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Old Jan 11, 2007, 12:35 AM
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((((((((((((((( Pat & family ))))))))))))))

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 11:38 AM
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thank you so much.........grrrrrrrrr. very little sleep last night. mind won't be still.............
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 11:43 AM
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i have only just seen this post! can you believe it! why did i not see it before...

you and your family are in my thoughts. hope all turns out ok. it must be horrible for him to have to deal with such traumatic events. he is in my thoughts, as are you, your daughter and the rest of the family.

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Old Jan 11, 2007, 01:06 PM
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thank you, simon. it hardly seems fair that you can risk your life in another country and then be totally ignored when you return home and need help dealing with what you had to do while at "war"....i'm really struggling with some pretty hard feelings right now about the lack of help for him and his unit.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 03:07 PM
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it is like vietnam all over again unfortunately. my prayers and thoughts are with you and your family
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 05:47 PM
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http://vietnamresearch.com/agento/ptsd.html This link gives information on receiving benefits etc for PTSD. The incidence of PTSD for soldiers serving more than one term in Iraq is higher than the "norm" it seems.

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Unfortunately, the suicide rate for these soldiers is twice that of those who served only in Afganistan, for instance. We Need Some Help........
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 06:42 PM
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thanks for the link. jennie gave me several links a few weeks ago. this escalated before Christmas.

i just talked to my daughter and things are "calmer" now.they are seeking all of the help that the base affords them.

i have a nephew-in-law who is on total psychiatric disability from Vietnam. he was a "sharpshooter"..... We Need Some Help........ the good ole country boys were heavily used in Vietnam due to their hunting backgrounds. it's disgusting.

thanks, again........xoxoxo pat
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 06:46 PM
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and they were sooooooo young! my offer still stands Pat. just let me know hon.
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Old Jan 11, 2007, 07:43 PM
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Oh Pat,
I just saw this post. I don't know why I didn't see it before.
Yep, I agree with Bebop, Vietnam all over again.
It's a tragedy that our armed troups are being offered more help when they return.
I pray for you and your family and all the troops still over there.
Wishing you and family all the best.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:28 AM
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thanks.......another big episode last night. his mind is on "hair trigger" right now........no sleep for me.....probably none for them...........pat
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:44 AM
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I am so sorry to hear about all of this... I am thinking about you and your family!
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 11:45 AM
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Well, I am itching to add a political comment, but this is not the place, not the place, not the place. I am so sorry for your sil, Pat.
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 08:30 PM
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i know................i want to scream.......

thanks, everyone, this means so much to me and my family. they are iced in and have no electricity right now. all the television stations are out.......and it's cold....but things are calmer.......xoxoxo pat
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 09:53 PM
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Pat is he aware that things are different with him? do you think he is willing to check into the psych unit at the VA? is he still in the army?
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:05 PM
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he's pretty much in denial.......in fact, my daughter checked herself into a facility for three days to get her head straight. i've talked and talked to him, his dad has talked to him and we're at our wits end right now. there's so much pain there and until he gets help, i don't know what we can do.

i just got a phone call and her dog, Boo, is dying tonight. he's 12 and been with her through most of her ups and downs. so......that is adding to the stress big time. he's her last link to a portion of her life that he helped her get through.

i have to work this weekend (on call), so i can't go up to be with them. it's too late to trade with anyone.

please keep Colleen and Boo in your prayers and thoughts tonight. he was a really good dog/friend/companion.......xoxoxo
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:22 PM
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Old Jan 12, 2007, 10:57 PM
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I don't know what to say but I'm keeping you and your familly close to my heart!

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Old Jan 13, 2007, 10:28 AM
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thanks, i should hear from Colleen soon or either while i'm out with a patient.

i was truly exhausted last night.....i just woke up.... We Need Some Help........

thanks, everyone........xoxoxo pat
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 10:30 AM
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 06:06 PM
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I wish you and your family the best.

When I re-deployed (came back to the U.S.) they had us all debriefed and part of it included some psychological questioning. But when you get to that point, I don't think anyone would ever admit to having any problems.

The last thing you want to do is become a "holdover" and not get to go home. They might ship you somewhere safe, like Germany, to get treated...but it would still suck to not get to go home.

I hope he can get the help he needs.
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 07:10 PM
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thanks, everyone......

a phone call just came. they are trying to get through the ice to the veterinarian's office..... We Need Some Help........
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 08:11 PM
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I'm just now reading your posts and I am so sorry your son-in-law and your family and you are going through such a scary time! You are all in my thoughts and here's my hand for all the holding you want.

I"m so sorry for all he has suffered there and his continued suffering now. I truly hope they receive many hands back to theirs they are reaching out with. They deserve all the help and support they want and need.

(((((Pat, Colleen, Boo, SIL, baby, and all their caregivers)))))

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Old Jan 13, 2007, 08:29 PM
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It upsets me that these governments dont realise the damage caused to the soldiers that fight THEIR wars for them. sometmes i wish these politicians, like Blair and Bush would fight in the war themselves, just to see what its really like. it may make them think twice before going into war next time! i dont want to get political, as 1: it isnt me, i hate politics, and 2:it gets me so annoyed.

i will say it again pat, i hope you, and your family get through this ok. with you by his side, i am sure he will be fine eventually.

stay strong pat, and im still thinking alot of you and your family.

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Old Jan 13, 2007, 09:30 PM
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my SIL just called me to tell me that Boo's spirit has departed for Rainbow Bridge and we had a long, long talk. i feel so much better now. he asked me a lot of questions and has decided to also seek independent help. he is being very supportive of Colleen, in her grief for Boo, and asked a lot of questions about their history...before he knew them........i feel better than i've felt in weeks about their situation......

thank you all, dear friends, you've truly helped me more than you can ever know..........i'll keep you updated.........love, pat
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Old Jan 13, 2007, 11:01 PM
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