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![]() Open Eyes, Rohag, Rose76, Thomas in Ohio
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goodness, byz, a long article but filled with plausible theory. a few thoughts re myself:
one i find brainstorming with others leads to better results thru reasoning. used this in my business career. two relying on my own individual reasoning to weigh out all the facts as i see them. pros and cons. by doing this i come to a decision. the way i am comfortable with the final decision is i ask myself am i willing to accept the outcome, good or bad. if yes, i proceed to act. of course i realize there is bias in my mind regardless. three i do find in a conversation two things happen. if i am seeking their opinion i find it useful to see the other side or their thoughts. it helps me weigh out the truth as i see it knowing i may be missing something i need to consider. the other, i find most times in a conversation where there are opposing viewpoints i fall into the trap of being argumentative. when a member of a debating club i was especially argumentative on an intellectual scale. funny thing tho watching a debate i find both sides make sense as in truth. ![]() enough about me. very good, thought provoking article.
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It is perhaps somewhat ironic that the authors, in fact, use reasoning to point out that humans are bad using reasoning to come to rational conclusions.
I guess by their own contention their own argument is likely incorrect, but self-serving?
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I think I should immediately disagree with the author's contention in order to make it better - as in "more correct".
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I often am amused how frequently some so unwittingly provide evidence of the crux of the premise being put forth.
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Any argument provides evidence of the theory. In that sense it's brilliant.
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I still prefer existentialism and post-modernism. You can argue with those, but in the end it does not really matter.
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Very interesting Byz, are you in agreement with this article?
As I understand it, yes we have our own individual reasoning. And we have our own individual intuition. And if we make decisions just based on that we may not see the whole perspective of a situation. I personally do have my own strong reasoning skills along with strong intuition, however I do like to make sure that my perception is not in someway incorrect. I strongly feel that by working in a group verses just making decisions and judgements based on my own personal reasoning and intuition is a better way of making sure that my perception of any given situation is correct. Now this word perception is not really included within this article and it is very significant. The way to gain in the power of existentialism is to make sure that our own perceptions are not getting in the way of progress. I have found this extremely useful myself. As humans we grow and develope in different situations, especially today. Therefore we may have perceptions that can be harmful to us, we may have reasoning and intuition that revolves around a very distorted perception. By engaging within a group of individuals who have different perceptions of behaviors and even mental illnesses, we can better look at our own perception and come to a better understanding about the issue. Once we look at the different possible perspectives we can better use our reasoning and intuitive skills to move forward and make better decisions. So yes, making decisions on our own can be harmful. The real intelligence lies within allowing ourselves to veiw other perceptions and have the courage to listen and consider these different perspectives. It is a way to gain and make much better decisions and actions. For those who wish to improve their psycological conditions and healing, it can be very benificial. I appreciated the last thread as I got to view the different ideas and perceptions in the different posts last night. In opening my mind up, well, I saw other opinions that really helped inprove my own perceptions. And I also saw similar perceptions as my own helping me to also realize that I was not alone in my perceptions. Open Eyes |
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Whether the premise of the article truly has merit remains to be seen. Until the critiques are in and the advocates for and against have had a go at it, we likely should reserve judgment about the efficacy of the theory. |
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Seems to have been written by a bunch of men?
![]() I reason to figure out what I think is best for me, at the moment. Whether someone else thinks it's the best for me or whether I will think it is the best for me next week, is beside the point. I can't think how my trying to figure out what I should say/do would be to win an argument; I try not to argue with myself very much.
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Putting the chauvinism aside, Perna, I think the context of the article is different from what you discuss. Of course a solipsist would not be concerned with testing the efficaciousness of another's thought process. |
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Thanks Byz,
Yes intrigueing and something to ponder. LOL Perna, yes, can't help wondering if any women were included in this thought process. LOL And the merit of this article, if women are added with their interpretation may never come to a conclusion. And I can't help but chuckle with that thought. LOL arguing with oneself can be confusing as well perna. Often leading to no decision making at all, so to some degree another opinion can be useful at the very least as we can debate ourselves into oblivian. Again Byz thank you for putting different ideas up as it is really nice to see the thoughts and opinions of others. Something different to ponder other than our day to day stuggles with whatever we are dealing with. Even to allow for a chuckle is nice, thank you perna. To be honest, I am in need of both right now as I have been very tangled and overwhelmed at the moment. So thanks Byz, I don't think you realize how nice it is to ponder about something else, thanks. Open Eyes Last edited by Open Eyes; Jun 06, 2011 at 11:28 AM. |
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