Has anyone else heard: No need to report income to SSDI under a certain amount?

JoeS21 · Jul 27, 2014 at 10:14 PM

I heard that as long as you make under $700 or so a month from working, you do NOT need to report that to SSDI. You do have to tell SSDI when you start working. No need to keep calling every month to report income less than $700 or so.

Who else has heard this? Or the opposite?

Fresia · Jul 28, 2014 at 05:52 AM

I was told by SS that you are to report all income. At the end of each year, once taxes are done the next tax season, they will get IRS statements to the effect of your income to verify otherwise whether or not a given month(s) will have met the criteria for a trial work period month, if it goes over $770, this year's amount. If you are within guidelines and have not used us your TWP months, you will not owe but if you let it go and used up your TWP months and are still earning over 770, you could find yourself in a position that you have to pay back your social security.

Perna · Jul 28, 2014 at 09:28 AM

All earnings much be reported, wages and others:

http://www.ssa.gov/disability/Docume...oc%20final.pdf

Hellion · Jul 28, 2014 at 01:04 PM

I think specifically work related earnings only have to be reported....for instance if its your birthday and someone gives you a check/cash as a gift I do not think you have to report that. Or if your relative needs their lawn mowed and wants to throw you 10 bucks for it or something.....But if its employment related income you have to report you found employment and how much you are making.

JoeS21 · Jul 28, 2014 at 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Fresia

I was told by SS that you are to report all income. At the end of each year, once taxes are done the next tax season, they will get IRS statements to the effect of your income to verify otherwise whether or not a given month(s) will have met the criteria for a trial work period month, if it goes over $770, this year's amount. If you are within guidelines and have not used us your TWP months, you will not owe but if you let it go and used up your TWP months and are still earning over 770, you could find yourself in a position that you have to pay back your social security.

Thanks for your reply, but my question was about making less than $700 a month.

JoeS21 · Jul 28, 2014 at 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Fresia

I was told by SS that you are to report all income. At the end of each year, once taxes are done the next tax season, they will get IRS statements to the effect of your income to verify otherwise whether or not a given month(s) will have met the criteria for a trial work period month, if it goes over $770, this year's amount. If you are within guidelines and have not used us your TWP months, you will not owe but if you let it go and used up your TWP months and are still earning over 770, you could find yourself in a position that you have to pay back your social security.

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Originally Posted by Perna

All earnings much be reported, wages and others:

http://www.ssa.gov/disability/Docume...oc%20final.pdf

Thanks, but my question was about HOW FREQUENTLY one has to report earnings of LESS THAN $700 a month.

JoeS21 · Jul 28, 2014 at 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellion

I think specifically work related earnings only have to be reported....for instance if its your birthday and someone gives you a check/cash as a gift I do not think you have to report that. Or if your relative needs their lawn mowed and wants to throw you 10 bucks for it or something.....But if its employment related income you have to report you found employment and how much you are making.

Thank you, I know. But HOW FREQUENTLY do you have to report income if it's less than $700 a month?

(I was told you don't have to report monthly, but the representative who said so didn't sound competent.)

Hellion · Jul 29, 2014 at 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeS21

Thank you, I know. But HOW FREQUENTLY do you have to report income if it's less than $700 a month?

(I was told you don't have to report monthly, but the representative who said so didn't sound competent.)

Not sure exactly, probably would have to call the office in your state...but probably the same frequency as any other amount if it is a regular income even if it is only 700$, but just to be sure reporting monthly might be a good idea.

Gus1234U · Jul 29, 2014 at 09:43 AM

You should Report ALL Employment Earnings EVERY MONTH in writing, if you do not understand the previous replies.

sabby · Jul 29, 2014 at 10:15 AM

Here's a link to the SSA's working while receiving SSDI and SSI.

http://www.socialsecurity.gov/pubs/EN-05-10095.pdf

When you report to the SSA the pertinent information, ask them then, how often you need to report it.

junkDNA · Jul 29, 2014 at 10:19 AM

i fax in my pay stubs at the end of every month. and it is way below the max income level

Perna · Jul 29, 2014 at 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeS21

Thanks, but my question was about HOW FREQUENTLY one has to report earnings of LESS THAN $700 a month.

The amount does not matter. You have to report all gross earnings each month. It's $770 this year that you should not earn more than. Earning more (as shown when you report your earnings for that month) can get you kicked into the 9 month trial work program:

Has anyone else heard: No need to report income to SSDI under a certain amount?

Has anyone else heard: No need to report income to SSDI under a certain amount?

JoeS21 · Jul 29, 2014 at 08:08 PM

Right, I'm only earning $30 a week. I called SS and was told that there is no need to report that on any regular basis. Given that, I was not told how to report income either. (I'm in Massachusetts if that matters.)

I am asking on here because the rep I spoke with did NOT sound very competent. Maybe I'll call once again and ask the same question. I might frame it that I just wanted to make sure I wrote this down correctly or something so that the record of my calling twice with the same question will NOT seem odd.

(JD) · Jul 30, 2014 at 08:38 AM

I'm not on SSI/SSDI but on worker comp and I have to report any income the previous year...I do this on forms each January. Is there something like that set up for SS?

Gus1234U · Jul 30, 2014 at 10:06 AM

P.S. if you are a client of the Division of Vocational Rehabilitation, and exceed your Trial Work Period, then relapse, you are eligible for immediate (for SocSec that's about 2 months) reinstatement of your disablity benefits. AND they will help you with things like dental and glasses, assistive devices and help you spend your Ticket To Work, on a Vocational Case Manager or other supports.

if you are on SSI you are the highest priority for Voc Rehab. it's a burdensome process, tho. good prep to see if you can handle the stress of work...

be prepared to show that you are able to work, but still need supports.

JoeS21 · Jul 30, 2014 at 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Hellion

I think specifically work related earnings only have to be reported....for instance if its your birthday and someone gives you a check/cash as a gift I do not think you have to report that. Or if your relative needs their lawn mowed and wants to throw you 10 bucks for it or something.....But if its employment related income you have to report you found employment and how much you are making.

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Originally Posted by Gus1234U

P.S. if you are a client of the Division of Vocational Rehabilitation, and exceed your Trial Work Period, then relapse, you are eligible for immediate (for SocSec that's about 2 months) reinstatement of your disablity benefits. AND they will help you with things like dental and glasses, assistive devices and help you spend your Ticket To Work, on a Vocational Case Manager or other supports.

if you are on SSI you are the highest priority for Voc Rehab. it's a burdensome process, tho. good prep to see if you can handle the stress of work...

be prepared to show that you are able to work, but still need supports.

FYI - All 9 Ticket To Work months are still available and have NOT been used, if that's relevant to my question.

My question remains, "Is it necessary to report earning under $700 to SSDI on a MONTHLY basis in Massachusetts?"

~Christina · Jul 30, 2014 at 09:04 PM

Yes you have to report any "work/ employment income .. Does that answer YOUR question?

JoeS21 · Jul 30, 2014 at 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ~Christina

Yes you have to report any "work/ employment income .. Does that answer YOUR question?

Haha, thanks but not entirely. I'm going to call SSDI for the second time about this and keep checking back here to make sure I've got this right. I know they require you to report income. I am confused about HOW OFTEN. The last rep I spoke with said, "no need to report monthly." I need to confirm this, or to confirm that it is false.

Fresia · Aug 01, 2014 at 05:00 AM

I would go in to verify for yourself.

I was just in to social security last week as I am starting work and will have income for the first time; they said to report all income monthly, though it does not have to be a specific day, but does have to be each month.

Perna · Aug 01, 2014 at 09:34 AM

I guess I would make a determination on "how" you earn the $30. If someone hands you cash informally, I would not bother to report it. If you get an actual paycheck or something where taxes are taken out, etc., I would report that. I would report anything with a paper trail.

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JoeS21 Member Member Since Jul 2014 Location: Boston Posts: 450 9 13 hugs given	Jul 27, 2014 at 10:14 PM #1 I heard that as long as you make under $700 or so a month from working, you do NOT need to report that to SSDI. You do have to tell SSDI when you start working. No need to keep calling every month to report income less than $700 or so. Who else has heard this? Or the opposite?
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~Christina Legendary Wise Elder Community Liaison Member Since Jul 2011 Location: Tennessee Posts: 22,450 (SuperPoster!) 12 12.7k hugs given	Jul 30, 2014 at 09:04 PM #17 Yes you have to report any "work/ employment income .. Does that answer YOUR question? __________________ Helping others gets me out of my own head ~
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Perna Pandita-in-training Member Since Sep 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 27,289 (SuperPoster!) 17 550 hugs given	Aug 01, 2014 at 09:34 AM #20 I guess I would make a determination on "how" you earn the $30. If someone hands you cash informally, I would not bother to report it. If you get an actual paycheck or something where taxes are taken out, etc., I would report that. I would report anything with a paper trail. __________________ "Never give a sword to a man who can't dance." ~Confucius
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