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Old Jul 31, 2014, 01:58 AM
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In your opinion, at review (CDR) time, is it likely for someone to get kicked off SSDI for making $50 a week on a regular basis for a full year? For tutoring or babysitting.

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Old Jul 31, 2014, 02:28 AM
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The Trial Work Period
The Trial Work Period (TWP) is designed to allow SSDI recipients to experiment with working while still receiving their full monthly benefit. It consists of a total of nine months, not necessarily consecutive, over a 60-month period. During these nine months, a person may earn an unlimited amount without lowering their monthly cash benefit. The TWP was developed many years ago to encourage disability recipients to go back to work when they can.
A TWP month is triggered whenever an individual earns more than $770 per month or when a self-employed individual (that is, business owner, freelancer, consultant, etc.) works 80 hours in a month.

You are well below $770 per month so should be absolutely fine. But you could contact social security directly to make certain.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 03:46 PM
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The Trial Work Period
The Trial Work Period (TWP) is designed to allow SSDI recipients to experiment with working while still receiving their full monthly benefit. It consists of a total of nine months, not necessarily consecutive, over a 60-month period. During these nine months, a person may earn an unlimited amount without lowering their monthly cash benefit. The TWP was developed many years ago to encourage disability recipients to go back to work when they can.
A TWP month is triggered whenever an individual earns more than $770 per month or when a self-employed individual (that is, business owner, freelancer, consultant, etc.) works 80 hours in a month.

You are well below $770 per month so should be absolutely fine. But you could contact social security directly to make certain.
Thanks but my question is about CDRs NOT ticket to work. Ticket to work is an unrelated matter.
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Old Jul 31, 2014, 09:47 PM
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Same answer dear. According to all the paperwork they have given my husband anything under $770 a month isn't a livable wage. If the amount doesn't trigger the TWP then it shouldn't be enough to change your benefits at CDR either. But as I mentioned before you can always call them and ask to make sure. If your local office is anything like ours expect about two weeks to get an answer. Good luck on your review
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Old Aug 01, 2014, 04:26 PM
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In my conversation with the rep the other day, they are concerned with reportable taxable income as they check this at the end of every year with the IRS after tax season as to an earnings we have all reported in each tax year. The amounts you describe seem to fall into the category as being UNDER the amount that is needed for even being reported as taxable income, so there would be no record of it with the IRS for social security; the reportable minimum income amount is designated each tax year, and you can find out online at the IRS website or contact a local accountant or tax office, like an H&R Block to ask what amount of earnings are considered the minimum reportable income. It used to be under $400 net profit for the self-employed but it may very well have changed.

If it is not taxable reportable income, it sounds as though it would not be of any consequence to social security, which is what that rep seems to have been telling you when she said you didn't need to report that amount, as you would not have to file taxes for it; but if in turn if you go over the minimum reportable amount or if you go over ESPECIALLY $770, (it is not $700 this year), then it would definitely matter to social security affecting your benefits and count towards your trial work period, as you know.

I was told and read in their brochures to submit ONCE A MONTH, to my local office by mail or in person, COPIES of my paycheck stubs or receipts for services rendered if self-employed for proof of income no matter the amount; however, if concerned about income below $770, this is what I would do for these concerns to make sure all was kosher:

1. Find out what the non-reportable income amount is for the self-employed for this tax year with a tax office or IRS website or accountant;
2. Contact social security and ask whether there is a SPECIFIC minimum amount that needs to reported; and
3. Ask them where it says their answers in writing to confirm it unless you can find it on their website to calm any fears.

It sounds like you don't have anything to worry about but there seems to be a gray area that I understand your concern in wanting to get it clarified and allay any fears.
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 01:27 AM
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In my conversation with the rep the other day, they are concerned with reportable taxable income as they check this at the end of every year with the IRS after tax season as to an earnings we have all reported in each tax year. The amounts you describe seem to fall into the category as being UNDER the amount that is needed for even being reported as taxable income, so there would be no record of it with the IRS for social security; the reportable minimum income amount is designated each tax year, and you can find out online at the IRS website or contact a local accountant or tax office, like an H&R Block to ask what amount of earnings are considered the minimum reportable income. It used to be under $400 net profit for the self-employed but it may very well have changed.

If it is not taxable reportable income, it sounds as though it would not be of any consequence to social security, which is what that rep seems to have been telling you when she said you didn't need to report that amount, as you would not have to file taxes for it; but if in turn if you go over the minimum reportable amount or if you go over ESPECIALLY $770, (it is not $700 this year), then it would definitely matter to social security affecting your benefits and count towards your trial work period, as you know.

I was told and read in their brochures to submit ONCE A MONTH, to my local office by mail or in person, COPIES of my paycheck stubs or receipts for services rendered if self-employed for proof of income no matter the amount; however, if concerned about income below $770, this is what I would do for these concerns to make sure all was kosher:

1. Find out what the non-reportable income amount is for the self-employed for this tax year with a tax office or IRS website or accountant;
2. Contact social security and ask whether there is a SPECIFIC minimum amount that needs to reported; and
3. Ask them where it says their answers in writing to confirm it unless you can find it on their website to calm any fears.

It sounds like you don't have anything to worry about but there seems to be a gray area that I understand your concern in wanting to get it clarified and allay any fears.
Yes, I believe that making $50 a WEEK is going to require me to file taxes and report that income to the IRS.
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Old Aug 02, 2014, 09:18 AM
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Your opinion: SSDI & Making only  a week on a regular basis

Understanding Supplemental Security Income (SSI)-- Continuing Disability Reviews

I agree with raindropvampire's answer. You won't necessarily get kicked off if you make money you'll be kicked into Ticket to Work. However, $200/month looks to be below that level.
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