[RedBarchetta]

After I THOUGHT this was done with too.

After basically telling everyone I have had it with all these drugs because either they don't help, or cause side effect, so just forget it, leave things alone because I really am WAY more satisfied with that than I am with even what has helped due to the issues that stuff causes in other areas.
Now I feel like after just a very short period of time I am getting hassled over it again! - AND this time with something that could be even MORE annoying to me even if it works out!
Problem there - without even knowing if it's going to do anything I don't like or not is basically laws - to use it's close monitoring - I said from day one I won't have any of that - that's why I don't have medications for some medical issues either. I know that's just the way the law is written - but I don't care, I still maintain the stance if it's urine - if you can't trust me to give you the real thing without having to have anyone witness it - than I can't trust you to play with anything. And if it's blood, a few times a year fine - every month and you better teach me to draw it myself and accept it that way.
Now I MIGHT make some exception if they will compromise a little - like I have ONE doctor I wouldn't mind, but I have been seeing her for about 15 years, if she wanted to, I MIGHT IF she personally did the monitoring, send one of her nurses, whom I have little to do with, therefor do not know well at all, FORGET IT! - Also if instead of there office, it was done at a lab of my choosing, and again I pick who actually dose it - in that case I would go to the hospital I normally use, and again grab a nurse that I have known for like 15-20 years.
But if I do not know the person doing the monitoring for YEARS it's absolutely NOT going to happen under any circumstances, even a court order will be ignored unless I am picking where and by whom. period. Or at the very least they will just be handed something I grabbed in private at home and they will be told take it or nothing, because that's all you are getting - no discussion, just if I don't know you for years, no way are you doing that.
And with the blood - well that comes down to the amount of time it takes, waiting is the longest part, and I am unwilling to loose that much time every month - however it only take what 5 mins to draw it once you know how, and about 10-15 mins. to drive it up to the hospital lab. As opposed to about a 45 min wait on average to let them do it.....That's on top of the time it takes to actually do it.

[Travelinglady]

I guess these folks have been burned by people who find ways of giving urine samples and blood from others to cover up their drug issues. As usual, we have to suffer from dishonesty by other people. But the powers-that-be do get a bit ridiculous, don't they?!

[RedBarchetta]

Well, in a nut shell, it didn't happen, and won't for quite a few years.....
I turn down pain medication too...
Bottom line - unless I have known you for a good while (well, it's not really the amount of time for say, as it is how well, but that takes years no matter how you look at it) I WILL hold the stans "if you can't trust me to give you a real sample without looking over my shoulder about it - then I CAN NOT trust you to play with anything." that's all there is too it.
Besides "cheating" on such a thing is plain stupid - you are asking for an accident that way - sure no one is going to give you an opium based drug if you you are using a coca based one...But that's not gor any reason other than the combination of the two is deadly. And if that person is stupid enough to not realize that - and "cheats" like that - well, all I can say is, that's his stupidity, and anything that happens is his own damn fault then!

[ECHOES]

Sounds like you know exactly what you want.

[RedBarchetta]

Originally Posted by ECHOES

Sounds like you know exactly what you want.

Actually, more like exactly what I don't want....

Now with some things I would rather not do - you MIGHT get away with it, if I have know you for some time - but causing problems with something there was no problem with before - well, no...
And basically, don't expect me to trade one problem for another - there is no one thing (as far as body function goes) that is any more or less important than anything else.