Calling on the men of PCF

So this men only area is pretty dead . Not much happens here . Why's that do you reckon .
I'm sure I'll get hammered for saying this , but in the General rooms you sort of get the feeling that the deluded males opinion is tolerated as long as they don't say anything peceived to be out of line . Now I don't have an issue , just thought this might get some discussion going . Are females better equipped and better masters of the internet than males . Or is it that this section is so far down the page that no one can be bothered to scroll this far ?
Are males less likely to seek another males advise ? Maybe try a fishing forum if I'm after healthy male debate do I hear you say ? 😂

Umm OK. I prefer talking to men because there's no sexual tension. But to continue enjoying this beautiful forum I will check out the "men's" section, but only after your help in bringing the issue to light.
Have a fantastic day

The problem with posting in this forum is that it rarely gets posted in so your comment always ends up being on the main page for WAY longer than I (at least) would like.

That's a fair call Mike , I can relate to what you say there . You can already see that the men of PCF have not heeded the call and posted . Even though I left it so open ended that guys could have posted anything they wanted to say and still be on topic . But thanks for throwing your hat in the ring .

I think there are just far more women participating on PC than men. In addition, I feel most men are raised to keep their feelings bottled up. As far as your proposition that we discuss fishing, I feel sorry for the poor fish when I pull them in, so can't go fishing. Am I still a "real man?"

G'day Emmy
Yeah I reckon your right on a few counts there mate . Don't sweat it about the fishing . I can't knowingly take the life of anything either , there's no pleasure in it for me , yet I'm happy to eat a steak . Very hypocritical huh . Maybe we can go on a catch and release trip , use some soft hooks , and just play tug of war with our scaley friends for a while ... enjoy just being out at sea ... we'll go and watch the humpback whales migrating close to the shoreline with their calves . Then back to the beach and dig up the camp oven of Irish Stew .. special blend with just an Irishman in their for the protein , no animal 😀
So what does make a "real man" ? I think that's a good question . Are there any real men left out there that can help us out on that one ?

I've been on here 2.5 years and I've made 25 posts, so I don't comment much, though I do check into the site 3-4 times per month. I stop by this forum (men-focused-support) nearly every time I'm here, and there's seldom much happening.

I tend to agree that venues like this draw more women than men, and for the men who do show up, it's not typically our forte to share our feelings. That seems to be a bit of a shame. Women can be great support, but I sense that they sometimes tire of playing that role, and that can show up on the margins or in the tone of their responses to typically men's issues. So.......

I think I'll start a topic.

I am here because my life has taken a very unexpected bad turn. I had been emotionally abused by the woman I love for 2 straight years, and my solution was to turn to a female friend for emotional support. I guess I kept the friendship hidden from my abuser, and of course she found out. That caused more abuse, and then I think I deserved it. I'm trying to walk that fine line between being a big, strong, wood-chopping, carpenter, golfer man - being an abused partner - and being a together person. Maybe the problem is that I can't walk a line between 3 things? See there? I can't be serious either. I use humor in all situations - funerals included.

I would hate to give up the humor because it's my most distinguishing characteristic. Is this part of the problem? That I think this?

Choppy waters fellas....

This is exactly what is happening. And just be ware of what happens when all females do agree something a male says is out of line.

Of course not. Internet is still very much male-dominated. That this place is so female-dominated is an indication of some process going on keeping males away.

I also would warn males against sharing their feelings, even here. They will be used against you some point down the line.

Remember, men aren't allowed to share and express feelings.

I'm happy that I feel what i feel and express that as I choose to, so long as i never break the laws of the land or this forum. I will continue until the day i pass from this world, to be myself and not what society wants me to be.

RIFF ON THIS @The Rational Male

Do you Self-Identify as MRA or Antifeminist?

(New) Bill O'Reilly & Jordan Peterson Interview

The above bolded sentence is a title of a youtube video where you can find a voice of a real feminist woman from the '60s, her name is 'faultroy', I hope you get to understand her point of view and also understand the world a little better. It's your brain that's mistreating women and causing the corrupt of the society. You're obviously blue-pilled, and your feminism makes me sick... The person I'm referring to would call your a man*****, your post is that offensive I'm afraid.

Frank O'Connor — 'No man is as anti-feminist as a really feminine woman.'

Jordan Peterson’s complete talk with Bettina Arndt
This is another youtube video, this one's form Peterson's Australia tour. I've been trying to listen to Dr.Peterson about his concern regarding gender issues in Western society, and judging from the description of the video, this is something I might watch, his Queens University lecture looks more interesting though. He talks about hash-tag metoo trend that's happening all over the world on some other videos, if you wanna real answers for your questions, you got to do your own research.

You want to have a healthy male only debate, and asking for something... Y'know, when this male focused support forum opened, our host Doc John were not so keen on allowing gay male issues, and unfortunately, he deleted those Q&A between him and a member who's now left PC. Does anyone understand my point? If biologically male members or trans person who need male advices wants to use this place, I think they should be welcomed, even if there are other sub-forums where members can debate the same issues. It still upsets me thinking about it. This kinda reminds me of James Damore and his autism, one tech company female CEO was commenting after the revelation like, "oops, now I understand it better...". She had a question from her employee before she got to read the news, anyways, male, tech person with autism, something like that would be appropriate for this part of forum as far as I'm concerned.

It's the difference of how you apply your everyday logic in your natural language, right? I say, f off, the girls have been talking about fashion and makeups and stuff in general chat, why are you being such a wuss? The game that you're playing here is the gender identity game that I don't like. This is like you're taking advantage of the system because you're a male. Which doesn't make your claim or wish a rational one, please think about that for this community.

Would women on PC in General Social Chat Forum be interested to discuss the Nazi connection of the word 'Asperger' with me? Perhaps not. It's the topic I'd rather share in GSC than that autism spectrum place. Fishing to me is just gender neutral, if you keep acting like that, inclusivity police will come get you and they will ban you from using that word, do you understand what I'm saying? Get your **** right. In order to do that, I'm prescribing you with 'Camille Paglia'!! She has more balls and intestine that you do. You can follow that with MRA/MGTOW basics, I just don't get how you can justify your actions here...

Why No One Cares About Feminist Theory

I'm about halfway through, I want as many men to read this. Most of y'all talk about feelings and feeling victimized, why is that? Are you just grateful to daddy John for this place so that you can ***** and moan?

Karen Straughan, check this person out if anyone out there needs strength to go against women on this website. She seems to get criticized from her enemies, and that's fine. I was just skipping through her youtube video last night, she quieted down this 3rd wave stupid girl with her talk with excellence, I believe some of you need to learn how to reason with unreasonable people with logic, yes, someone from previous post is quite true, I myself have had bunch of negative petty reactions from females on this website, 'groupthink' is the key word here, wouldn't you agree?

Please please forget your assumption about women in general, talk like that gets old real fast. Don't hide behind your identities, stop vagina pleasing, and catch up fast with our environment.

@Dog
The laws of this forum is not well-written, you can't possibly and strictly adhere to it. You don't know which words or expressions that you choose to use are taken as mean, offensive or whatever, so I'm gonna have to say, you're making a false claim, just saying. Please be a good dog and get the dose of ''Ha! Gotcha!'' from professor Peterson. Google it!

Jordan Peterson Blue Pilled? (self.MGTOW)

I'm with these people. You guys are complaining about really ****** things, we have Emotions and Coping place, don't we? You can use reddit, seriously. And if you didn't find what you want about your feelings then it'd mean your SOL. Isn't it like men exchange knowledge and tell each other stories for many things, most guys here don't talk real. I really don't understand that some replies here appears to understand their own vagueness in their expressions... Emotional neediness or demanding of help that's mainly about male emotions are ,,, silly.

You're from Australia, cool. You MUST watch Privilege Rap from ABC, there are two videos, the second one is the reply to internet folks, and you'll find it on ABC comedy's facebook post. And the awful tax wasting response from the public broadcast system "raps" about women's empathy!!! You should be enraged about this, there's this one Aussie white dude who criticize these media BS, he makes his videos because he's got a little kid. Get the ****ing message in your own backyard about Women spewing toxic propagandas, please.

Equality of Outcome for both men and women will end in disaster, this is the mind trap most men on this website doesn't seem to get. It takes personal and historical understanding,,,and what is PCF? Native English speaker always does this, especially Americans and I usually think Aussie culture follow American trend. So, is it some type of special fishing game? It sounds to me like an obscure video game that I don't play, you could've been bored or something, I get it. Lots of old folks on this website doesn't have much wisdoms that I could use, if you are in that age group, I'd understand your post even more...

Sorry, I sound quite rude, but this is not my fault. You said women is better at web things, it's slightly more complicated than that. Think of intersectionality of feminism, and they are not going away. You could've kept your mouth shut with your fishing friend wanted ads, but your mind wondered off to women things, which seems quite big part of your brain. Would you mind reading the part that mentions quantum theory in the linked reddit page? They talk truth, we really don't know anything about this world with certainty.

I like philosophy and science, now biology is under attack from feminism, far left thinkers and such. I don't know what to say, it's not proper human attitude to think like, I have something that I want to share and it's quite emotional, and I need a place for guys only. It doesn't matter which gender this social difficulty is coming from, it's a necessity of life for people to take on the civil attitude that's given, what is right about turning away from that?

I usually ignore cringe videos on the net but somehow,,, yeah, I first found it on conservative channel run by a guy from US. Are you a white male? Your race is under attack, your surrounding will force you to take untruthful and cunningly manipulated gynocentric value judgment on you and all the rest of white/asian males will suffer for it. You can make excuses in various ways, and you can be sure that there are many many ways to fail the society or a person.

Why won't you find gay friend(s)? They might not be into fishing... It's not a bad idea for male talk centered around emotions, is it? I use my emotions for the confirmations of abstracted human conceptual understanding of the universe that I inhabit in. None of the knowledge I seek can not be attained without full range of emotions, it has to be self-regulated, and I got spiritual fatum.

Pain Is Inevitable; Suffering Is Optional @Psychology Today

Analyze this worthless garbage. You can check the author's credentials, as well as the comment sections. And ask yourself why people suffer. You got to learn how your emotions and thoughts are joined at the hip, remember the gynocentrism, philosophy can teach us how to love the knowledge that's presented to us. It is still your choice, don't let any theories in your head fool you.

Edited to Add:
This is pushing it but I really like to say it. This is a forum and irregardless() of the vague guideline in place, the topic we tend to talk in the majority of mental sickness forums are things that we can't technically define with precisions, some people love disease concepts, others rejects prescription pills.

We Need Ecstasy and Opioids in Place of Prozac and Xanax

These stories have been popping up on the websites I've been visiting, and those websites allow totally mainstream stories and study findings and stuff too. MORONS on this website tend to post things thinking their opinion count even after someone else already posted something with proper references, the attitude of those members are feminine. It's this modern society's fault. "I feel my fact is different, so I get to say whatever I want.", it disrupt the structure of forum's flow, it's understandably low quality because many people are mentally disordered including myself.

And people who are reading this may have noticed that there are many feminist writers on main stream web media outlets, things get so watered down as personal knowledge/opinions when they filtered through some people's brains, all I see is cookie cutter 'I post therefore I am' style low grade posting. I'm not excluding myself from this,,,race, what makes it difficult for smarter person(s) is that this gets excruciatingly dull, women and men alike hold grudge on this website.

Real lawyers out there in the world knows how PIA borderline people can be, I come here with the same emotional preparedness. Sometimes things are worse because members here have been fed with wrong informations, you probably haven't seen enough craziness. Women just talk too much. I sometimes come across issues of Racism(!) in my country from really old posts, they disappoint me.

Supposedly we men are guilty for this mess. And I'm a mgtow now like great Schopenhauer or Nietzsche, many women think they are misogynists, and express those opinions. Many scholars doesn't see it that way, even feminists philosophers take some of ideas from those historically significant people. Some people on here can be ,,, someone I'd like to stay away from for eternity, there's the statistical number issues, there are too many women with incoherent brains, you can find some of them on bipolar forum. I called them losers before, they'd probably think I'm a loser and I don't care.

"Don't listen to him." or "This is not a dating websites!", the latter one was uttered to a new male user/visitor, he was talking normal. It's so black and white out there, and things makes me sad when I see a post that makes me wanna scream, "How's that a support?". They are killing new comers with mentally devastating words, women dominates that place and they have low morality. The same automatic, resentful and bipolar attack has happened to me in general social chat too, it's no fun.

The political left is mentally ill. There's a big truth in that. So as long as you use your female configuration of your brain, you'd be acting like people you feel offended by, and I'm not here to tell you what to do.

Well, think of a situation where you'd be starting a thread in a General Social Chat about fishing. You could say a few things like what you typed in your first post and there's a chance that some women just comes along and say, "I don't like fish(ing)." or similar, the dumbest youtube comment mentality are on this website too. I also sometimes see a new member introducing themselves by adding, 'Y'all are so nice and understanding, that's why I'm here.' . This is just not healthy mentality, too naive, right?

You can just look up these collective thinking behaviors on the internet, the second and the third metoo! types could be ignored? It'll be your fight and you definitely should fight those *****es off, people here tend to leave short vague comments with resentment, take your time and question them. They are not realizing that they are being rude or uncivil, any member reserve the right to be judged with fairness, the forum guideline is totally different to any of criminal codes in real world, I actually went to firefox/mozilla forum's forum posting guideline page before, stack exchange people are so good at governing themselves, here, I have no choice but to rely on myself 100%.

It's not an obligation to be nice to *****s, and you know what? This one veteran member was so mean to this former webcam girl, I remember other personal incident too, and she's such a kissass, you won't believe it. Women's relationship advices are so insane, I hope this person is still alive but he could be dead from a heart attack for all I know, "Hey, this is my womanly advice, oh, if she said that, then this or that....", did the person know if the couple was a rather unusual pair? I wouldn't know.

Women can not know how other person's way of thinking are like, but many women won't hesitate to provide their pisspoor advices that comes from their kindness, good intentions are prerequisite,,,,I've seen too many unbelievably dumb posts on PC, I just try to survive on this forum with my instinct.

There has been too many nasty *****es on PC, this one was thinking that she wasn't pointing a finger at me with her resentment, she thought she was safe. Women see what they don't like, and they just go *****y for no good reason. People get enraged and post, regret and delete their posts, it's funny if you notice these things.

Being a woman, and a career mentally ill person doesn't give anyone the license to kill me. There are also some women who wish to be challenged, I think it's a little weird request or an expression. Some *****es like to express themselves proudly by saying "I don't read a wall of text", so I used to take my time when I could to read those posts, kind members search for posts with no replies, all of these are free expressions. Ahh, and I've seen people gossiping about other members, I could tell who it was, and one of them was a guy. He had a pretentious 'update', maybe he was a SJW.

I cannot like everyone in this forum, and there are no reason to fear random people. I hate people agreeing with me in the exact same way, because it's redundant. Others get so excited about 'I got your back because you're woman' post, and they are not even close. Someday, I'll learn more about behaviorism, you can check the trend on the main site, their therapists braggin is really something. I'm not opposing for what other people do, this is a bit like this Zen attitude the crazy woman from my first post has been influencing me with, only smart people have some use to me.

You can try to use some jargons like feminists do in your post, in gen-pop forums, and try not to say anything to young and stupid types, and see what happens. It's entirely possible that you can formulate your post for male audiences with your words, have you noticed a car buff social circle thing on the main forum page? Not many women are into more specific area of car engineering, but they don't care much, do they?

Do you want to have an equal representation of men and women in PCF? I guess not and that's natural. You're anti-natural. So your complaining kinda lacks consistency. Good Luck.

Sorry, Tak but, I don't feel like reading all of that.
Now that you guys mention it it does kind of seem like this is a female-dominated forum and you really do have to be careful what you say around here and how much info you release compared to a lot of other forums online.
A female friend who got disgusted and left this forum told me about a forum called Male Survivor and said that the guys there were really supportive of each other. I still haven't checked it out yet because I've been too busy with other things but, I may give it a look soon.

As you had believed yourself, I also agree that you were hammered before making this thread. (I'm just joking.)

We are in a psych community. I've been in many psych communities and psych wards where women are usually dominant within them. but then again, how are you confirming gender, especially online?

There are some who believe men belittle their own mental health issues or that professionals belittle men's mental health issues. I cant confirm this. but I do know that there are men with mental health issues. Even if it's a small community, it still exist and I'm thankful for it.

I am helping my daughter right now on her research paper. She chose the topic " Is the "boys dont cry"/ "man up" culture detrimental to the mental health of men?"
I have a BA in Eng Lit so she came to the right person. . I have been helping her find some solid articles to help her have diverse sources and I came upon a few articles that talk about how men should act like "P**sies" (pardon me, its relevant to this post, not how I talk) and how men should never be considered weak or "feminine" by having feelings. She wanted to take a stab at the toxic masculinity culture from the angle of men. Its all been very interesting. Once thing I was reading last night and it applies in particular to men of color is that the culture of "man up", "dont be a wimp" really influences when and if men seek mental health treatment. The ideals and norms of being "a man" can actually prevent men from being comfortable with getting in touch with their feelings and because of that they fear getting help. I wont get into the use of female slang to describe men being used by men to each other as a way to denigrate each other.

In particular due to blatant and subversive racisim, men of color are sometimes distrustful of the medical community because of a history of having their health and wellbeings not taken seriously or downplayed. So in many instances mental health treatment is even more likely to be avoided by men of color. I dont know if this topic is interesting to other men in this thread and I know I am a woman but I am really enjoying the topic with her. I can only hope it can be discussed without getting into the parts of male-centric cultures and female slang/disparity because that is a separate topic.

"Are males less likely to seek another males advise ?"

I will be honest that I've been a bit hesitant to heed the advice of others. Then again, I get advice mostly from females. And I trust advice from males more than advice from females.

But seeking advice isn't the only reason to join a mental health community. In fact, most mental health communities encourage members to get advice from mental health professionals. I, myself, joined here to connect with men like me; not necessarily to get advice.