Are Men Obsolete?

Takeshi · Apr 10, 2018 at 11:08 AM

“All great ideas are dangerous.” ― Oscar Wilde

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Canadian Association for Equality
On February 6, 2014, CAFE invited YouTube sensation, Karen Straughan, a Canadian human rights activist, blogger and writer, to speak at the launch of the Ryerson-based Men's Issues Awareness Society. Topics covered: male suicide epidemic and violence, lack of attention to men's physical and mental health, declining male university enrollment, parental alienation against fathers, and misandry in popular culture.

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On Gender empathy gap (transcribed from the video)

We don't feel sympathy for men in any kind of issue that they're having with women and or when compared to women. It's probably the primary thing that drives most men's problems in society today.

R v Elliott @wikipedia

I don't know what to say. I just want the readers to know that a lot of men have been suffering, and if you didn't pay attention to these news, you'd be paying a big price with human lives.

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Here are the major double standards that men want rectified:

The Paper Abortion for Men. - If deciding not to be a parent after the act of sex is okay for women, then it's okay for men too; equal is equal.

Equal Parenting Laws. - 50% automatic custody except in extreme cases. You both made your bed, lay in it TOGETHER.

Eliminating or forcing women to sign up for the draft.

Gender Equal Sentencing Laws

Gender Equal Funding Laws

Gender Equal Physical Requirements Laws - The requirements are what they are because you have to be able to pull an average 175lb person out of an inferno, and little 110 pound Patricia can't. It's not sexism, it's physical reality.

Elimination of VAWA(The Violence Against Women Act of 1994) for it's violation of men's 14th Amendment Rights.

Elimination of the pay gap myth. - No business would EVER hire men if this was true so as to maximize profits. The formula for determining the "77 cents" myth is laughably simplistic and doesn't take into account the different decisions men and women make.

Gender Equal Divorce Laws and Enforcement

Anonymity for the Accused Laws - Men are simply RUINED by the mere accusation of any sexual offense, convicted or not. Yet, accusers, who are mostly women are anonymous, but the accused who are mostly men are immediately revealed to the public. Disgusting. We must live in fear of a woman merely POINTING at us and uttering some syllables

Men's Studies courses in all Universities, or the Elmination of Women's Studies

Men's Domestic Violence and Abuse Shelters

Right to Genital Integrity for Male Babies.

Stop medicating boys in schools.

Stop painting all men as potential rapists/child molesters. - "Teach men not to rape." assumes that men are rapists by default. It would be like, "Teach women not to be golddiggers." or "Teach women not to falsely accuse men." It's the premise of the statement that's sexist, not the goal which is noble: To stop rape/golddiggin/false accusations.

These are not all the double standards, but they're the major ones. The others are minor by comparison and can be dealt with later.

The above quote is something I copied from reddit.

Paper abortion

I'm still new to this men's right issues, it's a lot to absorb. If anyone out there are willing to learn or have already been educating themselves on this topic, please share your stories here.

Mike_J · Apr 16, 2018 at 02:35 PM

You forgot about Alimony, a stay at home mom who get's divorced she gets big $$ but a stay at home dad is told to get a job.

ArchieAus · Apr 18, 2018 at 02:07 PM

If you listen to the loud , drum banging, feminist extremist groups then yes they are . Thankfully those groups don't represent the majority of women in the world . Like most radical groups their call for equality is actually a call for domination , and like other extremist groups , you ignore the nutters and let them get on with their sad insignificant existence .

Talthybius · Apr 21, 2018 at 05:53 AM

Posts like this don't help a honest debate about male vs females.

yagr · Apr 24, 2018 at 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Talthybius

Posts like this don't help a honest debate about male vs females.

Why is that?

Medusax · Apr 25, 2018 at 08:09 PM

No. Men are not obsolete.

Jun 08, 2018 at 11:02 AM

Not that men are more obsolete, but rather, that the market is looking to find more potential in women, especially those who would do nothing all day
Nothing personal. Hah, maybe the time has come for men to rest a bit

ArchieAus · Jun 15, 2018 at 06:06 PM

Not obsolete , but like females , I see them changing to suit a new environment in the future . Once upon a time the general path for a male was to be born , go to school , then get a job and have some fun with friends , meet a girl and fall in love , knuckle down A the job focusing on making more money to support the family . Work 50 years at that putting the needs of the family first and then hopefully retire , quite worn out but with the satisfaction that they have fulfilled their role .
With relationships changing the male may evolve to be more selfish and focussed on what they want out of there own life .
So end result , with females quite rightly wanting to be more independent and wanting control of their lives , eventually the male role will change and they won't be so keen on signing up for family life .
I still think that if you sweep away the more vocal views on relationships you will still find a core of our society who still feel comfortable with traditional roles of the male and female so it will be a while before there is a total change to roles .

redCanine3669 · Feb 07, 2019 at 12:24 PM

obsolete means no longer produced or used, defined by Google, I think. so men are not obsolete: they are still being produced from the womb. As for being used, I wouldn't mind if I wasn't being used like a puppet.

redCanine3669 · Feb 15, 2019 at 01:47 PM

Takeshi, I just realized that a lot of those things are sex or marriage related. It might be targeting men, but men can also avoid those issue by staying away from sexual or marital situations. I guess I'm lucky, as I haven't had sex or married before.

As for women being drafted, I don't quite support the idea of men being drafted, but I also don't support the idea of women being drafted. Women in the army could be impregnated on the battlefield, which could lead to biological warfare and moral issues. In my religion, women stayed and took care of the homeland while the men fought; so if both women and men were drafted, then nobody would really be around to protect the homeland and children would be vulnerable.

LifelongLoner · Feb 16, 2019 at 08:05 AM

I have been treated so badly by modern feminists that I no longer want female friends. The abuse is unrelenting and they really can't do anything, ANYTHING better than men. They are petty and too emotionally driven. Frankly, the patrimony they are seeking to destroy was a much, much better world for everyone. There is no law that says a woman has to get married and start a family. I hope that laws protecting men's rights are passed because they are really needed.

redCanine3669 · Feb 16, 2019 at 10:50 AM

"There is no law that says a woman has to get married and start a family."

I agree with that.

continuosly blue · Feb 18, 2019 at 07:54 AM

Men are not obsolete........it’s just that radical feminists think they are just as equal to men in ways that are just not true. They are the ones who are destroying the nucleus of the family which holds civilization together.
Raising a family and taking care of children is probably one if not the hardest job in the world. The feminists have trivialized that role. We all have “ roles” to playin life. People in general, men and women , make the false assumption that we are all equal. Maybe as basic human beings , but that’s where it ends. We are not all equal. That’s reality. I don’t like seeing any human being mistreated.
Male or female. Want to end here with this statement, “ women already rule the world , and they know it. “

redCanine3669 · Feb 18, 2019 at 08:16 AM

I've been seeing less gender-wise to the point where I could probably say that both men and women are obsolete. they can be seen as empty gender labels. I've been a virgin since birth and not dated before. I'm at a point in my life where I can say that I don't think I need the services of a woman. I might need human resources, but I don't think the gender of that human matters.

redCanine3669 · Feb 18, 2019 at 12:26 PM

"Raising a family and taking care of children is probably one if not the hardest job in the world."

hardest job, eh? every day, I'm more and more grateful for being a virgin, it seems.

Feb 19, 2019 at 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Talthybius

Posts like this don't help a honest debate about male vs females.

A debate regarding what exactly?

redCanine3669 · 03:04 PM

there wasn't much of a debate. sometimes women post in this subforum, even though they aren't suppose to. just ignore their posts.

Bill3 · Feb 20, 2019 at 12:26 PM

The model of men as strong, protective, caring, and affirming will never be obsolete.

redCanine3669 · Feb 20, 2019 at 01:24 PM

I don't know much about caring. I usually only care for those who care for me. there's no point in caring for those who spit on me, eh?

Bill3 · Feb 20, 2019 at 01:57 PM

Right: caring about family, friends, those close.

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Mike_J Infamous Vampire Duck Community Liaison Member Since Dec 2009 Location: Mid West Posts: 12,742 (SuperPoster!) 14 961 hugs given	Apr 16, 2018 at 02:35 PM #2 You forgot about Alimony, a stay at home mom who get's divorced she gets big $$ but a stay at home dad is told to get a job. __________________ “If we could change ourselves, the tendencies in the world would also change. As a man changes his own nature, so does the attitude of the world change towards him. ... We need not wait to see what others do.” Gandhi
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ArchieAus Member Member Since Sep 2017 Location: Western Australia Posts: 284 7	Apr 18, 2018 at 02:07 PM #3 If you listen to the loud , drum banging, feminist extremist groups then yes they are . Thankfully those groups don't represent the majority of women in the world . Like most radical groups their call for equality is actually a call for domination , and like other extremist groups , you ignore the nutters and let them get on with their sad insignificant existence .
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Talthybius Veteran Member Member Since Mar 2016 Location: Europe Posts: 565 8	Apr 21, 2018 at 05:53 AM #4 Posts like this don't help a honest debate about male vs females.
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Medusax Grand Member Member Since Jan 2017 Location: Arkansas Posts: 775 7 331 hugs given	Apr 25, 2018 at 08:09 PM #6 No. Men are not obsolete. __________________ I go about my own business, and keep my mind on myself and my life. I expect the same courtesy from the rest of the world.
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Anonymous50987 Guest Posts: n/a	Jun 08, 2018 at 11:02 AM #7 Not that men are more obsolete, but rather, that the market is looking to find more potential in women, especially those who would do nothing all day Nothing personal. Hah, maybe the time has come for men to rest a bit
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Bill3 Legendary Member Since Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 10,948 15 24.1k hugs given	Feb 20, 2019 at 12:26 PM #18 The model of men as strong, protective, caring, and affirming will never be obsolete.
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Bill3 Legendary Member Since Mar 2009 Location: USA Posts: 10,948 15 24.1k hugs given	Feb 20, 2019 at 01:57 PM #20 Right: caring about family, friends, those close.
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