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Default Apr 30, 2011 at 03:53 PM
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I so understand how hard this is for you right now. I'm so sorry as well.

For my daughter, when son was out of control, she took him to the ER and they called in the local mental health on call person to evaluate him. Maybe he needs some time in the hospital where they can do more evaluations and get him on some meds and see how he reacts to them. He will also learn some coping skills while in there as well.

I know this is a very difficult situation to be in and to think of your child in a psych hospital probably breaks your heart. All I can say is that I thank God for the childrens psych hospital as it has been my daughters and grandsons saviors when he needs med changes etc.

Sending you prayers and strength to continue the good fight.
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Default May 01, 2011 at 01:03 AM
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Thank you sabby. I don't think we have a children's psych hospital here. I've been to all of our local psych hospitals, and I've never seen any kids there.

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Default May 01, 2011 at 05:27 PM
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Oh dear.....there must be something available for the kids somewhere. I can't imagine not having something there to lean on when needed in these cases. Is there anyone you can call, maybe the ER to ask what they would do for a child out of control?

How are you doing today? I hope you have been able to find some "me" time.

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Default May 01, 2011 at 06:59 PM
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Oh dear, I'm so sorry for what you're going through.

I've had very similar struggles with both my kids, but especially my son. Your guy is most definitely going to need some sort of medication. But also, he still needs to be held accountable for his actions so carefully consider how you're dealing with his misbehavior. With my son, for instance, he loses TV, computer and video game priveleges for a day or a week, depending on what he's done. Also, by the same token, we focus on a good behavior that we want to see more of and when he's reached a goal he earns a special reward like a new toy, special outing, movie night, etc. Since I got really strict with this, both ways, his behavior has improved dramatically.

Hang in there until you can get to the psych doc. Keep reaching out to folks here and to your friends and family for support.
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Thank you both. 2muchcoffee, I do the same with my son. He has to earn computer time, and he only gets to play computer or videogames on the weekends period. Losing priviledges throws him into total meltdowns, every time.

The problem is that he won't take responsibility for his actions. It's always everybody else's fault. Like today, he did not get to play on the computer, so he threw a major fit and blamed it all on me, saying that it's my choice and him not getting to play is all my fault.

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The problem is that he won't take responsibility for his actions. It's always everybody else's fault. Like today, he did not get to play on the computer, so he threw a major fit and blamed it all on me, saying that it's my choice and him not getting to play is all my fault.
Well, eventually he will have to take responsibility or he will keep losing priveleges. Maybe try setting a short-term goal that is realistic for him, fairly easy to achieve, so he can see a reward for good behavior. Then slowly increase the difficulty.

He's saying those things because he's mad and wants to hurt you and/or get you to back down. I'm pretty sure he knows it's his own fault but he's mad. You have to stay strong and decide you're not going to let his ranting get to you.

As for me and my parenting style, I don't stand for fits. We all have a right to be sad/mad/frustrated/angry but we don't have a right to take those feelings out on anyone else. If my son wants to mouth off like that, yell, scream, whatever, he goes to his room until he's done and calmed down. If going to his room is not an option, then we start adding days to his grounding and as soon as we get home they go on the calendar. He does not get away with disrespecting me or anyone else.

Listen, I know it's not easy. You have the hardest job on earth and you're doing the best you can with what you know. These little stinkers don't come with instruction manuals. I'm just giving you bits of info from my own experience and maybe there will be something you can use. If not, at least know there's one more person supporting you.
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Well, eventually he will have to take responsibility or he will keep losing priveleges. Maybe try setting a short-term goal that is realistic for him, fairly easy to achieve, so he can see a reward for good behavior. Then slowly increase the difficulty.

He's saying those things because he's mad and wants to hurt you and/or get you to back down. I'm pretty sure he knows it's his own fault but he's mad. You have to stay strong and decide you're not going to let his ranting get to you.

As for me and my parenting style, I don't stand for fits. We all have a right to be sad/mad/frustrated/angry but we don't have a right to take those feelings out on anyone else. If my son wants to mouth off like that, yell, scream, whatever, he goes to his room until he's done and calmed down. If going to his room is not an option, then we start adding days to his grounding and as soon as we get home they go on the calendar. He does not get away with disrespecting me or anyone else.

Listen, I know it's not easy. You have the hardest job on earth and you're doing the best you can with what you know. These little stinkers don't come with instruction manuals. I'm just giving you bits of info from my own experience and maybe there will be something you can use. If not, at least know there's one more person supporting you.
Sounds like we are very similar. I do the same thing, I don't put up with backtalking/giving me attitude/throwing fits. I too send him to his room, which always turns into a huge powerstrugge, because he just refuses to go until I drag him off. And I too keep adding days to him being grounded and write them on the calendar. As for rewards, we have a reward chart, my son gets points for good behavior, helping out, and so on, and he loses points for things like arguing or getting in trouble in school. If he has 50 points at the end of the week, he gets a special treat of some sort. When we first started this, he usually had the 50 points by wednesday. Now he doesn't reach them at all anymore.

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Taking her hand he softly says

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Is waiting there to hold and keep you
Welcome to the first day of your life

Just open up your eyes as I lay you down tonight
Safe on the other side
No more tears to cry
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Default May 01, 2011 at 10:52 PM
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Well, it sounds like you're doing everything you can at this point. Just wait until he gets on some meds that work. You'll see a major improvement.

Meanwhile, do you also have him on an IEP at school? If not, he should be. There are a lot of things available with an IEP in place. We can chat about that anytime. Both my kiddos are on IEP's and it has helped immensely to work closely with teachers and counselors at school. I ride them close, too, email and call at least a few times a week. I'll warn his teacher in the morning if he's not feeling well, has a bad morning or looks like he might be out of sorts, so she can be ready to give him a little extra help if needed. I also let the teachers know what rewards or consequences are in place for him at home so they can support him to achieve those things.

Hang in there, sister. It's a process but you will see success and all your hard work and perseverance will pay off for your son. All good thoughts and prayers for you!
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