Tracking Your Kids?

perpetuallysad · Mar 25, 2010 at 10:21 AM

Tishie I didn't mean you were paranoid, I said that I'm paranoid. My point being I try not to put my fears onto my son. And I don't think you're a bad parent either. I was sharing my opinion about the whole thing.

Mar 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM

I am talking about any child in my care under the age of 18 ....

My children are aged....

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21

As to being worried in case of infection etc well you can get an infection by having a tattoo, by going to the dentist by having a contraceptive implant I could go on.

lynn P. · Mar 25, 2010 at 11:00 AM

Yes I know I'm off topic but I agree, you can also get infection from piercings. It's fine if Tishie supports micro chipping - that's her opinion.

I'm not trying to flame or cause panic, but one case that really affected me - was the case in the U.K. when the teenage boys walked out of the mall with their arm around the young boy - that was very scary. Or the Pauley Clause (? not sure of the spelling) case - who was abducted from her home and put in the trunk. The abducter even got stuck in the mud and the police helped him get out - while she was tied in the trunk still alive. It's cases like this that scares parents.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:02 AM

Shivers (dont they just)

You mean Jamie Bulger and his parents are now divorced as the strain was too much for them. Also the 'boys' who did this are walking free well one of them are as the other one was recently arrested for a serious crime (which the goverment wont say what it is) so will be going back to prison ! Rehabilitation at its best hey....

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by lynn P.

It's cases like this that scares parents.

Okay, I know that this kind of stuff scares parents. But lo-jacking your kids isn't going to help in these situations.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:23 AM

Whats lo-jacking ?

If Jamie Bulger had been chipped he would be alive today.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tishie

Whats lo-jacking ?

LoJack is the company that developed the anti-hijacking vehicle tracking system. "Lo-jack" was coined to be the antithesis of "hijack".

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Originally Posted by Tishie

If Jamie Bulger had been chipped he would be alive today.

That's speculative, and the perpetrators were children.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:32 AM

With respect it would of helped, Jamie was taken from outside a shop in a shopping mall by two young lads, they had him for a couple of hours while the police was looking for him.

If he had been chipped they would of been able to locate him and save his life.

As it was it was hours before he was found.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Tishie

With respect it would of helped, Jamie was taken from outside a shop in a shopping mall by two young lads, they had him for a couple of hours while the police was looking for him.

If he had been chipped they would of been able to locate him and save his life.

As it was it was hours before he was found.

In that extremely rare case, it may have helped. I'll give you that. However, the vast majority of perpetrators in these types of cases are adults.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM

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In that extremely rare case, it may have helped. I'll give you that. However, the vast majority of perpetrators in these types of cases are adults.

Same story with Sarah Payne she was taken from a park while playing with her brother, he ran home to his grans told his mum and the police was informed.

She was found days later dead.

If she had a chip she would of been alive today.

It was an adult who took her.

lynn P. · Mar 25, 2010 at 11:41 AM

Ding, Ding - I just had a lightbulb moment and some of you are gonna laugh, but I swear it could work and yes I know the criminals would be one step ahead blah, blah. So here goes ... how about a micro-chip implanted in a nose piercing, belly button, etc. If it's ever invented you can say you saw it here lol.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tishie

Same story with Sarah Payne she was taken from a park while playing with her brother, he ran home to his grans told his mum and the police was informed.

She was found days later dead.

If she had a chip she would of been alive today.

It was an adult who took her.

Since it was an adult who took her, he would have been intelligent enough to realize that "maybe she has a chip", look for the chip, then take it out. If chips become widely used and common knowledge, this is what will happen. Human trafficking "escorts" already check for them.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lynn P.

Ding, Ding - I just had a lightbulb moment and some of you are gonna laugh, but I swear it could work and yes I know the criminals would be one step ahead blah, blah. So here goes ... how about a micro-chip implanted in a nose piercing, belly button, etc. If it's ever invented you can say you saw it here lol.

Sorry, I think it's already been invented, at least in clothing. It's designed to prevent stealing, though.

Mar 25, 2010 at 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Myers

Since it was an adult who took her, he would have been intelligent enough to realize that "maybe she has a chip", look for the chip, then take it out. If chips become widely used and common knowledge, this is what will happen. Human trafficking "escorts" already check for them.

In Sarahs case as in alot of cases they want a quick get away and taking time to find and remove a chip is not in the best interest of what they want it, like tracking on a car it will deter alot of perverts...

Mar 25, 2010 at 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Tishie

In Sarahs case as in alot of cases they want a quick get away and taking time to find and remove a chip is not in the best interest of what they want it, like tracking on a car it will deter alot of perverts...

Which is why they have this nifty device called a cell phone jammer. It emits radio frequencies that confuse and "jam" the signal of whatever is broadcasting a signal. Local pervs would probably only have the personal device (reaches about 5-10 meters). Professionals, however, have military grade jammers that reach up to 800 meters. They also take the victim to a separate, disclosed location (such as a wooded area or abandoned warehouse) where they remove the device.

I'm just saying that the potential side-effects, effectiveness (or lack thereof), invasion of privacy, and misuse of these devices outweigh the extremely rare cases of where they may help.

Mar 25, 2010 at 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Myers

Which is why they have this nifty device called a cell phone jammer. It emits radio frequencies that confuse and "jam" the signal of whatever is broadcasting a signal. Local pervs would probably only have the personal device (reaches about 5-10 meters). Professionals, however, have military grade jammers that reach up to 800 meters. They also take the victim to a separate, disclosed location (such as a wooded area or abandoned warehouse) where they remove the device.

I'm just saying that the potential side-effects, effectiveness (or lack thereof), invasion of privacy, and misuse of these devices outweigh the extremely rare cases of where they may help.

In your opinion in mine I totally disagree ! We can go on like this for years I think we are at the point of agreeing to disagree .....

AAAAA · Mar 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM

Privacy in this day and age is just a delusion we allow ourselves to believe in.

salukigirl · Mar 26, 2010 at 12:25 PM

Good point AAAA. People were so upset about google earth having cameras out catching people doing illegal or immoral things. So it's not okay for a company to do that which could potentially catch criminals but it is okay to invade your child's privacy? I used to get mad when my mom would read my notes from my friends. Personally, if my parents did that to me I would just figure out how to disable it. I think most kids could probably figure that out anyways.

AAAAA · Mar 26, 2010 at 05:35 PM

Saluki - my children are entitled to very little privacy until they are 18. Until they're old enough to be legally responsible for their own actions I have a say in the decision making process. This includes my college aged daughter that returns home for the summer. I have never felt the need to read their notes, look on their computers, check their phones, but that isn't to say I wouldn't do it in a heart beat if I thought there was a problem. This isn't an invasion, it's called parenting.

I am fortunate, I have excellent kids and they generally make good decisions. But that isn't all luck, a lot of it has to do with the way they were raised and the morals we taught them.

salukigirl · Mar 26, 2010 at 08:56 PM

I'm not trying to down your parenting style but I think I turned out pretty good and my parents (well my dad at least) were the complete opposite. When I was 16 and got my license it was pretty much "Dad, I'm going to go to so-and-so's house tonight" and he would say "okay, be safe". I was allowed to do pretty much whatever I wanted. Half the time they wouldn't even know where I was, they just assumed I was out. And it would actually be a weird thing if I was home on a Friday night.

I'm one of those people that, if my kid is staring at candle and walking towards it, he is going to learn a lot more if I let him stick his finger in and get a little hurt than if I yank him away. I guess that's how I was raised. Sure my dad knew I was going to screw up and get in trouble, but I learned a lot more messing up on my own than just having him tell me what's okay and what's not.

But of course it'd different for every child and every parents. While that worked for me growing up it might not have worked for my friends. I guess that's why they created the saying "to each his own".

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Anonymous29402 Guest Posts: n/a	Mar 25, 2010 at 10:48 AM #42 I am talking about any child in my care under the age of 18 .... My children are aged.... 5 9 10 12 20 21 As to being worried in case of infection etc well you can get an infection by having a tattoo, by going to the dentist by having a contraceptive implant I could go on.
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Anonymous29402 Guest Posts: n/a	Mar 25, 2010 at 11:02 AM #44 Shivers (dont they just) You mean Jamie Bulger and his parents are now divorced as the strain was too much for them. Also the 'boys' who did this are walking free well one of them are as the other one was recently arrested for a serious crime (which the goverment wont say what it is) so will be going back to prison ! Rehabilitation at its best hey....
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Anonymous29402 Guest Posts: n/a	Mar 25, 2010 at 11:23 AM #46 Whats lo-jacking ? If Jamie Bulger had been chipped he would be alive today.
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Anonymous29402 Guest Posts: n/a	Mar 25, 2010 at 11:32 AM #48 With respect it would of helped, Jamie was taken from outside a shop in a shopping mall by two young lads, they had him for a couple of hours while the police was looking for him. If he had been chipped they would of been able to locate him and save his life. As it was it was hours before he was found.
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AAAAA Elder Member Since Oct 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,042 16 1 hugs given	Mar 25, 2010 at 12:26 PM #57 Privacy in this day and age is just a delusion we allow ourselves to believe in. __________________ I've been married for 24 years and have four wonderful children.
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