Irritated about my obesity

I went to the doctors to get a care plan for the dietation I'm just thinking if she just goes on about carbs being bad I'm gonna be so irritated because I just need meal plans my mum doesn't like cooking. Also carbs are the cheapest thing on the market people seem to think that we have a lot of money it's just annoying. I just wish I never took olanzipine then the obesity would have never happened I can't help but wish I asked the potential side effects, I just want to heard I hope the dietation actually gives me meal plans to lower my fatty liver syndrome.

@black-roses I hear you. Not feeling good about my appearance has caused me anxiety.

I like tofu as a good source of protein and it is very reasonable. My experience was I had to cut back on sugar and starches and that helped me.

Hope the dietitian helps you.
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I gained a ton of weight on olanzapine, but for me it was a conscious tradeoff at that time as I needed to be functioning and earning money and all other options hadn't worked. Several years later I found a way to be stable without olanzapine. I still use it occasionally as a PRN but not daily.

If you are still on olanzapine, find out if Lybalvi is available in Australia and if it is, ask to be switched. Lybalvi is olanzapine plus another ingredient that in clinical studies ameliorated some of the weight gain. People still gaind weight but less than on olanzapine alone.

I also developed non-alcoholic fatty liver disease on olanzapine and my liver enzymes were elevated. Now they are normal again. I lost some weight but also, and probably more importantly, I exercise.

Exercise alone, without weight loss, tends to normalize liver enzymes. Also, recent research demonstrated that people can lose up to 30% of liver fat without losing a gram of weight and a centimeter off the waist circumference.

In other words, you need to exercise and that will also boost your mood.

We have a thread in a subforum here called Exercise and Weight Loss. Everyone is in it for exercise and some but not all, for weight loss.

I invite you to join the thread and post about your challenges, misgivings, and hesitations. I am sure that soon you will be posting about your accomplishments.

I cannot tell you how many people have recently asked me if I have lost weight. I have not lost any weight. I must have become more muscular and nimble and my body looks and moves better than before, hence these compliments. I have not lost a gram since I intensified my exercise routine.

You can look and feel better, too, if you start regularly moving your body and looking for forms of movement that you enjoy.

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What you are asking from the dietitian is impossible to deliver. Dietitians who create meal plans are typically privately paid and not particularly concerned with limited finances of their clients. The clients of such dietitians typically can afford both the meals and the dietetics services. If you are on such a limited budget, the best the dietitian can do is to teach you general principles of nutrition, guide you towards inexpensive sources of protein and fiber, analyze what you report you are eating, and offer tweaks. But you still need to do the work. Plus, so what that your mum doesn't cook? You are a big girl and can learn to cook by yourself. My late mum never cooked and that actually prompted me to teach myself cooking at an early age. And that was before the advent of the Internet. Now, with free step-by-step cooking videos on YouTube, sky"s the limit to how far you can go teaching yourself how to prepare healthy and tasty food.

Do you eat beans? They are one of the cheapest sources of protein and at the same time a great source of soluble fiber. Beans and lentils and peas are your friends whether you are rich or poor.

I can teach you how to make great split pea soup.

Are the kind of foods the dietitian is recommending expensive ones? Can you directly feedback the cost concern?

It can be more expensive to eat healthily but it doesn’t have to be, meat and fish are expensive it’s true, but it’s possible to bulk them out with veg and good old lentils.

One thing I’d recommend is looking up one pot recipes, things like casseroles and soups, make them up in bulk this economises your ingredient costs, cooking energy and your time. Then you can freeze up portions so you’ve got ready made meals waiting to be defrosted.

Lots of healthy recipe sites have got videos too so good if you’re a beginner.

yes, lentils, of course, the best of the best and cheap!

Yes, the carbs are one thing but if you can cut back on sugar and fatty foods and drinks (animal fat, it's in lots of things) in combination with exercise (just need to walk, not hang out at the gym half the day) then that's just as good. Keep some carbs, nothing wrong with that, but diminish the other stuff or try a med that won't increase your appetite. I do that black-roses, and I'm slim now. It's a discipline.

Your weight isn’t your mother’s responsibility. It’s yours. Reduce sugar and drink only water and start moving. When you get up make your bed and stay out of bed for the rest of the day. Make a game out of picking things off the floor and dusting. Take a walk. These are things you can do everyday.

Oh yes if you do drink sodas even if they state diet (those ones are still full of unhealthy additives) then if you cut them out you’ll likely see a big difference. My son just did this, he’s lost quite a bit of weight and feeling better on it and actually saved money because those aren’t cheap.

@black-roses how is the relationship with the new dietitian going?

It's okay she just told me to buy low fat food but I've been having problems with chocolate cravings so I gained a kilo. Also my period is late so maybe it's bloating for my period to come soon who knows. I know I'm not pregnant just know it's annoying all of this. I just feel very irritated. I guess it's my fault I weigh this much.

Also sorry for late reply I'm not always on here.

I try to not bother people with my **** that much. I come here only when I really can't cope.

No, it is not your fault that you weigh that much. It it the fault of olanzapine. Unfortunately, you have to deal with the sequelae, but it is most certainly not your fault.

One kilo via bloating due to period is a probable explanation. Wait until after the period is over and take several measurements of your weight first thing in the morning to see where you land.

I am not so sure that buying low fat food is necessarily sound advice since fat improves satiety and blunts glucose spikes from carbs, but I do not want to contradict your clinician. But clearly, you need SOME fat. If you are interested in examining resources about the glucose response to foods and about proper order in which to consume foods (with everything allowed in moderation, chocolate included), both Unaluna and I can provide you with videos and reading material.

And thanks for explaining that you are not here often and just come when you can't really cope.

To reiterate, your weight is not your fault.

My excessively long story is that in the pandemic I lost 50 lbs fasting. However, I then saw my body was considering me starving and acting accordingly. So I stopped but gained it all back (via anti diet).

Anti diet only got me to a place where none of my clothing fit, I had a ton of body aches, and I was miserable.

So I am starting alternate day fasting again. This time I will only do it until I have lost 20 lbs and then stop.