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Old May 17, 2015, 02:03 PM
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so there are six of us in my immediate family of brothers and sisters. they are all made by mom and dad.

So here is the situation. when my mom was in the hospital after having my older brother. she said that he was born with a mecronium spill and the dr said he could die from it.

so anyway she said my brother stood up strong with long legs like my oldest.
brother..

anyway then they took the baby and put him in the maternity nursery.

soon after my dad was told that one of the babies died. no one thought anything of it.

then later when my mom was given her baby (my brother) another woman in the hospital told the doctors that my mom's baby was actually hers!.

Now, it is possible that the other mother was devastated that her baby died and wanted my moms.

but there are several reasons mom wonders about this still to this day.

1) baby cried more then any others when she held him
2) she was told by the dr. that her baby would probably die
3) both my mom and dad have b blood, and my brother ended up with type O. this is a genetic possibility but chances are very rare only a 6. something percent chance, compared to 95 percent chance of B and all of the rest of us are B+ with exception of sister and oldest brother who are b- (mom is b-)

I know the chances of this are very low.

and don't get me wrong i care for my brother. we was actually my favorite growing up.

BUT. i am very curious.

the reason? well 3 out of 6 of us have a mental illness including brother we are unsure is ours.

well, i was
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by second oldest brother of 6, this brother had mind control books, and also had books on making recreational drugs and other drug related books as well as books on growing and picking magic mushrooms.

when we went on a family trip to oregon, that is when the brother in question first went "crazy". he told family and such about the
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but he was hallucinating colors and wearing a devil mask he made, and dr. at the hospital told us he seemed to be on an oregon drug. but he would have had to be slipped it. brother was very shy and only 16 at the time and swears she took nothing accept a beer from our cousin.

So i wonder about this, because i have always been told that our mental illness is genetic. but what if we were all slipped drugs so the brother that
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could get away with saying we are all crazy.

we (all three of us) were the only one's living at home at the time.

And I (the victim) didn't have my first episode until after i broke away from brother and told mom what had happened.

Maybe i am just paranoid. but if we could prove that the brother in question is not related then i would know i am on to something.

let me know what your thoughts on this are .. thank you

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Old May 17, 2015, 02:18 PM
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One more thing that i can think of is that my brother is only 5 years older then (i am the youngest) and my whole family smoke cigarettes (except for the one that molested me but anyways) we all smoke cigarette and our ages range from me 31 to oldest brother who is 49. NONE of us have much of a breathing problem. one of my brothers 38 has always had asthma. but this brother in question has really bad breathing problems from smoking cigs. he has copd and wears a breathing tank at all time. also when he was a teenager he asked my mom if she was really his mom (she had never told him about this or even thought about it again until recently)
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Old May 18, 2015, 04:58 AM
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I am not sure that I completely understand and this may not be as helpful as you need it to be; however, as far as blood typing goes I can help. O is a very common blood type and determined by several factors, alleles, that determine blood type by two primary alleles, a dominant one and recessive (hidden) one.

So for a "B-" Blood Type mother to have an O Blood Type child, she would have to be "BO - B dominant, O dominant " or "Bo- B dominant, o recessive" Type. The father could either be in the case of an Type O child the father would have to be:

-Type A: (AO) or (Ao) or
-Type B: (BO) or (Bo) or
-Type O: (OO) or (Oo),

then a Type O is probable. With 2 parents Type B, whether BO or Bo for either of them, there is a 25% chance the child will be Type O, not the rate you quoted earlier.

The only way to know for sure is to go for testing because there is no way to know those recessive alleles without testing.

I am sorry I cannot narrow it down for you further in your quest for answers. I wish you well in finding what you seek and peace for you and your family.
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Old May 21, 2015, 03:10 AM
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A meconium spill is dangerous because a baby might get it in their airway and aspirate it but obviously your brother did not aspirate it. It is a common problem though and doctors/nurses suction out the baby's mouth immediately when there's a spill to be sure they do not breathe it in. I think the doctor was speaking in terms of, "if he aspirates it he could die. . ." not that he could die just because there was a spill.

I don't know where the story of the other woman claiming your brother was her child came from, that would not be something told out straightforward to your mother by anyone in authority and it could be mixed up (someone teasing because your brother was so cute or a passing comment only partly heard) or just a story someone made up, etc. but with footprints and all the other registering they do of babies (and I was born in 1950 and have my medical records with prints :-) I think it is very rare that babies get permanently mixed up.
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Old May 21, 2015, 03:16 AM
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he was hallucinating colors and wearing a devil mask he made, and dr. at the hospital told us he seemed to be on an oregon drug.
What's an 'oregon drug'? Google didn't deliver.
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Old May 24, 2015, 11:11 AM
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What's an 'oregon drug'? Google didn't deliver.
Oregon State sorry. i forget the exact name, but it was an experimental psychedelic that was circling around Oregon in those days. it was during the early 90's
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Old May 24, 2015, 12:58 PM
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Probably psilocybin mushrooms, they grow well and in abundance in northern Oregon and were being rediscovered around then.
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so there are six of us in my immediate family of brothers and sisters. they are all made by mom and dad.

So here is the situation. when my mom was in the hospital after having my older brother. she said that he was born with a mecronium spill and the dr said he could die from it.

so anyway she said my brother stood up strong with long legs like my oldest.
brother..

anyway then they took the baby and put him in the maternity nursery.

soon after my dad was told that one of the babies died. no one thought anything of it.

then later when my mom was given her baby (my brother) another woman in the hospital told the doctors that my mom's baby was actually hers!.

Now, it is possible that the other mother was devastated that her baby died and wanted my moms.

but there are several reasons mom wonders about this still to this day.

1) baby cried more then any others when she held him
2) she was told by the dr. that her baby would probably die
3) both my mom and dad have b blood, and my brother ended up with type O. this is a genetic possibility but chances are very rare only a 6. something percent chance, compared to 95 percent chance of B and all of the rest of us are B+ with exception of sister and oldest brother who are b- (mom is b-)

I know the chances of this are very low.

and don't get me wrong i care for my brother. we was actually my favorite growing up.

BUT. i am very curious.

the reason? well 3 out of 6 of us have a mental illness including brother we are unsure is ours.

well, i was
Possible trigger:
by second oldest brother of 6, this brother had mind control books, and also had books on making recreational drugs and other drug related books as well as books on growing and picking magic mushrooms.

when we went on a family trip to oregon, that is when the brother in question first went "crazy". he told family and such about the
Possible trigger:
but he was hallucinating colors and wearing a devil mask he made, and dr. at the hospital told us he seemed to be on an oregon drug. but he would have had to be slipped it. brother was very shy and only 16 at the time and swears she took nothing accept a beer from our cousin.

So i wonder about this, because i have always been told that our mental illness is genetic. but what if we were all slipped drugs so the brother that
Possible trigger:
could get away with saying we are all crazy.

we (all three of us) were the only one's living at home at the time.

And I (the victim) didn't have my first episode until after i broke away from brother and told mom what had happened.

Maybe i am just paranoid. but if we could prove that the brother in question is not related then i would know i am on to something.

let me know what your thoughts on this are .. thank you
For starters, mechonium in utero happens all the time, its definitely not a death sentence. Like someone else kind of explained O is always recessive, while A and B or dominant so two B parents have a 25% chance of having an O type blood child. It would be helpful if you knew who was neg or pos. As far as the breathing problems go,most people develop COPD to some degree or another w 20 pack years ( 1 PPD for 20 yrs). I'm sorry you went through all that, but you really can't be sure without either a DNA test or you could narrow down the pronability w HLA typing. Good luck.
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Old May 26, 2015, 02:37 PM
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Yes, it is my mom who is primarily concerned. i think she has some guilt surrounding the situation. and i will always love him as a brother. but to me it would just be nice to know if our mental illness' are really genetic or if they might actually be environmental in some way?

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For starters, mechonium in utero happens all the time, its definitely not a death sentence. Like someone else kind of explained O is always recessive, while A and B or dominant so two B parents have a 25% chance of having an O type blood child. It would be helpful if you knew who was neg or pos. As far as the breathing problems go,most people develop COPD to some degree or another w 20 pack years ( 1 PPD for 20 yrs). I'm sorry you went through all that, but you really can't be sure without either a DNA test or you could narrow down the pronability w HLA typing. Good luck.
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Old May 27, 2015, 01:31 AM
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For starters, mechonium in utero happens all the time, its definitely not a death sentence. Like someone else kind of explained O is always recessive, while A and B or dominant so two B parents have a 25% chance of having an O type blood child. It would be helpful if you knew who was neg or pos. As far as the breathing problems go,most people develop COPD to some degree or another w 20 pack years ( 1 PPD for 20 yrs). I'm sorry you went through all that, but you really can't be sure without either a DNA test or you could narrow down the pronability w HLA typing. Good luck.
What is "w 20 years"?
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