So what does it take to become a mod or admin?

I feel a bit like Mellors and DSF in a way. BUT I will say that I have kept quiet about it cause for

1. He seems supportive.
2You cant judge the book by the cover. Even if you dont trust what may
be inside.
3. I know that I hate when people dont/wont give me a chance when I
really want/need to do something. This comes from issues I have
with rejection though.
4 And LOL I like the name Ben hehehehehe

I know and understand the decision was quick . But wouldnt we want to
be given a chance?

Thanks,
Beth7

i am not saying you should always "hire from within" wi even i know that doesnt make good business sense, i am saying if you do "employ" a virtual unknown there should be a period of time where they are not in the top spot, moderator for example for a period of time to see how they adjust, and see if they are right for the job, i know there is a 1 year "expiry" on the possition of admin, but is this a business or personal thing?

Hi folks,

I would like to add something here, although I'm usually very wary about any kind of politics - not my thing.

My feeling is that having two people jobshare the admin is a good idea. This shows us just what a responsibility it was for Ozzie to be the sole admin on such a big site as PC, I noted how much reading she had to do, and how many welcome posts she put up to new members. Well done Ozzie, and welcome back to you!

Also I would like to say that I find value in all the posts, and the most helpful posts don't necessarily come form a mod or from admin, they come from the people who are prepared to open up and share the stuff we have to deal with. There is so much experience and wisdom here at PC, and it is made up by the members, every last one of us. That's my view. We are all volunteer workers here, and long may we continue IMHO.

Cheers, M

Umm, I've never preannounced such decisions. So this time is no different. I will always choose administrators privately.

I didn't advertise in the blog for administrators; you'll have to go read the entry yourself to see that. Since it's all a part of the same site, it's incumbent for you -- if you're so interested and inclined -- to read the blog regularly. The entry was a far more general entry about seeking volunteers for help on the site.

These positions aren't about "giving members a chance," and perhaps that's the biggest misnomer here. Becoming a moderator or administrator isn't just a "title" for people here. It involves a daily effort, increased responsibility, and a lot more time on the site. You don't earn a chance to become one, and it's not about people being more "deserving" than another.

If you'd like to nominate yourself or another member to become a moderator, drop me or any moderator a PM and we'll discuss it on the team. But be forewarned, not everyone we hear from is appropriate for the position. And, no, at this time, there are no guidelines for how to become a moderator.

DocJohn

Sorry Doc , I was just trying to show fairness.

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this is the post in question from your blog doc, who in here fits that criteria? and if they dont fit the criteria were they considered?, you say it has nowt to do with your position on picking the current admin, i think it had everything to do with your decision, you asked for qualified medically trained or training people, not non medical open to all, and what is a referal from you going to do for a layperson?

what qualifications do you need to become a admin within a week of being a mod?, post 100 + times in a week?

Like you stated you make the decisions and are accountable to noone so no need to answer, let the other members read what I have read and let them make there own mind up.

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Thank you ((((((((((Myzen)))))))))))) I resigned my position as admin. because I no longer felt I could work with the "team". When I left rather quickly it placed a huge burden on John to find people in a hurry to fill the position.

In my opinion, it is very important for members to choose carefully who they are going to trust. I agree with your statement Myzen that members frequently make the posts that are most beneficial to us.

I also believe that threads of this nature are extremely helpful to the membership. JustBen, the only team member that I haven't worked with is imo most deserving of the opportunity to be a leader here. I look forward to getting to know him. He shines like a light among the clouds.

drunksunflower, are you confusing the role of moderators and administrators?

i think administrators are more technical jobs. they judge the overall content of the site, ensuring the site remains cohesive. i don't believe administrators need to post numerous posts to dominate every forum here. i think admins oversee moderators (admins don't do the moderating).

i think moderators should have more of a presence on whichever forum he/she is responsible for. the moderators are responsible for maintaining the continuity of each individual forum.

i don't know how anyone could handle being either a moderator or admin. MUCH RESPECT TO YOU ALL!!!!!

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Like you stated you make the decisions and are accountable to noone so no need to answer, let the other members read what I have read and let them make there own mind up.

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Reading what you have posted, I had a couple of thoughts...I see nothing in Doc John's blog advertisement that suggests he was looking for an administrator. Nor does it say anything about medical training, from what I read in what you posted. Finally, I don't see anything in it that suggests that Doc John wouldn't also consider members volunteering to help with site tasks, as some already do by contributing to the newsletter, for example.

I can hear that you are upset with this decision and/or the way it was made, but I'm not sure I understand why.

gg

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funny how after posting this a member went from mod to admin within a week, dont get me wrong i think ben is doing great, 100 posts in a week must be exhausting, qudos to ben for stepping up.

i just dont understand the reasoning for the docs actions, if he was not "recruiting" (sp) mods or admin, then why post this in is blog, and if he was why didnt he post it in the forums where everyone would see it?

I would like to say that however JustBen came to be in his new role (and I neither know nor care), that his prompt and thoughtful responses here have earned my respect. He has taken the time to address everyone's emotional and practical concerns.

It seems to me that what's under scrutiny right now is NOT JustBen, but rather DocJohn. And honestly, this is DocJohn's board -- he funds and maintains it -- so while it's fine that we share our opinions about how he runs, it, I hope this isn't turning into a lynching thread because he, out of courtesy, only needs to LISTEN to our opinions but has absolutely no obligation to act on or even respond to them.

Those are my thoughts,
LMo

that is all i am asking Lmo "that he listens to our opinons" next time, something he did not do or consider this time.

To clarify, Mellors, do you mean that you wanted him to solicit opinions before he made a decision, or to take into consideration our opinions NOW?

When choosing an administrator, I really don't think it's up to the nuts to run the nut house. DocJ made his decision. It's a good one.

WI Fighter,

your post made me laugh out loud. Its a good reply you made.

All the girls

i thinks its very important that we use this thread to get out our feelings and opinions.....the whole issue of ozzie leaving as administrator was a shock to all our systems and the quick appointment of new administrators i believe came as another shock..mellors, i for one feel very much as you do but the bottom line is.the docs gonna do as he thinks fit....yes we all know kimmy and i believe she will strive to do a good job and yes most of us don't know ben much at all but i for one still have tremedous trust in ozzie and if you will read her post in this thread...she gives ben her stamp of approval and so after reading that..i now would like to congratulate both kim and ben on their new positions and wish them luck

Thanks for the vote of confidence, everyone. I'm going to do my best to earn it.

i am being realistic Lmo, i know the doc is not going to change his mind over his choice of admin, all be it the wrong approach he took, we have to live with that, all of us, all i am saying is it should have been open to all of us and this time it wasnt, it was a closed decision, premeditated if you will on the doc side, that is what i am disagreeing with, i know ben is a good candidate for the job, i just dont agree with the methods that the doc used to get him to that position. i think the doc should have been more open, but hey who cares it it is only my opinion.

Well, I think a LOT of people care about your opinion, Mellors. You have quite a fan club here.

Well, what's done is done. Hopefully everybody feels better now that they've had a chance to voice their opinions.

Umm, if I didn't care, I wouldn't be sitting here, reading your opinion (which you've stated a couple of times now), and keep replying to your opinion.

All good decisions, I hope, are premeditated. That means someone has thought about it. Yes, good. Was it "closed?" Well, yes, it always is. Why? Because these are the people I, first and foremost, need to trust. Why? Because these individuals act as my eyes and ears, and their judgment has to reflect my own values and judgment.

So while you may like more transparency into the process in the future, and I hear you about that, I'm not sure more transparency is going to change what I need to do in order to choose people I believe are going to be right for the position. There will never be a "vote" for this position, sorry.

DocJohn

How could Doc put a decision in our hands when we don't even know what all the job entails? There are so many illnesses on this board, there's going to be somebody who's unhappy with the decision no matter what.

This sort of a decision should NOT be up to the forum members, it just shouldn't.

You seem to have pretty strong feelings about this. Is there someone that you think would have been a better recommendation?

i hear you doc, but the illusion of member input is always a good thing, even if it comes to nowt, it still makes us feel involved.
try us next time and give us a say/chance.

i will stop now doc, i dont want to be kicked.

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When choosing an administrator, I really don't think it's up to the nuts to run the nut house. DocJ made his decision. It's a good one.

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Who the HELL are you calling nuts?

That's probably the stupidest post I have ever seen in here

I have to agree with wi_fighter on this one. This sort of decision SHOULD NOT be up to the members..... And I don't think wi is calling anyone nuts. Hello, have we forgotten that this is a "mental health" forum?? We all have issues. The owner of this site has the responsibility to make good decisions as to who he feels are best suited to be admins or mods...