[InfiniteSadness]

like on the phone and in person... its like a great effort for me to do. And im not really interested in what they say because my interests are different from most of them..

[MudCrab]

Hello, InfiniteSadness. In what context do you have this difficulty? Is it a social thing like talking to someone you find interesting and would like to get to know better?

[mropenforchanging]

Originally Posted by InfiniteSadness

like on the phone and in person... its like a great effort for me to do. And im not really interested in what they say because my interests are different from most of them..

It isn't just you. Girls are too stupid, and they don't give a shet for our feelings, they are selfish creature, but we need to learn living with this..., personally if i can not make it till 27yrs old i ll consider becoming gay without sex

[InfiniteSadness]

Geeze, like its hard for me to even call a girl and carry on a conversation, texting is ok.. Also in general meeting them and talking to them.. Just so much effort.

[DocClyde]

Infinite: Are you just shy to begin with?

mropen: Calling them stupid definitely won't get them to your door

[InfiniteSadness]

Originally Posted by DocClyde

Infinite: Are you just shy to begin with?

mropen: Calling them stupid definitely won't get them to your door

Yeah, I'm pretty shy to an extent, also have soc. anxiety disorder.

[InfiniteSadness]

Thought this was a "men's only group" LOL....

[Mike_J]

For me it's difficult to talk to women due to fear of rejection or the feeling that they might make fun of me.

I also have a bit of trouble in social situation, don't have an easy solution if anyone could come up with a real effective way for shy guys to talk to real women he could write a book and become an instant millionaire.

Any groups associated with things you are interested in, that you could join? Don't join to meet women but join to have fun and to meet people who have common interests, and if some of them happen to be women so much the better.

Originally Posted by InfiniteSadness

like on the phone and in person... its like a great effort for me to do. And im not really interested in what they say because my interests are different from most of them..

Relax and don't take it so seriously. Honestly... that is my advice

Originally Posted by mropenforchanging

It isn't just you. Girls are too stupid, and they don't give a shet for our feelings, they are selfish creature, but we need to learn living with this..., personally if i can not make it till 27yrs old i ll consider becoming gay without sex

Now that's a huge and very inaccurate stereotype to create. o.O

Funny thing is that they are the ones that are more in touch with their feelings than men are. I'ts more often that they are the ones complaining that we men don't care about their feelings.

I know quite a number of ladies that are as intelligent and/or more intelligent than myself. I don't think gender is related to level of intelligence whatsoever.

I'd be interested to find out what has molded your perspective on the opposite sex. With that attitude you won't hve to worry about living with it, they'll want nothing to do with you!

me: See hot girl. Fumble, with words, stutter and when uttering anything intelligible fails (nearly every time) turn and run. o.O

Yup I feel ya.

[InfiniteSadness]

don't know why I care anymore..... honestly.. its such BS, I feel like its always the battle of the sexes.

[Dan12345]

Relax and talk about your day ask them how theres went after that ask a question in regards to there day let them do the talking. Take it easy and the conversation will flow, if your worried about talking you won't focus right

[NoCake]

Yeah that's a problem. You're looking at it like a battle or some sort of difficult effort when it's just two people talking about stuff. It's your mindset. You have to figure out what exactly makes you nervous to start getting rid of that.

[InfiniteSadness]

good advice all, but it is a battle in a way... to prove yourself.

[astenon]

I know where you're coming from when you say it's a battle to prove yourself, but think that may be part of the problem. You're putting too much pressure on yourself to impress and that pressure is causing all the problems you experience. Try putting yourself in a social situation that includes girls, not with the intention of impressing them, but because it's something that interests. This could be some sort of club, or maybe a social with work colleagues. The more you talk to girls, hopefully the more comfortable you'll be and the less likely the foot will enter your mouth

Personally I suffer from a similar thing. I'm fine talking to the women at work (not that there's many of them ), but put me in a social situation and I'm rubbish. I'm crap at social, even when it's blokes. I feel I lack social skill and just retreat into a shell, listening to everyone else - kind of like the proverbial fly on the wall.