the patient may be instructed to fast for a period before the test will take place, and to stop taking any medications. On the day of the tilt table test, a patient may be monitored using an electrocardiogram (ECG) while lying down. Some facilities insert an intravenous line in case the patient needs to be given medication quickly; however, this may influence the results of the test and may only be indicated in particular circumstances. More recently, most investigators monitor cerebral perfusion using mean flow velocity recording with transcranial doppler ultrasound in supine horizontal position, during and after head-up tilt. An 18 MHz ultrasound transducer is placed on the temporal bone above the cheekbone, using a head gear to hold the probe in place.[


Procedure

A tilt table test can be done in different ways and be modified for individual circumstances. In some cases, the patient will be strapped to a tilt table lying flat and then tilted or suspended completely or almost completely upright (as if standing). Most of the time, a patient is suspended at an angle of sixty to eighty degrees. Sometimes, the patient will be given a drug, such as Glyceryl trinitrate or isoproterenol, to create further susceptibility to the test. In all cases, the patient is instructed not to move. Symptoms, blood pressure, pulse, electrocardiogram, and sometimes blood oxygen saturation are recorded. The test ends when the patient faints or has other significant symptoms, at which time he or she is given medical attention, or after a set period of time (usually from 20 to 45 minutes, depending on the facility or individualized protocol).
[edit] Diagnostic symptoms

A tilt table test is considered positive if the patient experiences symptoms associated with a drop in blood pressure or cardiac arrhythmia. A normal person's blood pressure will not drop dramatically while standing, because the body will compensate for this posture with a slight increase in heart rate and constriction of the blood vessels in the legs. If this process does not function normally in the patient, the test could provoke signs and symptoms ranging from minor lightheadedness to a very severe cardiac episode, depending on the person.
A common side effect during tilt table testing is a feeling of heaviness and warmth in the lower extremities. This is due to blood pooling in the legs and, to onlookers, the patient's lower extremities may appear blotchy, pink, or red.
Dizziness or lightheadedness are also likely to occur in susceptible patients. Tilt table testing could provoke fainting or syncope; in fact, this is the purpose of the test. It may not be appropriate, or indeed even possible, to stop the test before this occurs, as the drop in blood pressure or pulse rate associated with fainting can come on in seconds. This is why the patient's blood pressure and ECG should be continuously monitored during the test.
In extreme cases, tilt table testing could provoke seizures, or even cause the heart to stop. The heart resumes beating normally upon being returned to a flat or head-down position.
If at any time in tilt table testing a patient loses consciousness, he or she will be returned to a supine or head down position and will be given immediate medical attention, which could include being given fluids or perhaps atropine or adrenaline.

Applications

These findings suggest a positive induced cardiovascular training effect in the fighter pilots group. Repetitive exposure to higher G forces results in an increased resting mean arterial pressure and an elevated heart rate response to tilt table tests, which may provide benefits to operational fighter pilots.[1]
Head-up tilt table testing can be used to evaluate autonomic dysfunction and is frequently helpful for the work-up of fibromyalgia (FM) complaints, including fatigue, dizziness, and palpitations. One of the most common events experienced by FM patients during tilt table testing is postural orthostatic tachycardia syndrome, (POTS) which is defined as a heart rate increase of more than 30 beats per minute after more than 3 minutes of standing upright. [2]
In a study of adolescents, Chronic fatigue syndrome (CFS) subjects were more susceptible to orthostatic intolerance (OI) than controls, the cardiovascular response predominantly manifest as POTS without hypotension, a response unique to CFS suggesting further investigation is warranted with respect to the pathophysiologic mechanisms involved.[3]
It has recently shown that CFS is associated with a short corrected electrocardiographic QT interval (QTc). A relatively short QTc and positive HIS distinguish CFS patients from FM patients. These data may support the contention that FM and CFS are separate disorders.[4]
The head up tilt table test reveals a particular dysautonomia in CFS patients that differs from other conditions and is useful in supporting the diagnosis of CFS. Furthermore these studies indicate that the test is an objective means of monitoring the course and management of CFS[5].[6]