got denied ssi

and so i tried to contact appeal lawyers, they asked me when was my last insured date and if I had a doctor that would say i'm unable to work due to my diagnosis and so I didn't have a last insured date so they told me they can't help me. What am I supposed to do now? I am thinking about contacting a different lawyer firm and seeing if they can help me.. I am disappointment and scared for my life... because life isn't easy for me.

How did you answer their questions about you having a supportive doctor?

It won't cost you a dime to contact other lawyers. I recommend the big law firms that specialize in helping people get SSDI/SSI. They advertise on TV and on the Internet.

Are you currently under any treatment for a disability? That's one of the main things that the lawyers look for.

Sorry you got turned down. Not having an income is one of the worst stresses to deal with.

i get seen by a psychiatrist and therapist and I currently take meds..
i'm going to try calling more law firms tomorrow. I called today and it sent me directly to the answering machine..

i know i posted a reply but for some reason it's not showing...

I said that yea i am on meds, see a psychiatrist and therapist and soon going to go to a group if they have one. I tried to call another law firm today but it went straight to the answering machine, so i will try again tomorrow... I have a couple of days left to appeal.. It's weird because I should have been able to still get help being that I can appeal for SSI if i don't have enough work credits. It's messed up because i did work like 3 years and don't understand how that isn't considered a work credit... i don't understand how work credits work any and need to do my research on it...

Sorry you are having so much trouble but your psychiatrist and therapist should both be able to help you.

My sister in law was denied SSDI because she was short just a few credits. She had a long history of working but it was for the a city so they have their own program.

You need to keep calling different attorneys that deal with just SSDI/SSI. I was denied but within a couple of months approved. I was also told that most people get denied first because it helps weed out the people who could work but just do not want to work.

Keep calling lawyers and make sure your doctors are on board with you get SSI. That is the key

You just have to sign a form and mail it back to appeal, right? You don't have to wait for a lawyer before you do that. It's good to send the form Certified Mail, Return Receipt if you have the money for that. (around $6-$7 I think.)

So i don't have to have a lawyer to appeal, that's weird, I thought I did if I want to get a chance at winning the case. I will check the mail again to make sure. Tomorrow I will talk with my therapist about this too.

without medication, it's a lot harder for me to get out of my bed and it's like the depression just lasts for days... I remember when I just had it with that, and I was thinking about suicide constantly because every single day was the same thing, even thought i wanted to do things, I just couldn't because I just felt so tired and messed up so I ended up being admitted to the hospital for almost a month because I told my therapist that I was thinking about suicide and that my life was ruined because I had horrible anxiety the messed things up in my life. Then I got prescribed something different and I started to go outside more but still I have issues with having a bad sleep pattern... and the same thing is happening again, having days or weeks where I just want to stay inside... it's like the medication is just not working anymore.. and it's like i can't bring myself to keep going outside every day, or to do things productive from start to finish consistently... It's frustrating... but on days when things are going well, i am happier because of it but the fact that I have these issues, makes me see that I need help... I've been trying to find more help for the issues i deal with... and it's sad that I'm in my 20s and still not independent enough... it hurts me what i've been through and what i'm still going through.

The fact that the meds kind of helped me out a bit more almost makes me think like i'm better but then again it's like I still get bad days... and that's the reason i'm still going to go through with this and appeal the ssi. I have a lot of things that happened to me... it's crazy that i'm still here and alive even through the pain that i endured. I apologize i don't want to talk about myself too much...

You do not have to have an attorney to appeal. It is good to send it certified that way you have proof that you sent it.

My son has autism but is high functioning plus he has mild retardation. I filled out his paperwork and gave them current reports from the doctors and he was approved right away. He does have a job and so currently he does not get any money from SSI but he still has an open case. I send them in his paycheck stubs every other month. He also goes in once a year to see them.

If he was to loose his job all I would have to do is all and say he lost his job and his SSI would start right away. So you really need to make sure your doctors are on board with you getting SSI. Depending on your DX is what depends on if you qualify or not

You might still be turned down, without a lawyer...but even so I know of only 1 person who was accepted the first time... built in money saver for the govt I guess. good wishes.

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I will appeal with a lawyer...

If you have to go to a judge hearing, it's good to have a lawyer go with you for that. The "appeal form" that comes in the mail and has to be returned within a specific time is just for you to say that you don't agree with their finding that you're not eligible.

After you send that form back in, they will take another look at your case and usually ask for more medical information. If they deny you a second time, (it will be the same kind of form) you want to sign and return the appeal form for that also.

After two denials, the next step is to go before an administrative law judge. That is a Social Security employee, not a judge like a criminal court judge. That is when the lawyer would go with you.

You don't always have to go to a judge hearing. You may get approved on this next step. (I call that step 2.)

It's important when you get anything in the mail from Disability Determination Services to notice if it says you have to return something by a certain date, whether it's an appeal form or that long form that asks all the questions about your health problems and medical treatment.

I also found that if they proved a fax number it's better to fax the stuff. The fax number they give you goes directly to the computer of the person handling your case.

I have been receiving SSDI since 1999. At the end of last year 2014 I got a letter saying it was time for them to review my case again. One week later I got another letter saying never mind everything was ok. then in January I got a packet to fill out and return within 10 days. they also wanted doctors reports etc. I faxed them then got another packet to fill out and so did my husband. My doctors also got stuff and I had to stay on their case to get them to do it. One doctor told me she only opens her mail once a month. she had 10 days to get back to them.

It's a pain in the butt but you have to stay on top of it. Make phone calls fax stuff if you can or always send everything certified. But I was first denied then got a lawyer and with the lawyers help got approved within a couple of months. When you get approved like that the most the lawyer can take is $5,000. If you have to go before a judge they can take 25% of your back pay. And it's all taxable. you will have to claim it on your taxes.

Find a lawyer that deals with this stuff and just be prepared. I have known people that have fought for 3 years to get it.

Good luck

Hi Spectrolite, just a thought since you mentioned ur on meds, perhaps you could go to your pharmacy and have them pull up your med history. However many you go to all phRmacys run n print a report free of charge. Many can go back more than five years. They should able to tell you the names of doctors and the perscribed drugs. This might help narrow down when you were last insured. Also if ur insurance covered ur meds the history print out from the pharmacy should indicate that as well.
Most people are denied the first few times they apply. Its nothing personal, its how they keep they're jobs. Terrible but true. I worked as a contractor there for several years. If you tell them that you have mental issues and or physical issues they should assign you a case worker to help you. Keep calling until you get a rep that will help. Did they send you a list of stuff as to why u were denied or is it just your last insured date?
Also they have a "book" of eligable disabilites, u may already kno this, but if you google: ssa.gov disability blue book, the results lead you to this helpful guide. Dont give up. If you miss a date for an appeal a doctors note explaining you are not always emotionally n mentally able to deal with the pressure or have to ability to organize what you need. The may extend the deadline or re-open an appeal. I used that several times when i missed deadlines.
Keep in touch...just to let you kno....i am not always here but i try to be.
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Age probably makes a lot of difference for SSI, especially if your parents/guardians did not receive SSDI/SSI for you as a younger person. SSDI is Social Security and dependent on your (or a parent/guardian's) long term work history but if you have not worked much and are young, it can be hard for them to judge you permanently disabled as there's so many more years ahead and there's not much background, it seeming "sudden" like. Just like you need a history of work for SSDI and that not working out well over time, you need a history of disability over time for SSI, and trying to work, etc. and that not working out.

There is some good advice above, but I will take issue with one thing, based on what I read and heard from books and videos by attorneys. They say that this is the main thing that people misunderstand. There are a few diagnoses that will get you approved automatically. They are blindness, Lou Gehrig's Disease, end stage Renal Disease (kidneys not working) and maybe a couple more. With the exception of those few diseases or conditions, the Social Security Administration is really not very interested at all in what you have as a diagnosis. Qualifying for SSDI or SSI does NOT depend on what your diagnosis is. Lawyers say that is the main thing that applicants don't understand. SSA does not really care what your diagnosis is or how much you have suffered from it. Here us what they care about: What are your SYMPTOMS, and how do those symptoms interfere with you holding down a job?

It is not true that they turn down most people just to weed out those who are not really serious about not being able to work. That's a myth that most people believe. Even a lot of doctors believe that. Most people get turned down because they thought all they had to do is prove that they have a serious diagnosis given to them by a doctor. This is why most people need to have a lawyer. This is why having the support of your doctor, psychiatrist and therapist may not be all that much help.

A doctor is not a lawyer. A doctor is not going to try and think like a lawyer. That is not the job of a doctor. Here's what a lawyer understands: You've got to prove (or establish beyond reasonable doubt) that the sympyoms of your illness were so disabling that, even with the help of medical treatment, those symptoms interferred with you being able to work. You have to show, specifically, how your particular symptoms got in the way of you being able to work. You have to show that problem persisted, even after you got treatment.

There are people with just about every diagnosis you can think of who are out there succeeding in the work place. Patty Duke is an actress who had a hit television show. She has a diagnosis of bipolar disorder and advocates for mental health issues. Despite severe symptoms from her psychiatric disorder, she had a successful career and earned lots of money. Brian Wilson, who was one of the original Beach Boys, has been severely ill at times due to schizoaffective disorder. He has had a very successful career as a musician. Then there are more ordinary people working at all kinds of jobs, despite having serious mental disorders. The Social Security Administration is not going to make any assumptions about your ability to work, based on you having a specific diagnosis. Some people with depression can work, and some can't. You and your lawyer will have to present a convincing argument that you are among the people who can't work.

SSA wants to know: have you tried to work? For how long did you try? What happened when you tried? Did you try a variety of different types of work? Did you try to work after you got treatment for your symptoms? Were you let go from jobs due to failing to perform adequately? This may sound like a hard standard to meet. It's not as tough as it sounds. An experienced disability lawyer knows just what kind of on-the-job difficulties relate to your psych disability and how to explain the relationship. A lawyer likes to know you have a supportive doctor. The lawyer knows exactly what kind of documentation is needed from the doctor, therapist and any hospital you may have been in. Don't count on the doctor to know what is needed. Most of them don't really know.

There is no law that says you have to have a lawyer for the appeal, or for anything. But you'ld have to be some kind of genius to figure it all out on your own. I didn't consider myself that capable or knowledgeable.

I recommend calling the big disability law firms that advertise on TV and on the Internet. It won't cost a dime to talk to them. If a few of them turn you down, then you probably just don't have a very good case at this point in your life. Being young can work against you. The SSA might figure you just need more experience trying.

i'm waiting on the court date. I hope I know how to explain my case because sometimes I can't remember what to talk about or what are my issues and that is an issue in itself. Short term memory loss and inability to explain things at times. Also anxiety makes my mind go blank when people ask me questions.

don't be scared. it is totally normal to get denied the first go around. contact a disability attorney, get all your diagnosis paperwork together, take that with you and find a community health department, apply for medical services, establush a doctor, ask for the letter you need for your disability claim, return to lawyer and then be prepared for a long wait. one to two years. good luck